usmcjdking wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »MDK is fine. It very much has a place in just about any group comp. S&B/S&B HA retardproof MDK is not strong in a large group though because you can't abuse the vengeance passive (pretty much your source of damage as HA MDK) very easily as conga lining doesn't lend to a MDKs strength who arguably does not want to srprint around spamming talons.
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A large amount of S&B MDK damage comes from vengeance passive providing you artificially high crit rates. Conga line raids mean you aren't blocking which means you aren't getting vengeance passive. Because you aren't getting vengeance, your damage falls off like a sack of bricks. Because your artificial crit steroid has disappeared, your damage is now awful. So what does the standard HA Mag DK offer to a raid? Just about nothing.
S&B MDK is not designed for kiting. The group meta is kite until ult. This does not mean Mag DK is weak because it is still incredibly strong in small groups and even solo.