[EU/PC] Vivec - Can we lock the gates between 12:00 and 06:00 or something please?

Zorgon_The_Revenged

Glamdring wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

dynamic population caps.

dont go there, u think ZoS can code that without bugs?

This is very true, don't AD on Vivec keep the Emp health buff when losing emp sometimes (the new emp faction don't get it as a result). Also I recall in the non-CP campaign AD had/have a permanent low pop bonus even when they are/were second in the campaign with 3 bars of population, totally screwing over the third place faction.

It's not the fact that a faction benefit from these bugs, more the fact these bugs exist and have done for months.

If some sort of dynamic population bonus needs to be used, my vote would go for a boost to keep wall/gates health the lower the population goes.

Lieblingsjunge

Derra wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).

I´m sorry but - wat?

US alone has a 3 hour time difference between east- and westcoast (eu as britain on a 1 hour time difference).
They have no sharp primetime peak of 3 hours like EU has.
They also have no as drastic population drop during off hours.

Nobody is even saying EU has the issues NA does. People say NA does not have the issues EU does not in terms of timezones - but in distribution of playerbase during non primetime.
Do you even read what you post sometimes?

And more importantly: Have you ever played not AD in the morning/noon since one tamriel released?

And Europe is no different when you consider russians & brits. There's also time-zone differences there. Or are you forgetting about the eastern-european countries? They do exist, too From Britain to Greece there is at least 2 hours difference

I was referring to MLRPZ' post about not having oceanic players on EU & Ilyas' post "We don't have people from all around the world". So as you see, there *are* people saying what I voiced against. There's a lot of people from around the world on EU and there are people that work shifts on EU. There's no difference between having timezone difference and having people from all around the world.

I'm just gonna ignore your passive-aggressive tone(You're not subtle enough for it to work, sorry). Depends what you consider morning. I usually don't play any PvP before 12.00(Noon, no longer morning) because I'm either at uni or sleeping. The times I've actually bothered to log ESO outside of raids and other planned events, I've played my DC-stamblade. @Magıc can vouch for me as he's whispered me multiples times "You don't get GO by playing DC".

DisgracefulMind

Magıc wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

No oceanic people on EU? That's a big lie. I know a lot of aussies currently playing on EU-server, let's not forget the people I know that I know plays from the countries between south/north-america(wtf is that area called in English?). EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).

Sure - capping the map at 06.00 shouldn't be a thing - but it still is. And tbf, there's not much ZoS can do about it. Locking the campaigns / prevent keeps from flipping would discriminate people from specific regions or people that work shifts.

I like the idea of low score / pop bonus, but it currently doesn't work very well. As long as one faction doesn't have 2 bars less players throughout the entier day, it won't kick in.

No, it really does not lmao. I've played NA, I've spoke to people who play NA from Anaire, to Force, to many others. Their population does not drop off like ours does, it never has "dead hours" as Anaire put it above.

And again, as stated before, it's not Oceanic people doing this, it's a German guild. Our population is almost completely Europeans. We have nowhere near as many Oceanic/NA/SA/Central players as NA does.

Yeah, Vivec on NA doesn't really ever "die". There are still plenty of people to fight at any hour of the day. I'm central US time, and I can find fights any hour I end up being on. Sometimes I wake up at 4am and play for a couple of hours before I have to take care of irl responsibilities, and there's plenty of fights happening. Sometimes I'm on at 1am, 3am, 9am, etc etc. Always fights. CP camp never really dies.

Derra

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

I'm just gonna ignore your passive-aggressive tone(You're not subtle enough for it to work, sorry). Depends what you consider morning. I usually don't play any PvP before 12.00(Noon, no longer morning) because I'm either at uni or sleeping. The times I've actually bothered to log ESO outside of raids and other planned events, I've played my DC-stamblade. @Magıc can vouch for me as he's whispered me multiples times "You don't get GO by playing DC".

So where do you suggest the problem the EU server has originate from?
Or are you by chance suggesting that there are no problems on the EU server.

Sorry it wasn´t meant to be passive agressive. I was just seeking an agressive tone that would not get moderated by the forum rules.
I don´t even want to start arguing about population density of the timezones and other stuff.

I´m just interested what you think especially about this statement:

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

No oceanic people on EU? That's a big lie. I know a lot of aussies currently playing on EU-server, let's not forget the people I know that I know plays from the countries between south/north-america(wtf is that area called in English?). EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).

Sure - capping the map at 06.00 shouldn't be a thing - but it still is. And tbf, there's not much ZoS can do about it. Locking the campaigns / prevent keeps from flipping would discriminate people from specific regions or people that work shifts.

I like the idea of low score / pop bonus, but it currently doesn't work very well. As long as one faction doesn't have 2 bars less players throughout the entier day, it won't kick in.

No, it really does not lmao. I've played NA, I've spoke to people who play NA from Anaire, to Force, to many others. Their population does not drop off like ours does, it never has "dead hours" as Anaire put it above.

And again, as stated before, it's not Oceanic people doing this, it's a German guild. Our population is almost completely Europeans. We have nowhere near as many Oceanic/NA/SA/Central players as NA does.

Yeah, Vivec on NA doesn't really ever "die". There are still plenty of people to fight at any hour of the day. I'm central US time, and I can find fights any hour I end up being on. Sometimes I wake up at 4am and play for a couple of hours before I have to take care of irl responsibilities, and there's plenty of fights happening. Sometimes I'm on at 1am, 3am, 9am, etc etc. Always fights. CP camp never really dies.

And how you would explain it by other means than timezones of players on a megaserver.

Morgul667

The idea to adapt scoring method based on population seems easy enough for developers to implement, while solving the issue and not preventing people to play on their free-time.

It basically reduce the impact of night capping on overall score.

Valencer

Theoretically it might encourage people to keep playing the map if the scores somehow remain fair despite constant nightcapping, but it won't make the actual PvP experience any more fun during the off-hours.

You'll still have the Vivec AD rolling over lightly defended keeps with 50 people because theyre having a great time zerging down keeps with no chance of getting stopped, and collecting those juicy 6k PvDoor ticks. You'll still have the Vivec EP and DC giving up and logging off because it's impossible to put up proper resistance.

It fixes some of the symptoms, but not the underlying problem.

Docmandu

Just remove campaign scoring.

Anyway population imbalances have always been an issue in PvP games... 3 factions helps a bit.. except that with the design of Cyrodiil, people just take the closest keep to fight, doesn't matter how the map looks.

Don't really see a solution to the problem though... maybe allow guilds to bump the strength of a keep for certain time periods, at a cost. Or scale keep strength with the number of keeps you own... or have keep walls degrade really fast if you own the entire map... or open up teleports to the towns once you have no keep anymore...

dunno.. something is bound to work..

Lieblingsjunge

Derra wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

I'm just gonna ignore your passive-aggressive tone(You're not subtle enough for it to work, sorry). Depends what you consider morning. I usually don't play any PvP before 12.00(Noon, no longer morning) because I'm either at uni or sleeping. The times I've actually bothered to log ESO outside of raids and other planned events, I've played my DC-stamblade. @Magıc can vouch for me as he's whispered me multiples times "You don't get GO by playing DC".

So where do you suggest the problem the EU server has originate from?
Or are you by chance suggesting that there are no problems on the EU server.

Sorry it wasn´t meant to be passive agressive. I was just seeking an agressive tone that would not get moderated by the forum rules.
I don´t even want to start arguing about population density of the timezones and other stuff.

I´m just interested what you think especially about this statement:

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

No oceanic people on EU? That's a big lie. I know a lot of aussies currently playing on EU-server, let's not forget the people I know that I know plays from the countries between south/north-america(wtf is that area called in English?). EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).

Sure - capping the map at 06.00 shouldn't be a thing - but it still is. And tbf, there's not much ZoS can do about it. Locking the campaigns / prevent keeps from flipping would discriminate people from specific regions or people that work shifts.

I like the idea of low score / pop bonus, but it currently doesn't work very well. As long as one faction doesn't have 2 bars less players throughout the entier day, it won't kick in.

No, it really does not lmao. I've played NA, I've spoke to people who play NA from Anaire, to Force, to many others. Their population does not drop off like ours does, it never has "dead hours" as Anaire put it above.

And again, as stated before, it's not Oceanic people doing this, it's a German guild. Our population is almost completely Europeans. We have nowhere near as many Oceanic/NA/SA/Central players as NA does.

Yeah, Vivec on NA doesn't really ever "die". There are still plenty of people to fight at any hour of the day. I'm central US time, and I can find fights any hour I end up being on. Sometimes I wake up at 4am and play for a couple of hours before I have to take care of irl responsibilities, and there's plenty of fights happening. Sometimes I'm on at 1am, 3am, 9am, etc etc. Always fights. CP camp never really dies.

And how you would explain it by other means than timezones of players on a megaserver.

The problem of the EU-server? It's purely player behaviour. As it's been pointed out, it's 1 -one- guild that caps it in the morning. If you remember the Bleakers & the Grand Bleakerslords, it barely happened - if it happened at all, on NA-server. It's player culture and player behaviour that's the issue on the EU-server. Probably an indirect consequense of a higher concentrated population. There's numerous problems on the EU-server, saying otherwise is naïve and silly. But in the end - the problems the EU-server faces is simply player behaviour and player culture. And there's nothing Zenimax can do to combat that. The only ones who can change that are the players themselves.

I haven't played on NA, but I do know that they don't fall off the same way EU does, in terms of population. EU has a much larger, concentrated population. That's true - but you can still find campaigns with high population at 3AM on EU-servers, too. Even at 9 in the morning. So there's similar trends on EU - but not to the same extent.

It's the distribution of players that live in different areas. Just because there's a guild with 350+ oceanic people on EU(Can't remember the name atm) doesn't make it right to close the campaigns in a time-zone that they play in, just because they're a minority.

Difference? NA probably has similar numbers playing from Japan / Oceania / US / Other regions, whereas EU has mostly europeans with a 1-2 hour time-difference and then a minority from other regions.

Streega

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:
1. We DO have players from around the world on EU/PC - whole Africa, half of Asia, some Yanks! and Aussies, too.
2. Around 3-6 am the server IS almost dead. I have caught all my Cyrodil fishes and soloed the quest hubs in that period of time.
Now, if you are saying that it is one German guild who does the thing, why don't you bring your lazy asses to face them? If they can, why can't you? Imagine my folks in PL during WW2 whining "oh, please stop invading us when we are sleeping!" (the invasion started around 4 am 1.09.1939).
If you taking this so seriously, take serious measures.

Nermy

I really don't know why some of you guys are arguing about time zones, that's not the issue here. The issue is one EU player (we all know who it is) his guild and pugs taking EVERYTHING while there is no opposition on the map.They are getting 100 points per hour while DC and EP get zilch.

Then as more EP and DC come online they have to fight to get everything back again. Meanwhile AD have just gone 2-300 points ahead.

What is sad is:
a) ZoS's silence and inaction on this matter.
b) This guy knows he is killing the campaign but keeps on.

I don't know the last time I even looked at the campaign score. I only PvP for the kills and thrills now.

Thinking of taking my guild to Shor now as Vivec is boring. And I mean boooooring....

Derra

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:
1. We DO have players from around the world on EU/PC - whole Africa, half of Asia, some Yanks! and Aussies, too.
2. Around 3-6 am the server IS almost dead. I have caught all my Cyrodil fishes and soloed the quest hubs in that period of time.
Now, if you are saying that it is one German guild who does the thing, why don't you bring your lazy asses to face them? If they can, why can't you? Imagine my folks in PL during WW2 whining "oh, please stop invading us when we are sleeping!" (the invasion started around 4 am 1.09.1939).
If you taking this so seriously, take serious measures.

Because at the time they raid keeps in the morning with 30 people there´s like a total of 10 people online on the opposing factions.
You can´t defend against them because they outnumber you in a way that any resistance is not possible.

They simply have so many players they can defend against both factions at the same time.

It´s a faction imbalance problem. You can´t fight when there´s nobody on to fight them.

Derra

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

I'm just gonna ignore your passive-aggressive tone(You're not subtle enough for it to work, sorry). Depends what you consider morning. I usually don't play any PvP before 12.00(Noon, no longer morning) because I'm either at uni or sleeping. The times I've actually bothered to log ESO outside of raids and other planned events, I've played my DC-stamblade. @Magıc can vouch for me as he's whispered me multiples times "You don't get GO by playing DC".

So where do you suggest the problem the EU server has originate from?
Or are you by chance suggesting that there are no problems on the EU server.

Sorry it wasn´t meant to be passive agressive. I was just seeking an agressive tone that would not get moderated by the forum rules.
I don´t even want to start arguing about population density of the timezones and other stuff.

I´m just interested what you think especially about this statement:

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

No oceanic people on EU? That's a big lie. I know a lot of aussies currently playing on EU-server, let's not forget the people I know that I know plays from the countries between south/north-america(wtf is that area called in English?). EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).

Sure - capping the map at 06.00 shouldn't be a thing - but it still is. And tbf, there's not much ZoS can do about it. Locking the campaigns / prevent keeps from flipping would discriminate people from specific regions or people that work shifts.

I like the idea of low score / pop bonus, but it currently doesn't work very well. As long as one faction doesn't have 2 bars less players throughout the entier day, it won't kick in.

No, it really does not lmao. I've played NA, I've spoke to people who play NA from Anaire, to Force, to many others. Their population does not drop off like ours does, it never has "dead hours" as Anaire put it above.

And again, as stated before, it's not Oceanic people doing this, it's a German guild. Our population is almost completely Europeans. We have nowhere near as many Oceanic/NA/SA/Central players as NA does.

Yeah, Vivec on NA doesn't really ever "die". There are still plenty of people to fight at any hour of the day. I'm central US time, and I can find fights any hour I end up being on. Sometimes I wake up at 4am and play for a couple of hours before I have to take care of irl responsibilities, and there's plenty of fights happening. Sometimes I'm on at 1am, 3am, 9am, etc etc. Always fights. CP camp never really dies.

And how you would explain it by other means than timezones of players on a megaserver.

The problem of the EU-server? It's purely player behaviour.

So where should i pull the players to fight 30 ad at 8 in the morning from?

It´s not like the people online don´t def. The problem is that sometimes the people online are like me and three others against a full raid.

How is that player behavior and not population imbalance?

Nermy

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:

Keep your facts... If you rarely PvP, why even comment?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Simple solution is have a "Resource" mechanic for the server.
Each side has say 300 resources. Players take up 2 resources, guards take up 5. Depending on the number of player in cyro every 10m more guards get sent to the home keeps equally. So if your faction has 1 keep left and there are 10 players in cyro
Imagine fighting against 56 guards with your night cap zerg. Far more epic and allows the players to push out from a keep and try take another (at which point the guards would split between those 2 keeps)

Streega

Nermy wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:

Keep your facts... If you rarely PvP, why even comment?

Because I'm not involved and can be objective. I'm asking one more time: why can't you form a group of 50 ppl and kick the bad guy out?

And since my opinion seems to be not wanted, I'm out of this topic.

Derra

Streega wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:

Keep your facts... If you rarely PvP, why even comment?

Because I'm not involved and can be objective. I'm asking one more time: why can't you form a group of 50 ppl and kick the bad guy out?

And since my opinion seems to be not wanted, I'm out of this topic.

@Streega nobody online to form the group with.

That´s the issue we´re discussing about. One faction having more players online.

Nermy

Streega wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:

Keep your facts... If you rarely PvP, why even comment?

Because I'm not involved and can be objective. I'm asking one more time: why can't you form a group of 50 ppl and kick the bad guy out?

And since my opinion seems to be not wanted, I'm out of this topic.

By calling it 'silly' you were being disparaging and therefore shot yourself in the foot. As soon as I read that, I didn't care what you thought. Maybe think about your choice of words in future.

Personally, I have a job and far better things to do at 5am everyday. As I said, this is a long running issue, guy knows what he is doing and doesn't care, same as ZoS.

Streega

Derra wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:

Keep your facts... If you rarely PvP, why even comment?

Because I'm not involved and can be objective. I'm asking one more time: why can't you form a group of 50 ppl and kick the bad guy out?

And since my opinion seems to be not wanted, I'm out of this topic.

@Streega nobody online to form the group with.

That´s the issue we´re discussing about. One faction having more players online.

I understand, but that's why I said "form". Have a meeting with few big guild leaders and make a commando As far as I remember there was something like that in 2015/2016. Since many good PvP-ers from those guilds left, maybe you need to regroup and fill the void.

Nermy wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:

Keep your facts... If you rarely PvP, why even comment?

Because I'm not involved and can be objective. I'm asking one more time: why can't you form a group of 50 ppl and kick the bad guy out?

And since my opinion seems to be not wanted, I'm out of this topic.

[snip]
Personally, I have a job and far better things to do at 5am everyday. [snip]

That kind of proves my point. Your real life is more important than this silly war Which is understandable, but if you want to do something about the campaign, you have to wake up at 4 am and fight. It's not ZOS fault and they absolutely shouldn't intervene.

Hexys

Derra wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Giahh wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

dynamic population caps.

dont go there, u think ZoS can code that without bugs?

mmmm more like you think ZoS wants to tell X percent of their customers they cant play when they want on the faction they want because its "not fair"

I don't know about EU, but on NA this happens in phases to every faction. right now its just not DC's time, or on NA, AD's. The time will come again.

Its every morning for the last 4 months or so? Its a real problem for EU playerbase

I don´t think ad has lost even one 30 day CP campaign since 1 tamriel released.
Ep won the last time before azura got converted to nonCP.
No idea about DC. It´s been a while.

The last time DC won was July 2016, to counter the morningcap we took all their homekeep ressources just before the score evaluation every hour to make up for the score

Also the issue in the morning isn't really AD, well it is but let me explain. The opposite factions don't have players to make groups in the morning. If the AD guild that caps keeps in the morning would switch alliance, the whole morningcap will shift to this faction, then the ball starts rolling as mostly everyone likes to play the winning side.

Go to Sotha Sil as AD in the morning and see a horde of EP zerging you over, this is the same argument for DC/EP on Vivec.

Zos should just make it so that on PC-EU the score evaluation during the night isn't 1 hour, but 2-4 hours.

Derra

Hexys wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Iyas wrote: »

Giahh wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

dynamic population caps.

dont go there, u think ZoS can code that without bugs?

mmmm more like you think ZoS wants to tell X percent of their customers they cant play when they want on the faction they want because its "not fair"

I don't know about EU, but on NA this happens in phases to every faction. right now its just not DC's time, or on NA, AD's. The time will come again.

Its every morning for the last 4 months or so? Its a real problem for EU playerbase

I don´t think ad has lost even one 30 day CP campaign since 1 tamriel released.
Ep won the last time before azura got converted to nonCP.
No idea about DC. It´s been a while.

The last time DC won was July 2016, to counter the morningcap we took all their homekeep ressources just before the score evaluation every hour to make up for the score

Nice so 11 months of unrivaled AD domination in the most populated campaign.

Streega wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

Streega wrote: »

OK, first - I rarely do PvP, so I don't care about your silly war, but here are the facts:

Keep your facts... If you rarely PvP, why even comment?

Because I'm not involved and can be objective. I'm asking one more time: why can't you form a group of 50 ppl and kick the bad guy out?

And since my opinion seems to be not wanted, I'm out of this topic.

@Streega nobody online to form the group with.

That´s the issue we´re discussing about. One faction having more players online.

I understand, but that's why I said "form". Have a meeting with few big guild leaders and make a commando As far as I remember there was something like that in 2015/2016. Since many good PvP-ers from those guilds left, maybe you need to regroup and fill the void.

Ok. Looking for someone who want´s to do that. Any volunteers?

idk

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

So people who work on different time shift or timezone should not be able to play Cyrodill like they want in their free time ?
Does not seem right to me.

These are the people that win the campaigns. It should NOT be like that.

If suggesting players need to play within specific times to gain AP and achieve leaderboard standings then it is ill thought. This is a 24 hour game. The MMO continues even when we are not logged in and will remain that way.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

So people who work on different time shift or timezone should not be able to play Cyrodill like they want in their free time ?
Does not seem right to me.

These are the people that win the campaigns. It should NOT be like that.

If suggesting players need to play within specific times to gain AP and achieve leaderboard standings then it is ill thought. This is a 24 hour game. The MMO continues even when we are not logged in and will remain that way.

It is a 24h game sure but equally games generally revolve around the concept of balance. It's not balanced for one faction to have 50 players and another 5 no matter what the time of day. Mechanics need to be added to prevent such things from being a walkover. Hence my suggesting above about the increased NPC presence population based system.
I still remember the early days where guards were hard and mercenaries were a thing. A new system similar and automatic would be good imo.

magicsprout

Actually xbox eu has a large proportion of Aussie players.

Magıc

July? Damn, so mid 2016, not even end of 2016 since the last time AD lost the campaign. And in those 11 months they've had a 5000+ point lead each campaign.

Balanced...

Karm1cOne

Players have to want good fights and even pops. But not everyone wants that. They want to Xv1, or fight potatoes. Unless Zos forces population parity, getting pvdoored or served off primetime will happen.

Derra

Streega wrote: »

That kind of proves my point. Your real life is more important than this silly war Which is understandable, but if you want to do something about the campaign, you have to wake up at 4 am and fight. It's not ZOS fault and they absolutely shouldn't intervene.

They absolutely should intervene because it´s harming the game already and will harm it even more in the long run.

Lost players due to campaigns being unplayable = bad.

Lieblingsjunge

Derra wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

I'm just gonna ignore your passive-aggressive tone(You're not subtle enough for it to work, sorry). Depends what you consider morning. I usually don't play any PvP before 12.00(Noon, no longer morning) because I'm either at uni or sleeping. The times I've actually bothered to log ESO outside of raids and other planned events, I've played my DC-stamblade. @Magıc can vouch for me as he's whispered me multiples times "You don't get GO by playing DC".

So where do you suggest the problem the EU server has originate from?
Or are you by chance suggesting that there are no problems on the EU server.

Sorry it wasn´t meant to be passive agressive. I was just seeking an agressive tone that would not get moderated by the forum rules.
I don´t even want to start arguing about population density of the timezones and other stuff.

I´m just interested what you think especially about this statement:

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Magıc wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

No oceanic people on EU? That's a big lie. I know a lot of aussies currently playing on EU-server, let's not forget the people I know that I know plays from the countries between south/north-america(wtf is that area called in English?). EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).

Sure - capping the map at 06.00 shouldn't be a thing - but it still is. And tbf, there's not much ZoS can do about it. Locking the campaigns / prevent keeps from flipping would discriminate people from specific regions or people that work shifts.

I like the idea of low score / pop bonus, but it currently doesn't work very well. As long as one faction doesn't have 2 bars less players throughout the entier day, it won't kick in.

No, it really does not lmao. I've played NA, I've spoke to people who play NA from Anaire, to Force, to many others. Their population does not drop off like ours does, it never has "dead hours" as Anaire put it above.

And again, as stated before, it's not Oceanic people doing this, it's a German guild. Our population is almost completely Europeans. We have nowhere near as many Oceanic/NA/SA/Central players as NA does.

Yeah, Vivec on NA doesn't really ever "die". There are still plenty of people to fight at any hour of the day. I'm central US time, and I can find fights any hour I end up being on. Sometimes I wake up at 4am and play for a couple of hours before I have to take care of irl responsibilities, and there's plenty of fights happening. Sometimes I'm on at 1am, 3am, 9am, etc etc. Always fights. CP camp never really dies.

And how you would explain it by other means than timezones of players on a megaserver.

The problem of the EU-server? It's purely player behaviour.

So where should i pull the players to fight 30 ad at 8 in the morning from?

It´s not like the people online don´t def. The problem is that sometimes the people online are like me and three others against a full raid.

How is that player behavior and not population imbalance?

You don't. You simply can't. And as this game is made for large-scale(at least that's te intention, how poorly it works is a different story).

Player behaviour causes population imbalance. AD has been winning that campaign straight for over a year - of course people that plays for the campaign joins the winning side. Why would you join the losing side and play for the campaign?

It's the same on Sotha Sil on EU/PC. At least it was - until DC took over the nightcapping business and turned populations around a bit(whch is good). EP had Sotha/Azura for months - Map would be 100% red at 8 in the morning with a group of 24+ ready to defend a resource. Or stack 2 organised raids at 13.00 just to capture the last scroll-keep. When EP wpuld be on high - and AD on low with DC on medium sometimes.

It's the same. People join the winning side. Why? I got no clue. There could be numerous reasons.

Alucardo

Glamdring wrote: »

@Alucardo, are u AD? since DC nightcaps almost every night.

Every time DC has capped the map, the population has always been the same. When AD does it, they are 1 or 2 bars ahead of everyone else.

Alucardo

Streega wrote: »

Now, if you are saying that it is one German guild who does the thing, why don't you bring your lazy asses to face them?

Because 3 to 4 people can't fight this

Nermy

Alucardo wrote: »

Glamdring wrote: »

@Alucardo, are u AD? since DC nightcaps almost every night.

Every time DC has capped the map, the population has always been the same. When AD does it, they are 1 or 2 bars ahead of everyone else.

Then they lose everything in prime time, says a lot really.