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[EU/PC] Vivec - Can we lock the gates between 12:00 and 06:00 or something please?
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I'm tired of waking up at 5am, stepping out to alma ruma gate to take in the morning Cyrodiil air, and getting steamrolled by 50 AD. Locking the gates probably isn't the best solution, but come on, enough is enough.
There's still not usually enough DC on to defend at 06:00, but at least it would give the ones that are a small fighting chance to try and hold them back. Or perhaps buffing the guards between those hours.
I don't really care what you do, but it's no fun when you log off because there's simply nothing you can do except run in and give them free AP.
There's still not usually enough DC on to defend at 06:00, but at least it would give the ones that are a small fighting chance to try and hold them back. Or perhaps buffing the guards between those hours.
I don't really care what you do, but it's no fun when you log off because there's simply nothing you can do except run in and give them free AP.
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✭✭✭✭✭So people who work on different time shift or timezone should not be able to play Cyrodill like they want in their free time ?
Does not seem right to me.13 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So people who work on different time shift or timezone should not be able to play Cyrodill like they want in their free time ?
Does not seem right to me.
They can still PvDoor, zerg down the remaining players that didn't rage quit, and do whatever else they want. Anyway, like I said, it's probably not the best solution, but I'm open to alternatives. It's a discussion after all.1 -
MLRPZ✭✭✭✭✭So people who work on different time shift or timezone should not be able to play Cyrodill like they want in their free time ?
Does not seem right to me.
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✭✭✭✭✭Kinda have to accept that you have people who play from all around the world. We can't help it that we're playing at a time when a lot of people aren't. This game was marketed and sold internationally and there's no reason to cripple the game for those of us who can try play peak hours for server location.2 -
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✭Kinda have to accept that you have people who play from all around the world. We can't help it that we're playing at a time when a lot of people aren't. This game was marketed and sold internationally and there's no reason to cripple the game for those of us who can try play peak hours for server location.
Pls Stop it. Its not the NA server. We dont have ppl from all around the world.
The guys that destroy the map on PC EU is a german guild and he only invite german player in the morning.5 -
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✭✭The guys that destroy the map on PC EU is a german guild and he only invite german player in the morning.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah we have people from all over the world on EU too.
And you also have people who are not on the day shift and so on.
I have no good solution to this problem. Thought about it. My idea is to keep it the way it is or propose a minor adjustment but I didn't find which one yet.
In the idea of your system, People on different timezone could register to zos not to get the penalty applied to EU players but that would create another bunch of issues and not solve the people with different working times.
Edited by Morgul667 on July 10, 2017 7:15AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭dynamic population caps.<Noricum>
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS and the PVP Devhave never addressed this and probably never will . They don't care about campaign politics or score .2 -
Magıc✭✭✭✭✭Lol. It's not "people from around the world" it's a German guild who like to wake up at 5AM and paint the map yellow. They are 2 bar population at 5-6AM some days running 50 man trains through keeps/gates.6
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mmmm more like you think ZoS wants to tell X percent of their customers they cant play when they want on the faction they want because its "not fair"
I don't know about EU, but on NA this happens in phases to every faction. right now its just not DC's time, or on NA, AD's. The time will come again.2 -
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mmmm more like you think ZoS wants to tell X percent of their customers they cant play when they want on the faction they want because its "not fair"
I don't know about EU, but on NA this happens in phases to every faction. right now its just not DC's time, or on NA, AD's. The time will come again.
Its every morning for the last 4 months or so? Its a real problem for EU playerbase3 -
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mmmm more like you think ZoS wants to tell X percent of their customers they cant play when they want on the faction they want because its "not fair"
I don't know about EU, but on NA this happens in phases to every faction. right now its just not DC's time, or on NA, AD's. The time will come again.
AD has won the populated CP30 day campaign for more than 9 months straight with atleast 20% point difference to second place because of night/early morning cap.
Something IS needed to compensate.
Seriously your campaign is competetive. Why do you come and post here. It says in the title vivec PC EU.
There is no competition. The campaign isn´t close. It´s literally ad being atleast 5000 more often close to 10000 points ahead of the 2nd place faction (the same thing happens on nonCP for DC atm where they´re literally doubling points of 2nd faction).
This is happening for almost a year. People are fed up.
Just don´t tell us it´s not a problem because it´s not a problem on your server. The world does not revolve around you.Edited by Derra on July 10, 2017 8:14AM<Noricum>
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mmmm more like you think ZoS wants to tell X percent of their customers they cant play when they want on the faction they want because its "not fair"
I don't know about EU, but on NA this happens in phases to every faction. right now its just not DC's time, or on NA, AD's. The time will come again.
Its every morning for the last 4 months or so? Its a real problem for EU playerbase
I don´t think ad has lost even one 30 day CP campaign since 1 tamriel released.
Ep won the last time before azura got converted to nonCP.
No idea about DC. It´s been a while.Edited by Derra on July 10, 2017 8:25AM<Noricum>
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Vilestride✭✭✭✭✭You're pretty frustrated about this aye? I dunno about this revolving world stuff but I am saying dynamic population lock is not going to be the answer. Sure its a fairer solution, just not an economical one. No doubt having a frustrated player base isn't economical either its just...less detrimental.0
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✭✭✭I feel bad reading these posts, because the PC/EU server has been complaining about this to ZoS for quite some time and you all haven't received a response. If ZoS wants to encourage a competitive and healthy PvP environment on your server, they need to step in. I hope they do /:Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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Magıc✭✭✭✭✭DC last won Vivec/Trueflame when Hexys had guildies flipping resources 2 minutes before scoring (this was towards the end of last year IIRC). And even then, DC just about won. After that campaign, and even before that campaign, AD has won every campaign by a stupid amount of points. I doubt Zos will ever do anything, even though it is ridiculous.4
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✭✭✭✭✭You're pretty frustrated about this aye? I dunno about this revolving world stuff but I am saying dynamic population lock is not going to be the answer. Sure its a fairer solution, just not an economical one. No doubt having a frustrated player base isn't economical either its just...less detrimental.
tbh i can´t imagine anything more detrimental than a pvp environment players do not want to play in. Which is basically the case for non primetime - because that means dead pvp.<Noricum>
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✭✭✭✭✭Add dynamic scoring mechanics based on the lowest population between the 3 factions.
While dynimac scoring would help creating a more balanced campaign score in the end it would do absolutely nothing to help with the situation of unequal playernumbers during off hours.
People don´t like to loose while they´re playing (campaign only being the grand scheme in the background). They might loose the campaign but atleast they can def glade/arrius while outnumbering attackers 2:1 and win that.
You either have to punish the dominant realm by more than campaign score (you need something the individual player feels) or you have to outright prevent the situation from happening.<Noricum>
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✭No oceanic people on EU? That's a big lie. I know a lot of aussies currently playing on EU-server, let's not forget the people I know that I know plays from the countries between south/north-america(wtf is that area called in English?). EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).
Sure - capping the map at 06.00 shouldn't be a thing - but it still is. And tbf, there's not much ZoS can do about it. Locking the campaigns / prevent keeps from flipping would discriminate people from specific regions or people that work shifts.
I like the idea of low score / pop bonus, but it currently doesn't work very well. As long as one faction doesn't have 2 bars less players throughout the entier day, it won't kick in.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).
I´m sorry but - wat?
US alone has a 3 hour time difference between east- and westcoast (eu as britain on a 1 hour time difference).
They have no sharp primetime peak of 3 hours like EU has.
They also have no as drastic population drop during off hours.
Nobody is even saying EU has the issues NA does. People say NA does not have the issues EU does not in terms of timezones - but in distribution of playerbase during non primetime.
Do you even read what you post sometimes?
And more importantly: Have you ever played not AD in the morning/noon since one tamriel released?Edited by Derra on July 10, 2017 9:59AM<Noricum>
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✭You can thank Zenimax for all of this, whether it's intentional or not.
When you make numbers the only thing that matters... when you make dumb zerging more fun and far more rewarding than being on the receiving end of said zerging, 80% of cyrodiil just stacks on 1 alliance and this is exactly what happens, with the other 2 alliances being completely helpless to the mindless number pushing and just giving up.
Screw artifical solutions like dynamic pop caps or whatever. PvP balance needs to be redone from the ground up with a balance team that actually plays their own game.3 -
Rin_Senya✭✭✭✭Main campaign on NA never has completely "dead" hours, there is always some action going on because of Oceanic/Japan guilds and players. The situation is completely different on EU, often there are times with just 8-10 people on one faction (yes I'm talking about Vivec!) in the whole map and yes there is a huge problem atm with nightcap and morningcap on main campaign.Anairi ~ EP | NA | AR50 - Dracarys
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Magıc✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »No oceanic people on EU? That's a big lie. I know a lot of aussies currently playing on EU-server, let's not forget the people I know that I know plays from the countries between south/north-america(wtf is that area called in English?). EU has the exact same issue as NA does, in terms of time-zones(in a smaller-scale though probably).
Sure - capping the map at 06.00 shouldn't be a thing - but it still is. And tbf, there's not much ZoS can do about it. Locking the campaigns / prevent keeps from flipping would discriminate people from specific regions or people that work shifts.
I like the idea of low score / pop bonus, but it currently doesn't work very well. As long as one faction doesn't have 2 bars less players throughout the entier day, it won't kick in.
No, it really does not lmao. I've played NA, I've spoke to people who play NA from Anaire, to Force, to many others. Their population does not drop off like ours does, it never has "dead hours" as Anaire put it above.
And again, as stated before, it's not Oceanic people doing this, it's a German guild. Our population is almost completely Europeans. We have nowhere near as many Oceanic/NA/SA/Central players as NA does.5
