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PTS 3.1.0. Optimal weapo traits. For pvp and pve?

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With all the adjustments. Can we get some of the math gurus crunch numbers and tell us which trait is good for pvp and pve ?
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  • Siliziumdioxid
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    Pretty sure Infused for One Handed Weapons
    So seems like your at an disadvantage when youre using a twohanded weapon
    Edited by Siliziumdioxid on July 11, 2017 1:12AM
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  • Izaki
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    For stamina in PvE:
    Lover or Shadow mundus stone, Infused Main-hand, Precise Off-hand, Precise Bow. Lover or Shadow depends, its basically 18.3% critical hit damage vs 8.4% overall damage increase. The traits are set in stone however, the BiS is very unlikely to be different from the above.

    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    I'm not too sure about magicka in PvE (probably Precise and the Lover), but I think that for PvP, the same stuff applies as for stamina. #MagickaViper
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  • Rataroto
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    For stamina in PvE:
    Lover or Shadow mundus stone, Infused Main-hand, Precise Off-hand, Precise Bow. Lover or Shadow depends, its basically 18.3% critical hit damage vs 8.4% overall damage increase. The traits are set in stone however, the BiS is very unlikely to be different from the above.

    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    I'm not too sure about magicka in PvE (probably Precise and the Lover), but I think that for PvP, the same stuff applies as for stamina. #MagickaViper

    why precise bow if it will be literally useless when u arive on main bar?
    I say Sharp Bow (backbar for magicka peeps as well)
    and sharp/infused or sharp/precise on main bar
    for magicka peeps maybe even sharp on staff too.

    moral of the story: penetration is lower, tho penetration is king
    Sharp still King, good try ZOS
  • WuffyCerulei
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    I feel Nirnhoned and Precise are gonna be more popular this patch. I didn't realize nirnhoned gave more spell damage until I checked the PTS today. CP could cover most of the penetration if you put like 50 points into it. This patch is certainly going to breed more diversity in builds other than sharp weapons and the thief stone. With precise weapons, you could probably grab the apprentice or mage stone. More spell damage or magicka would be awesome.
    Edited by WuffyCerulei on July 11, 2017 1:40AM
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  • Tasear
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    I am suppose infused for tanks, or defending will work. Mind if you are doing dps tank then sharpened. For frost tanks charged would be good on frost staff for better proc of minor main. Maybe even decsive would be a good option for those blood spawn wearing tanks.


    Healers really still have such freedom. If you are crunching numbers it's precise or powered. Powered for safest bet in increasing raw heals. Precise I would say for more dps oriteiented healer or ones who prefer to gamble. Infused is good for sustain and providing better debuff enchaments. Charged always useful and concussions from an lighting.I could see decsive be useful especially for low cost ult healers...warden and night blade or using set like laminas song. Nirn indirectly increasing heals from essence drain so especially good for nightblades or dual wielding healers. Well cases sharpened or might have usage...


    Dps probably has more options. You don't have to have sharpened it seems. Would assume precise infused to be good options along so. Nirn maybe for those heavy attackers.

    These are my thoughts.
  • Izaki
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    Rataroto wrote: »
    For stamina in PvE:
    Lover or Shadow mundus stone, Infused Main-hand, Precise Off-hand, Precise Bow. Lover or Shadow depends, its basically 18.3% critical hit damage vs 8.4% overall damage increase. The traits are set in stone however, the BiS is very unlikely to be different from the above.

    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    I'm not too sure about magicka in PvE (probably Precise and the Lover), but I think that for PvP, the same stuff applies as for stamina. #MagickaViper

    why precise bow if it will be literally useless when u arive on main bar?
    I say Sharp Bow (backbar for magicka peeps as well)
    and sharp/infused or sharp/precise on main bar
    for magicka peeps maybe even sharp on staff too.

    moral of the story: penetration is lower, tho penetration is king
    Sharp still King, good try ZOS

    Sharp is useless. You replace sharpened with the Lover. It gives you 4.1k penetration vs 2.7k from sharpened. Sharpened is also useless on the back bar because you'll be overpenetrating on that bar which means you're wasting DPS while on the bow bar (and on most classes you're on the bow bar for about 40-50% of the time). Precise back bar on the other hand ensures that you have an even crit rate on both bars.

    Right now on the PTS, I have 80% crit on a Redguard NB without the Thief mundus stone and I have 18k penetration without Sharpened.

    Btw, Infused is already better than Sharp in Morrowind, and they are buffing Infused and nerfing Sharp, what does that tell you? :tongue:

    Penetration is important, but Sharp is easily replacable.
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  • Sordidfairytale
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    Tasear wrote: »
    ... or defending will work...

    You're absolutely right, tanks have a huge option now for enchants, though Defending is not needed on a heavy armor tank. I was at max resistances without CP in my current setup. Though I did put together a light armor tank that will benefit from Defending. I think a medium armor tank would benefit from Defending as well, but you'd likely want decisive on that for the ulti gen.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Rataroto wrote: »
    For stamina in PvE:
    Lover or Shadow mundus stone, Infused Main-hand, Precise Off-hand, Precise Bow. Lover or Shadow depends, its basically 18.3% critical hit damage vs 8.4% overall damage increase. The traits are set in stone however, the BiS is very unlikely to be different from the above.

    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    I'm not too sure about magicka in PvE (probably Precise and the Lover), but I think that for PvP, the same stuff applies as for stamina. #MagickaViper

    why precise bow if it will be literally useless when u arive on main bar?
    I say Sharp Bow (backbar for magicka peeps as well)
    and sharp/infused or sharp/precise on main bar
    for magicka peeps maybe even sharp on staff too.

    moral of the story: penetration is lower, tho penetration is king
    Sharp still King, good try ZOS

    Sharp is useless. You replace sharpened with the Lover. It gives you 4.1k penetration vs 2.7k from sharpened. Sharpened is also useless on the back bar because you'll be overpenetrating on that bar which means you're wasting DPS while on the bow bar (and on most classes you're on the bow bar for about 40-50% of the time). Precise back bar on the other hand ensures that you have an even crit rate on both bars.

    Right now on the PTS, I have 80% crit on a Redguard NB without the Thief mundus stone and I have 18k penetration without Sharpened.

    Btw, Infused is already better than Sharp in Morrowind, and they are buffing Infused and nerfing Sharp, what does that tell you? :tongue:

    Penetration is important, but Sharp is easily replacable.

    Don't forget that crit's fairly easy to get on stam builds, and especially on NBs. Magblades are probably gonna do pretty well without the theif stone this patch too. Still figuring out damage stuff without sharp staves on my toons tho, so I can't quite say anything about that.
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  • Minute_Waltz
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    In regards to pve, alkosh must make a return, either via tank or stam dps imo.

    10k base (mag, or stam with tfs) with taunt, 3k alkosh, 3k cp, 1.5k crusher, 1.3k pol

    mag go precise shadow, stam go infused/precise shadow
    edit: for solo just change shadow to lover
    Edited by Minute_Waltz on July 11, 2017 2:12AM
  • Morgul667
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    I wonder if Nirn will be back ? :)
  • Sordidfairytale
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    In regards to pve, alkosh must make a return, either via tank or stam dps imo.

    10k base (mag, or stam with tfs) with taunt, 3k alkosh, 3k cp, 1.5k crusher, 1.3k pol

    mag go precise shadow, stam go infused/precise shadow

    I run a Torug/Alkosh tank.

    TorugsTank.png
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  • Izaki
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    @Rataroto Adding on to what I said in my post answering your post :)

    http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

    Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar, 5 Hunding's, 5 TFS, 2 Kra'gh, Lover Mundus Stone, about 20 CP into penetration.

    ^ I'm 99% sure that's the BiS setup! :) Obviously, Hunding's is replacable with literally any other set, but as far as traits and mundus go, this looks like its sweet.

    I also had 250 ping cause EU server :D Which is probably why its 1.2k behind my best score so far on the current patch!
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  • Oompuh
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    In regards to pve, alkosh must make a return, either via tank or stam dps imo.

    10k base (mag, or stam with tfs) with taunt, 3k alkosh, 3k cp, 1.5k crusher, 1.3k pol

    mag go precise shadow, stam go infused/precise shadow

    I run a Torug/Alkosh tank.

    TorugsTank.png

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  • revonine
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    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    hmmm, infused with poison enchant, with Morag Tong set....it's got me thinking. Wish i could test it but console pleb :(

    Edited by revonine on July 11, 2017 2:55AM
  • Oompuh
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    Lets think about this for a second.. from a group perspective.

    Choice A ) Sharpened Weapons and Thief = 2.7K pen + (9% + Divines, I dont know this number)
    Choice B ) Precise and Lover = 9% crit + 4.1k pen
    Theres other choices probably..

    Now heres the thing, in Morrowind, lots of Tanks dropped Alkosh because it was unneccesary due to Spell Erosion/Piercing being more frontloaded. Now we lost, ~2.4k pen. If Tanks start using alkosh again. Sharpened + Alkosh = Last patchs Sharpened.

    Something to test for group PvE
    Edited by Oompuh on July 11, 2017 3:00AM
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  • Oompuh
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    In regards to pve, alkosh must make a return, either via tank or stam dps imo.

    10k base (mag, or stam with tfs) with taunt, 3k alkosh, 3k cp, 1.5k crusher, 1.3k pol

    mag go precise shadow, stam go infused/precise shadow
    edit: for solo just change shadow to lover

    You might just have something here..

    18500 Base
    Major Breach = 18500 - 5280 = 13220
    Minor Breach = 13220 - 1320 = 11900
    Concentration = 11900 - 4884 = 7016
    Alkosh = 7016 - 3010 = 4006
    Crusher = 4006 - 1622 = 2384
    (Infused = 2384 - 487 = 1897)
    Add CP to taste.
    Edited by Oompuh on July 11, 2017 3:22AM
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  • Izaki
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    Oompuh wrote: »
    Lets think about this for a second.. from a group perspective.

    Choice A ) Sharpened Weapons and Thief = 2.7K pen + (9% + Divines, I dont know this number)
    Choice B ) Precise and Lover = 9% crit + 4.1k pen
    Theres other choices probably..

    Now heres the thing, in Morrowind, lots of Tanks dropped Alkosh because it was unneccesary due to Spell Erosion/Piercing being more frontloaded. Now we lost, ~2.4k pen. If Tanks start using alkosh again. Sharpened + Alkosh = Last patchs Sharpened.

    Something to test for group PvE

    I put a screenshot of a slightly modified choice B a little earlier in the thread :)http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

    Another thing to consider, is the exact same traits, but with the Shadow mundus stone and a different CP setup. Testing it right now and it seems to be giving the exact same results as the Lover.
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  • HatchetHaro
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    @Rataroto Adding on to what I said in my post answering your post :)

    http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

    Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar, 5 Hunding's, 5 TFS, 2 Kra'gh, Lover Mundus Stone, about 20 CP into penetration.

    ^ I'm 99% sure that's the BiS setup! :) Obviously, Hunding's is replacable with literally any other set, but as far as traits and mundus go, this looks like its sweet.

    I also had 250 ping cause EU server :D Which is probably why its 1.2k behind my best score so far on the current patch!

    Is that a solo parse or a raid buffed parse?
    Edited by HatchetHaro on July 11, 2017 3:14AM
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  • Izaki
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    Okay so just tested the Shadow mundus stone.

    http://imgur.com/fxVhSZu

    5 Hunding's, 5 TFS, 2 Kra'gh, vMA Bow, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar, Shadow mundus.

    So basically your choices for mundus stones this patch in PvE on Stam NB are: Lover and Shadow.

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    Decisive all day
  • Izaki
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    @Rataroto Adding on to what I said in my post answering your post :)

    http://imgur.com/kjzhotC

    Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar, 5 Hunding's, 5 TFS, 2 Kra'gh, Lover Mundus Stone, about 20 CP into penetration.

    ^ I'm 99% sure that's the BiS setup! :) Obviously, Hunding's is replacable with literally any other set, but as far as traits and mundus go, this looks like its sweet.

    I also had 250 ping cause EU server :D Which is probably why its 1.2k behind my best score so far on the current patch!

    Is that a solo parse or a raid buffed parse?

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    Solo of course ;) I'm hitting 48.2k on live. This patch, with 250 ping, I'm consistenty hitting 47-48k. So I think that solo 50k single target will be possible if Horns of the Reach goes live in its current state.
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  • Oompuh
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    Nvm
    Edited by Oompuh on July 11, 2017 3:44AM
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  • Rataroto
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    Rataroto wrote: »
    For stamina in PvE:
    Lover or Shadow mundus stone, Infused Main-hand, Precise Off-hand, Precise Bow. Lover or Shadow depends, its basically 18.3% critical hit damage vs 8.4% overall damage increase. The traits are set in stone however, the BiS is very unlikely to be different from the above.

    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    I'm not too sure about magicka in PvE (probably Precise and the Lover), but I think that for PvP, the same stuff applies as for stamina. #MagickaViper

    why precise bow if it will be literally useless when u arive on main bar?
    I say Sharp Bow (backbar for magicka peeps as well)
    and sharp/infused or sharp/precise on main bar
    for magicka peeps maybe even sharp on staff too.

    moral of the story: penetration is lower, tho penetration is king
    Sharp still King, good try ZOS

    Sharp is useless. You replace sharpened with the Lover. It gives you 4.1k penetration vs 2.7k from sharpened. Sharpened is also useless on the back bar because you'll be overpenetrating on that bar which means you're wasting DPS while on the bow bar (and on most classes you're on the bow bar for about 40-50% of the time). Precise back bar on the other hand ensures that you have an even crit rate on both bars.

    Right now on the PTS, I have 80% crit on a Redguard NB without the Thief mundus stone and I have 18k penetration without Sharpened.

    Btw, Infused is already better than Sharp in Morrowind, and they are buffing Infused and nerfing Sharp, what does that tell you? :tongue:

    Penetration is important, but Sharp is easily replacable.

    sharp, still, the only, trait, that, caries, over, so backbar still sharp...
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Rataroto wrote: »
    Rataroto wrote: »
    For stamina in PvE:
    Lover or Shadow mundus stone, Infused Main-hand, Precise Off-hand, Precise Bow. Lover or Shadow depends, its basically 18.3% critical hit damage vs 8.4% overall damage increase. The traits are set in stone however, the BiS is very unlikely to be different from the above.

    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    I'm not too sure about magicka in PvE (probably Precise and the Lover), but I think that for PvP, the same stuff applies as for stamina. #MagickaViper

    why precise bow if it will be literally useless when u arive on main bar?
    I say Sharp Bow (backbar for magicka peeps as well)
    and sharp/infused or sharp/precise on main bar
    for magicka peeps maybe even sharp on staff too.

    moral of the story: penetration is lower, tho penetration is king
    Sharp still King, good try ZOS

    Sharp is useless. You replace sharpened with the Lover. It gives you 4.1k penetration vs 2.7k from sharpened. Sharpened is also useless on the back bar because you'll be overpenetrating on that bar which means you're wasting DPS while on the bow bar (and on most classes you're on the bow bar for about 40-50% of the time). Precise back bar on the other hand ensures that you have an even crit rate on both bars.

    Right now on the PTS, I have 80% crit on a Redguard NB without the Thief mundus stone and I have 18k penetration without Sharpened.

    Btw, Infused is already better than Sharp in Morrowind, and they are buffing Infused and nerfing Sharp, what does that tell you? :tongue:

    Penetration is important, but Sharp is easily replacable.

    sharp, still, the only, trait, that, caries, over, so backbar still sharp...

    Nirn does too.
  • Jonno
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    Okay so just tested the Shadow mundus stone.

    http://imgur.com/fxVhSZu

    5 Hunding's, 5 TFS, 2 Kra'gh, vMA Bow, Infused/Precise front bar, Precise back bar, Shadow mundus.

    So basically your choices for mundus stones this patch in PvE on Stam NB are: Lover and Shadow.

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    @HatchetHaro I found u again.
    Edited by WuffyCerulei on July 11, 2017 8:33AM
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  • Izaki
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    Rataroto wrote: »
    Rataroto wrote: »
    For stamina in PvE:
    Lover or Shadow mundus stone, Infused Main-hand, Precise Off-hand, Precise Bow. Lover or Shadow depends, its basically 18.3% critical hit damage vs 8.4% overall damage increase. The traits are set in stone however, the BiS is very unlikely to be different from the above.

    For stamina in PvP:
    As usual it depends on a lot of variables, including your opponents. Sharpened is most likely still the best trait for straight up damage (especially against tanky opponents), Precise and Nirnhoned are pretty good options for both offense and defense.
    However: Infused with a Poison Enchant and the Lover Mundus stone is basically a new Viper and if you manage to get enough penetration through your sets and CP, then this may very well be the new "cancer meta".

    I'm not too sure about magicka in PvE (probably Precise and the Lover), but I think that for PvP, the same stuff applies as for stamina. #MagickaViper

    why precise bow if it will be literally useless when u arive on main bar?
    I say Sharp Bow (backbar for magicka peeps as well)
    and sharp/infused or sharp/precise on main bar
    for magicka peeps maybe even sharp on staff too.

    moral of the story: penetration is lower, tho penetration is king
    Sharp still King, good try ZOS

    Sharp is useless. You replace sharpened with the Lover. It gives you 4.1k penetration vs 2.7k from sharpened. Sharpened is also useless on the back bar because you'll be overpenetrating on that bar which means you're wasting DPS while on the bow bar (and on most classes you're on the bow bar for about 40-50% of the time). Precise back bar on the other hand ensures that you have an even crit rate on both bars.

    Right now on the PTS, I have 80% crit on a Redguard NB without the Thief mundus stone and I have 18k penetration without Sharpened.

    Btw, Infused is already better than Sharp in Morrowind, and they are buffing Infused and nerfing Sharp, what does that tell you? :tongue:

    Penetration is important, but Sharp is easily replacable.

    sharp, still, the only, trait, that, caries, over, so backbar still sharp...

    Sharp carries over sure, but you don't need it to carry over because you have 18k penetration on both bars without it.

    That's a really stupid reason to use Sharp, even Nirnhoned would be better.
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  • Draqone
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    Also, on stamina you actually spend a large percentage of your time on the backbar. You need to recast 4 to 5 skills every ~11 seconds which means you are on the backbar some 30-40% of the time.
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  • Izaki
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    Draqone wrote: »
    Also, on stamina you actually spend a large percentage of your time on the backbar. You need to recast 4 to 5 skills every ~11 seconds which means you are on the backbar some 30-40% of the time.

    I'd say more like 40-50% on the time for most classes. You've got at least 4 skills to apply: Trap, Hail, Caltrops and Injection.
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    I'm curious to see some testing with other traits too. Probably not BiS type stuff but I'd like to see how say a charged Inferno staff does now that burning does about double damage now. Also, does that make Burning Spell Weave more universally useful again? Especially since Burning, concussion, etc scale off max stats and max damage. Also, because nirnhoned will increase spell damage on staves now by about 200 on gold, is there a good way to make Apprentice mundus work well with certain magic setups. I'm thinking a Charged inferno maelstrom staff, Apprentice mundus, and Nirnhoned lightning front bar with damage enchant. Seems like there would be a ton of damage there.
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