Do You Plan On Homing Shor Campaign Jul 10

Morgul667

No - I will stay on my current campaign, or simply Guest on Shor

Im staying on sotha sil as main

Will come have a look once in a while

Rickter

Lord_Hev wrote: »

But if we can come together and make the effort, I believe the emp trading can be thwarted.

This is really encouraging to hear from you. Its been 2 years so I hope youve turned a new leaf. I'm actually starting to like you. @Lord_Hev

NBrookus

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Speaking from experience from the problems of old Haderus, what will make or break Shor is a consistent oceanic population across all 3 factions. I'm also very aware that this is a very delicate line to draw and balance. But if we can come together and make the effort, I believe the emp trading can be thwarted.

Starting out with the predetermined mind state of "it will just be an emp farming server" is destructive and will ultimately lead to such a conclusion. We need to make a collective effort here to make this work.

We do need oceanic players. I don't know how to attract them when Vivec is a good campaign outside of prime time.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler Would you consider removing the emperor throne housing item? The release of that item largely drove the start of emp selling that made the old Haderus degenerate by creating a market for it. If the trading guilds selling emperor achieves set up shop in Shor, it will be difficult for regular players to resolve. And once there's a bad reputation for the campaign it will be hard to attract new players.

What's the scope of this potential problem? This is going on in Almalexia...


Not whispers to me, btw.

Alucardo

No - I will stay on my current campaign, or simply Guest on Shor

I'll stay home on Vivec because my play times are kind of all over the place, and I know I can always find action on Vivec. I'll definitely be guesting on Shor, though. Most nights I don't even bother loading up ESO because the queue time on Vivec is atrocious, but now I can just jump into Shor while I wait. I do miss Haderus a lot, as corrupt as it was.

Rickter

500usd for the emperor achievement?! @NBrookus

Come on ZOS - get this under control. Do the right thing with Shor. you tried noCP primary focus for the streamer elite, now please try this for the rest of us that actually play your game without personal monetary gain.

Rohamad_Ali

Other - Please Explain

I have to see where Our guild leader goes . I just follow orders .

Montayva

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

I believe that picture was also for the perma emp title which someone will be granted when the old campaign closes. But none the less, both @NBrookus and I were both offered gold in the old Haderus at some point so we would drop the top spot and allow the next person to get emp aka emp trade.

What happened to the good old days when an individual and guild used to have to work hard for such thing? Emp titles dont seem to mean squat these days. Its kind of sad

arkansas_ESO

NBrookus wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Speaking from experience from the problems of old Haderus, what will make or break Shor is a consistent oceanic population across all 3 factions. I'm also very aware that this is a very delicate line to draw and balance. But if we can come together and make the effort, I believe the emp trading can be thwarted.

Starting out with the predetermined mind state of "it will just be an emp farming server" is destructive and will ultimately lead to such a conclusion. We need to make a collective effort here to make this work.

We do need oceanic players. I don't know how to attract them when Vivec is a good campaign outside of prime time.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler Would you consider removing the emperor throne housing item? The release of that item largely drove the start of emp selling that made the old Haderus degenerate by creating a market for it. If the trading guilds selling emperor achieves set up shop in Shor, it will be difficult for regular players to resolve. And once there's a bad reputation for the campaign it will be hard to attract new players.

What's the scope of this potential problem? This is going on in Almalexia...


Not whispers to me, btw.

The person that's offering $500 USD in that screenshot is #2 on EP's leaderboards, and trying to pay #1 on EP to drop campaign so they can get emp when the campaign closes to keep the title forever. They're also glitching out of the map to trade kills so that people can't come by and kill them:

(edit: since leaderboard positions change, the person that's trying to buy perma emp's name starts with an E)



The crossed swords to the bottom left of the map were constantly disappearing and reappearing for hours, and the person in that whisper screenshot was consistently gaining 200k-250k AP an hour on the leaderboards even when it's 4 A.M. and the map is completely red (they're EP as well which means there's nothing for them to be taking, and there's not enough people online to farm that much AP by camping DC/AD gates.) The perma emp of Had did the same stuff to get #1.

Montayva

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

He seems pretty desperate for that title

Montayva

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Speaking from experience from the problems of old Haderus, what will make or break Shor is a consistent oceanic population across all 3 factions. I'm also very aware that this is a very delicate line to draw and balance. But if we can come together and make the effort, I believe the emp trading can be thwarted.

Starting out with the predetermined mind state of "it will just be an emp farming server" is destructive and will ultimately lead to such a conclusion. We need to make a collective effort here to make this work.

We do need oceanic players. I don't know how to attract them when Vivec is a good campaign outside of prime time.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler Would you consider removing the emperor throne housing item? The release of that item largely drove the start of emp selling that made the old Haderus degenerate by creating a market for it. If the trading guilds selling emperor achieves set up shop in Shor, it will be difficult for regular players to resolve. And once there's a bad reputation for the campaign it will be hard to attract new players.

What's the scope of this potential problem? This is going on in Almalexia...


Not whispers to me, btw.

The person that's offering $500 USD in that screenshot is #2 on EP's leaderboards, and trying to pay #1 on EP to drop campaign so they can get emp when the campaign closes to keep the title forever. They're also glitching out of the map to trade kills so that people can't come by and kill them:



The crossed swords to the bottom left of the map were constantly disappearing and reappearing for hours, and the person in that whisper screenshot was consistently gaining 200k-250k AP an hour on the leaderboards even when it's 4 A.M. and the map is completely red (they're EP as well which means there's nothing for them to be taking, and there's not enough people online to farm that much AP by camping DC/AD gates.) The perma emp of Had did the same stuff to get #1.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler would offering RL cash be against TOS?

I know selling gold and items is... but being offered it?

Rickter

Political positions being bought is a real life hostorical practice

NightbladeMechanics

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Is Shor what they decided to call it? I haven't been paying attention.

If history repeats itself, Shor will be home to emp traders and all those who resist lag and care little for campaign scoring and wins, just as Had was before Morrowind.

Faction balance will seldom exist, as groups will log in en masse to wash the map with numbers, then promptly log out upon their first wipe. People will trade vending machine emps with their zerg guilds by night, then get *** on in their potato emp groups come daylight. Small groups will post up in resource towers as far away from each other as physically possible, trembling at the thought of a challenge. And IC will flip color to color as farm groups do their rounds, thirsty predators feeding on their weak links.

Here's to hoping history does not repeat itself, but even with many people's frustrations over Vivec's high queues and lag, I don't see Shor receiving a numerous enough influx of players to be competitive.

I honestly can't wait, though. I do enjoy the chaos. You never knew what to expect each week with Haddy.

Rohamad_Ali

Other - Please Explain

Did I really see someone offer $500 for Emperorship ? Ok that is officially the dumbest thing I've seen in a video game .

NBrookus

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Did I really see someone offer $500 for Emperorship ? Ok that is officially the dumbest thing I've seen in a video game .

It's for the perma-emp title when the campaign closes. This person has already been emperor -- and didn't get there by legitimate means from what I've been told. I've been asked to come help block them, but without a strong DC or AD contender it seems unlikely for a few extra hands to make a difference.

As yes, I was offered a considerable sum to drop my first emp push in favor of someone doing nothing but farming his guildies in a delve for hours... surprise, surprise, it was from one of the trade guilds busy making gold selling emp achieves now.

Alucardo

No - I will stay on my current campaign, or simply Guest on Shor

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

I honestly can't wait, though. I do enjoy the chaos. You never knew what to expect each week with Haddy.

The juicy drama made it worth logging onto Haderus every day.

KaraBela94

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Banana Split and Tomato Juice incoming

Montayva

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

NBrookus wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Did I really see someone offer $500 for Emperorship ? Ok that is officially the dumbest thing I've seen in a video game .

It's for the perma-emp title when the campaign closes. This person has already been emperor -- and didn't get there by legitimate means from what I've been told. I've been asked to come help block them, but without a strong DC or AD contender it seems unlikely for a few extra hands to make a difference.

As yes, I was offered a considerable sum to drop my first emp push in favor of someone doing nothing but farming his guildies in a delve for hours... surprise, surprise, it was from one of the trade guilds busy making gold selling emp achieves now.

Ugh I sincerely hope that said trade guild doesn't try and destroy Shor with their Emp achieve selling

Lord_Hev

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Rickter wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

But if we can come together and make the effort, I believe the emp trading can be thwarted.

This is really encouraging to hear from you. Its been 2 years so I hope youve turned a new leaf. I'm actually starting to like you. @Lord_Hev

I have always been an opponent, and an opportunistic predator of Emp traders, and Emp trade guilds. I'm more then happy to be a thorn in the side of any EP guild that tries to pull that **** on Shor. Same goes to AD and DC. I will swap to EP if any AD guild tries to go that route like DiG did for a month or so on old Haderus.


That said, i'm more then happy to set aside the rivalry we've had in the past. Let's bury that and move on, shall we?

leepalmer95

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

And people wonder why i dont care about emp/ scoring anymore.

The level its dropped too is just pathetic, big zerg guilds have destroyed that aspect of pvp.

DisgracefulMind

No - I will stay on my current campaign, or simply Guest on Shor

I will still be homing Vivec in my day hours, but I plan to play Shor in primetime to avoid the mess that is Vivec primetime. I feel if more players do the same, Shor may see some healthy PvP.

Rickter

Lord_Hev wrote: »

That said, i'm more then happy to set aside the rivalry we've had in the past. Let's bury that and move on, shall we?

Yeah man. I'll bury it. Like i said in the other thread, i guess i have more to thank you for than hate you for. See you on Shor.

Montayva

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

leepalmer95 wrote: »

And people wonder why i dont care about emp/ scoring anymore.

The level its dropped too is just pathetic, big zerg guilds have destroyed that aspect of pvp.

I think it's when large raids take the full group to go Zerg back a single resource on a home keep which is probably just one guy trying to escape the zergs on the frontline.

Morbash

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Rickter wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

That said, i'm more then happy to set aside the rivalry we've had in the past. Let's bury that and move on, shall we?

Yeah man. I'll bury it. Like i said in the other thread, i guess i have more to thank you for than hate you for. See you on Shor.

AWWW YIIIIISSS! Spread the love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I

Lord_Hev

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

All this love be making my cold heart all warm and fuzzy. What dark magicks is this?

NightbladeMechanics

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

2/10 forum PvP in this thread.

Rickter

welp first impressions of Shor are bad. its 10:15PM EST - this is Vivec primetime and I was expecting this to be an overflow server. Where are you? all i see is EP zergs. straight up ZERGS. me? i had 5 at my peak group number.

oh look the EP emperor is gate pushing DC. but not AD. I homed here. Thats me not "ceding the campaign" thats me giving this a chance. I said this was going to be a fake campaign and so far, its gotten to that start.

Lord_Hev

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Rickter wrote: »

welp first impressions of Shor are bad. its 10:15PM EST - this is Vivec primetime and I was expecting this to be an overflow server. Where are you? all i see is EP zergs. straight up ZERGS. me? i had 5 at my peak group number.

oh look the EP emperor is gate pushing DC. but not AD. I homed here. Thats me not "ceding the campaign" thats me giving this a chance. I said this was going to be a fake campaign and so far, its gotten to that start.

Early quits is not going to help. Persistence is what is going to win this fight. I'm sure over the week more AD and DC will join and balance things out, gotta give it a solid go.

NBrookus

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

First day emps aren't unusual, but I was disappointed that we had two emps today.
I was disappointed that DC didn't even try to light Ales or Ash while EP was hammering a few pugs at Alessia to crown.
I was disappointed to see DC push Brindle and Roe while most of AD was trying to dethrone, in what looked like an attempt to go for a 3rd emp in one day.
I was disappointed, but not surprised, to see EP pushing DCs trikeeps and Faregyl.

But all in all, I rarely lagged (only anytime I died ), didn't have a queue, didn't have to deal with the giant destro trains on Vivec and had some good small group fights. So I'm happier than I was last week.

Rickter

NBrookus wrote: »

First day emps aren't unusual, but I was disappointed that we had two emps today.
I was disappointed that DC didn't even try to light Ales or Ash while EP was hammering a few pugs at Alessia to crown.
I was disappointed to see DC push Brindle and Roe while most of AD was trying to dethrone, in what looked like an attempt to go for a 3rd emp in one day.
I was disappointed, but not surprised, to see EP pushing DCs trikeeps and Faregyl.

But all in all, I rarely lagged (only anytime I died ), didn't have a queue, didn't have to deal with the giant destro trains on Vivec and had some good small group fights. So I'm happier than I was last week.

Im sorry for your disappointment, @NBrookus

But i think it may be a bit unfounded. I led a pug group and guild group from 7:35PM-until you see that screen shot. There was probably 7 DC on during that entire time frame. We did push Ales. and Bruma, and Dragonclaw. Got zerged down every time. Then we had EP 1vXers back capping all three resources for the few keeps we did have and blocking transit. Coupled with the fact that grouping was in fact broken for a solid hour and a half and i was stuck in a group with one other guy that was offline most of the time due to getting kicked from the game and trying to lead my 5 man through ZONE CHAT.

yeah, sorry for the disappointment.

Anyways, no one said i was going to quit. I HOMED. and I only use AP for siege so i wont be moving off but first impressions: this server looks just like Almalexia. The Vivec crowd are not taking advantage of it like they said they would and I was right. I was right about BGs and I was right about Shor.

If this campaign was going to be taken seriously, the Homing guilds would have pushed for the campaign. but again, as i said, they arent here for that. fake campaign is fake campaign.

Montayva

Yes - I plan on Homing Shor

Its early days, not even the weekend yet. And PTS just updated. Its likely a lot of people are busy testing and trying out new stuffs.

Not sure if its intended or not, but anytime you crash, log off or are disconnected for even the briefest time, you are kicked out of cyrodiil and have to que back in, regardless of population (Well this happened for 3 of my group members today so not sure if its everyone or just us). So, if this is intended, weekends will see a lot of overflow from Vivec if ques there persist.