PC Now Has a Global Auction House

sirinsidiator

kargen27 wrote: »

Drachenfier wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

This better be legit, would be great to see the trade guilds lose their control over us.

You are quite mistaken. If we ever got a global auction house built into the game, you can be sure that trading guilds will have absolute control over the prices unlike how it works right now.

Yea, no. They wouldn't be able to keep up with the supply.

Maybe not on fish and Ta. The more rare the item though and the easier it is for just three or four people to control the price.

Exactly. It is not about the cheap stuff with infinite supply. You can be sure that prices on nirncrux, golden tempers, motifs, recipes, rare jewelry, sought-after equipment etc. would be several times of what they are now...

faerigirl

sirinsidiator wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Drachenfier wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

This better be legit, would be great to see the trade guilds lose their control over us.

You are quite mistaken. If we ever got a global auction house built into the game, you can be sure that trading guilds will have absolute control over the prices unlike how it works right now.

Yea, no. They wouldn't be able to keep up with the supply.

Maybe not on fish and Ta. The more rare the item though and the easier it is for just three or four people to control the price.

Exactly. It is not about the cheap stuff with infinite supply. You can be sure that prices on nirncrux, golden tempers, motifs, recipes, rare jewelry, sought-after equipment etc. would be several times of what they are now...

Only if people paid those prices.

Cadbury

faerigirl wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Drachenfier wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

This better be legit, would be great to see the trade guilds lose their control over us.

You are quite mistaken. If we ever got a global auction house built into the game, you can be sure that trading guilds will have absolute control over the prices unlike how it works right now.

Yea, no. They wouldn't be able to keep up with the supply.

Maybe not on fish and Ta. The more rare the item though and the easier it is for just three or four people to control the price.

Exactly. It is not about the cheap stuff with infinite supply. You can be sure that prices on nirncrux, golden tempers, motifs, recipes, rare jewelry, sought-after equipment etc. would be several times of what they are now...

Only if people paid those prices.

Which they would.

Xvorg

It would be interesting to know if ZoS supports the idea of an addon working as an auction house... maybe Miat should be able to create a Baandari auction house

faerigirl

Cadbury wrote: »

faerigirl wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Drachenfier wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

This better be legit, would be great to see the trade guilds lose their control over us.

You are quite mistaken. If we ever got a global auction house built into the game, you can be sure that trading guilds will have absolute control over the prices unlike how it works right now.

Yea, no. They wouldn't be able to keep up with the supply.

Maybe not on fish and Ta. The more rare the item though and the easier it is for just three or four people to control the price.

Exactly. It is not about the cheap stuff with infinite supply. You can be sure that prices on nirncrux, golden tempers, motifs, recipes, rare jewelry, sought-after equipment etc. would be several times of what they are now...

Only if people paid those prices.

Which they would.

Then the price would increase naturally, irrespective of the mode which it was being sold.

idk

Betheny wrote: »

The most telling thing is how much we were hoping this would work...shows how bad the current trade system is.

Considering the number of players who frequent the forums and the small number that have posted in this thread it merely says some players would like something different.

faerigirl

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

The most telling thing is how much we were hoping this would work...shows how bad the current trade system is.

Considering the number of players who frequent the forums and the small number that have posted in this thread it merely says some players would like something different.

I think you are right.

I really don't think that people would be too fussed over not having a global AH if the traders had better search abilities.

One of the main frustrations, IMO of course, is that TTC doesn't work very well (slow to update) and you go to some far flung trader just to find out the item you wanted is gone.

If we could have the traders remain but have the functionality of the addon I don't think we would see another 'AH" thread.

Search, purchase and COD it to buyer all from the bank (or wherever, you guys think of something). Perfect.

Stormshaper

All potential issues with this addon aside, just want to say thanks to the individual(s) responsible for both Master Merchant and Tamriel Trade Centre. I use and have come to heavily rely on both of them a lot.

FWSWBN

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

Anyway, someone at esuoi posted the following links:
https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/f0a0c211f9daccffde4a441a606f7ed02d4ce7b0953b5fe0514eb0335a39e8d6/analysis/

https://www.virustotal.com/de/file/5af028a97377609e58e88a1115dd8d76e3ac873c24ac66b558bd3a26cd28f485/analysis/1500628331/

So some virus scanners consider these files malicious. It might be a false positive. Anyway, at the current moment I personally wouldn't touch this addon.

I post it
Allways check .exe files in such container.....many times they false postive sometimes not...
Also the Author is really new to esoui and uploaded only one addon....so....I am personally carefull.

Sigtric

Betheny wrote: »

Still not ready to burn the witch, really seems like he went to a massive amount of effort to put thing together if it was going to be found out as dodgy. Maybe he'll come back and clear it all up yet.

For people looking to spread malware for their own gains, it is not really /that/ much effort if you know what you are doing. This would have been a great way for a bad person to gain access to a lot of people's ESO accounts had they used the exe to push a keylogger, and a great way to do even more harm in other areas had they been so inclined.

That's how a lot of virus/malware/ransomware gets spread, take advantage of folks who think they are being helped.

silvereyes

Xvorg wrote: »

It would be interesting to know if ZoS supports the idea of an addon working as an auction house... maybe Miat should be able to create a Baandari auction house

Well, this is what the TOS say (emphasis mine):

You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of "bots", "speed hacks", "deep-link", "page-scrape", "robot", "spider", algorithms or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, "mirroring") the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax.

If ZOS wanted to crack down on third-party auction house services like TTC and this new Nirn auction house, all they would need to do is reference the above TOS clause. But the fact that the clause exists isn't really enough to tell us how ZOS feels about these services. It's such a broad clause that it's effectively a blank check for ZOS to do whatever they want to censor people.

My guess is that while ZOS might not actively endorse such services, it would be too much hassle to send out cease and desist letters to shut them down.

idk

faerigirl wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

The most telling thing is how much we were hoping this would work...shows how bad the current trade system is.

Considering the number of players who frequent the forums and the small number that have posted in this thread it merely says some players would like something different.

I think you are right.

I really don't think that people would be too fussed over not having a global AH if the traders had better search abilities.

One of the main frustrations, IMO of course, is that TTC doesn't work very well (slow to update) and you go to some far flung trader just to find out the item you wanted is gone.

If we could have the traders remain but have the functionality of the addon I don't think we would see another 'AH" thread.

Search, purchase and COD it to buyer all from the bank (or wherever, you guys think of something). Perfect.

The addon was for player to player sales. Not the traditional by system. Really think someone is going to wait for you to come online or finish that raid (your raid team is certainly not going to wait on you to send the CoD if they are trying for a score).

It's also CoD. Trolls will come out and tie up some players goods for a few days until the mail is sent back to the sender.

timidobserver

Some legit/trusted author should steal this idea. I would prefer it over being limited by traders.

Tandor

faerigirl wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

The most telling thing is how much we were hoping this would work...shows how bad the current trade system is.

Considering the number of players who frequent the forums and the small number that have posted in this thread it merely says some players would like something different.

I think you are right.

I really don't think that people would be too fussed over not having a global AH if the traders had better search abilities.

One of the main frustrations, IMO of course, is that TTC doesn't work very well (slow to update) and you go to some far flung trader just to find out the item you wanted is gone.

If we could have the traders remain but have the functionality of the addon I don't think we would see another 'AH" thread.

Search, purchase and COD it to buyer all from the bank (or wherever, you guys think of something). Perfect.

Fixing the search issue would help the buyers find things more easily, but wouldn't address the fundamental problem of the trading system having been designed around limiting the number of sellers it caters for and then only with the use of addons which aren't available to console players.

S1ipperyJim

Betheny wrote: »

I wouldn't touch it either right now (not that you can anyway) - not till the addon author comes back and clears it all up. My guess is it's a false positive, the only antivirus apps showing anything are the fringey crappy ones anyway.

Bitdefender, which detects an issue is well know to be one of the best antivirus out there:

https://antivirusprotection.reviews/best-antivirus/

SteveCampsOut

QUEZ420 wrote: »

I cringe whenever I read his posts. That RP life tho lulz...

I don't personally RP myself but I Love Santi Claws posts!

esotoon

silvereyes wrote: »

If ZOS wanted to crack down on third-party auction house services like TTC and this new Nirn auction house, all they would need to do is reference the above TOS clause. But the fact that the clause exists isn't really enough to tell us how ZOS feels about these services. It's such a broad clause that it's effectively a blank check for ZOS to do whatever they want to censor people.

My guess is that while ZOS might not actively endorse such services, it would be too much hassle to send out cease and desist letters to shut them down.

I would imagine that they would view this add-on differently to TTC and MM. In this case players would be bypassing the guild trader system. Part of that system is the 'tax' that gets deducted from the sale. This is a gold sink, and is designed to keep inflation under control. In other words, a pretty vital part of the in game economy.

Anne_Firehawk

Sounds like a *** addon.

faerigirl

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

faerigirl wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

The most telling thing is how much we were hoping this would work...shows how bad the current trade system is.

Considering the number of players who frequent the forums and the small number that have posted in this thread it merely says some players would like something different.

I think you are right.

I really don't think that people would be too fussed over not having a global AH if the traders had better search abilities.

One of the main frustrations, IMO of course, is that TTC doesn't work very well (slow to update) and you go to some far flung trader just to find out the item you wanted is gone.

If we could have the traders remain but have the functionality of the addon I don't think we would see another 'AH" thread.

Search, purchase and COD it to buyer all from the bank (or wherever, you guys think of something). Perfect.

The addon was for player to player sales. Not the traditional by system. Really think someone is going to wait for you to come online or finish that raid (your raid team is certainly not going to wait on you to send the CoD if they are trying for a score).

It's also CoD. Trolls will come out and tie up some players goods for a few days until the mail is sent back to the sender.

Way to rain on my parade dude.

Just kidding. OK I always forget that people will be total tools.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Megabear

I will monitor this addon's development. It's a great idea, but also a very risky one to try.

Cadbury

faerigirl wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

faerigirl wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

The most telling thing is how much we were hoping this would work...shows how bad the current trade system is.

Considering the number of players who frequent the forums and the small number that have posted in this thread it merely says some players would like something different.

I think you are right.

I really don't think that people would be too fussed over not having a global AH if the traders had better search abilities.

One of the main frustrations, IMO of course, is that TTC doesn't work very well (slow to update) and you go to some far flung trader just to find out the item you wanted is gone.

If we could have the traders remain but have the functionality of the addon I don't think we would see another 'AH" thread.

Search, purchase and COD it to buyer all from the bank (or wherever, you guys think of something). Perfect.

The addon was for player to player sales. Not the traditional by system. Really think someone is going to wait for you to come online or finish that raid (your raid team is certainly not going to wait on you to send the CoD if they are trying for a score).

It's also CoD. Trolls will come out and tie up some players goods for a few days until the mail is sent back to the sender.

Way to rain on my parade dude.

Just kidding. OK I always forget that people will be total tools.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Can't have a fantasy game without trolls

Reverb

Stormshaper wrote: »

QUEZ420 wrote: »

I cringe whenever I read his posts. That RP life tho lulz...

C'mon, this is like saying that you hate Tom Hanks. I can only imagine your comment on Reddit with the ensuing down votes.

Lots of people in Thornblade used to say "I hate Tom Hanks".

blnchk

Looks like the author is awake: esoui.com/downloads/info1768-NirnAuctionHouse.html#comments

Drachenfier

He's being pretty open about it

Cadbury

Hope it turns out to be legit for you guys.

faerigirl

ovinnik wrote: »

Looks like the author is awake: esoui.com/downloads/info1768-NirnAuctionHouse.html#comments

@DRXHarbinger is that the information you needed?

blnchk

Cadbury wrote: »

Hope it turns out to be legit for you guys.

Hope dies last, I suppose. Or first. Mostly first.

Vipstaakki

I knew something about this was fishy. This is the perfect bait for the poor sods that don't want to use the guild traders and then use the updater to give you either Memz, Satana or Wannacry

Nyghthowler

For what it's worth I downloaded it and did a full scan with Malwarebytes. It found zero infections.

olivesforge

Stormshaper wrote: »

QUEZ420 wrote: »

I cringe whenever I read his posts. That RP life tho lulz...

C'mon, this is like saying that you hate Tom Hanks. I can only imagine your comment on Reddit with the ensuing down votes.