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Regarding animation cancelling...
Tykune
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Animation Cancelling has been an issue that plagued quite a few MMOs, and quite frankly it seems that most companies have not cared enough to resolve this issue, and have instead just left it alone. It is one of the factors that tend to kill PvP, next to macros and such. While macros are not as much of an issue, animation cancelling is a cancer that tends to lead most MMOs down a road in which skill matters less and less.
Unfortunately, ESO is one of those games in which animation cancelling has been rampant since beta, and people have abused it to attain higher ranks, more damage, and disgracefully, the emperor title. As it still seems to be an issue today like many issues that have existed since beta, it seems that ZeniMax does not care to resolve this issue.. whether it be just neglect or something that simply cannot be fixed due to imperfect mechanics.
This here is a link to how animation cancelling is done, though I am not linking this so they could be used, it is to raise awareness of how this issue it being manipulated to lessen the necessity of skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLZzGoPp9Ug
As I was just coming back to play ESO once more due to Morrowind and Homestead, I was immediately turned off from playing again after finding out that these abusive exploits existed, and probably will never come back unless something is done about it. If you enjoy doing such things, do enjoy them.. but I will not be taking part in it.
Unfortunately, ESO is one of those games in which animation cancelling has been rampant since beta, and people have abused it to attain higher ranks, more damage, and disgracefully, the emperor title. As it still seems to be an issue today like many issues that have existed since beta, it seems that ZeniMax does not care to resolve this issue.. whether it be just neglect or something that simply cannot be fixed due to imperfect mechanics.
This here is a link to how animation cancelling is done, though I am not linking this so they could be used, it is to raise awareness of how this issue it being manipulated to lessen the necessity of skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLZzGoPp9UgAs I was just coming back to play ESO once more due to Morrowind and Homestead, I was immediately turned off from playing again after finding out that these abusive exploits existed, and probably will never come back unless something is done about it. If you enjoy doing such things, do enjoy them.. but I will not be taking part in it.
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Shad0wfire99✭✭✭✭✭
✭Another "animation cancelling is an exploit" thread. Kill me.Edited by Shad0wfire99 on June 22, 2017 1:44AM
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Tykune✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.4 -
Shad0wfire99✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
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Tykune✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.1 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.2 -
Tykune✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its not an exploit if the devs say its ok...
Its not hard just spend 5 mins learning to do it or cry somewhere else please. Sick of these threads now days.vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Tell me more how ani cancelling lets me proc viper or red mountain faster... because it doesn't.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭No *** way, another thread?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/337289/animation-cancelling-is-about-to-be-changed-dramatically
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/347093/animation-canceling-causes-all-delays-to-be-ignored-when-attacks-are-replicated-to-remote-clients
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/347402/oh-no-not-another-anti-animation-cancel-thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/345077/can-somebody-explain-whats-the-big-deal-with-animation-cancelling
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/351187/animation-cancelling-possible-fix
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/321846/animation-canceling-my-point-of-view-and-reflection-on-the-subject
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/231468/a-desperate-plea-for-zos-please-remove-animation-cancelling
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/205343/the-problem-isnt-macros-its-animation-cancelling-and-we-might-be-stuck-with-it
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/332406/is-animation-cancelling-a-feature-not-a-bug
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/242879/this-whole-animation-cancel-macro-problem-is-getting-out-of-hand
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/257245/remove-animation-cancelling
Ya, don't think you got anything new about itWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
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Tykune✭✭✭No *** way, another thread?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/337289/animation-cancelling-is-about-to-be-changed-dramatically
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/347093/animation-canceling-causes-all-delays-to-be-ignored-when-attacks-are-replicated-to-remote-clients
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/347402/oh-no-not-another-anti-animation-cancel-thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/345077/can-somebody-explain-whats-the-big-deal-with-animation-cancelling
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/351187/animation-cancelling-possible-fix
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/321846/animation-canceling-my-point-of-view-and-reflection-on-the-subject
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/231468/a-desperate-plea-for-zos-please-remove-animation-cancelling
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/205343/the-problem-isnt-macros-its-animation-cancelling-and-we-might-be-stuck-with-it
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/332406/is-animation-cancelling-a-feature-not-a-bug
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/242879/this-whole-animation-cancel-macro-problem-is-getting-out-of-hand
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/257245/remove-animation-cancelling
Ya, don't think you got anything new about it
Well, I am certain I will not be the last. Given how many people have been posting about it, you'd think that ZeniMax would get the hint that quite a few people do not like it.4 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
I get by with a little help from logic.1 -
Tykune✭✭✭Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.0 -
Tykune✭✭✭Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!
You're including players who don't even bother to visit the forums or don't even know what animation cancelling is, let alone heard of it. Nice try, though.0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!
You're including players who don't even bother to visit the forums or don't even know what animation cancelling is, let alone heard of it. Nice try, though.
Yet you still don't know how base game mechanics work!
Yet you'll make a rage thread on the basis of your misinformation.
You'll fit right into this forum.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Roovin✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Its been there since forever. It isn't hurting the game any.0 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!
You're including players who don't even bother to visit the forums or don't even know what animation cancelling is, let alone heard of it. Nice try, though.
If it's so clearly bad for the game, then how would they have 7 million players the majority of which don't even know what it is? Or is the very premise of your post based on bs, iced with ignorance, and coated with a strange dose of self-import?Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
I get by with a little help from logic.2 -
Tykune✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!
You're including players who don't even bother to visit the forums or don't even know what animation cancelling is, let alone heard of it. Nice try, though.
Yet you still don't know how base game mechanics work!
Yet you'll make a rage thread on the basis of your misinformation.
You'll fit right into this forum.
I'm not raging? I just pointed out it's flaws and why it is toxic for the game in general. I am more disappointed than angry with it's existence, but in regards to misinformation, you can continue making assumptions if you wish.1 -
SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
It stop being an exploit when devs acknowledge it's an intended feature. What else you got.
When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
Tykune✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Its been there since forever. It isn't hurting the game any.
It was not as widely used earlier in the game, but the more commonly it gets used, the more it will become an issue.0 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Id imagine with the cooldowns it actually wouldn't. anyway doesn't change the fact. When choosing between something that takes no skill at all and makes the game worse. And something that takes some practice and makes the game worse. Im still voting proc sets the greater evil.
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SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!
You're including players who don't even bother to visit the forums or don't even know what animation cancelling is, let alone heard of it. Nice try, though.
Yet you still don't know how base game mechanics work!
Yet you'll make a rage thread on the basis of your misinformation.
You'll fit right into this forum.
I'm not raging? I just pointed out it's flaws and why it is toxic for the game in general. I am more disappointed than angry with it's existence, but in regards to misinformation, you can continue making assumptions if you wish.
Literally doesn't know the base game mechanics. Posts threads anyway
Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
I get by with a little help from logic.3 -
Crafts_Many_Boxes✭✭✭✭✭So just to play devil's advocate here, has anyone actually read the comments on that youtube video? I know people tend to respond with negative criticisms more than positive ones online, but if those comments are a large enough sample size, and they reflect an outsider opinion of the "feature".....well, go read the comments lol.3
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Tykune✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
It stop being an exploit when devs acknowledge it's an intended feature. What else you got.
The devs didn't acknowledge it as an intended feature, as I will quote from one of them, they 'embraced' it.. meaning it was not intended, but they will keep it around anyways and people will not get reprimanded for using it.0 -
SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!
You're including players who don't even bother to visit the forums or don't even know what animation cancelling is, let alone heard of it. Nice try, though.
Yet you still don't know how base game mechanics work!
Yet you'll make a rage thread on the basis of your misinformation.
You'll fit right into this forum.
I'm not raging? I just pointed out it's flaws and why it is toxic for the game in general.
You are yet to point out how and in which way it's toxic.When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
SwaminoNowlino✭✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Id imagine with the cooldowns it actually wouldn't. anyway doesn't change the fact. When choosing between something that takes no skill at all and makes the game worse. And something that takes some practice and makes the game worse. Im still voting proc sets the greater evil.
Except proc sets have a cool down stated specifically in their tooltip and no amount of AC or anything will bypass that (well except for selenes lol)Edited by SwaminoNowlino on June 22, 2017 2:17AMXbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden
"We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
- And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!
I get by with a little help from logic.0 -
Tykune✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Id imagine with the cooldowns it actually wouldn't. anyway doesn't change the fact. When choosing between something that takes no skill at all and makes the game worse. And something that takes some practice and makes the game worse. Im still voting proc sets the greater evil.
I would disagree, but people are entitled to their opinions in the matter. I do not see much of an issue with set procs as they usually tend to occur by chance, while animation cancelling occurs much more consistently, allowing it to be much more of an issue in my opinion.0 -
Tykune✭✭✭SwaminoNowlino wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Psycho_Wes wrote: »*** PvP.
How is PvP these days? I haven't played in a while so I do not know if any changes have been done to it.SwaminoNowlino wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
In b4 someone posts the clip of Wrobel saying they like it in their game. No longer an exploit.
L2P - Thing you should do.
It is not a matter of learning to play with it, it is a matter of refusing to use it. If they wish to embrace it, then that is their call, but that will only hurt their game more than cause any amount of benefit.
Hey! 7 million players or whatever it is now disagrees with you!!vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I figure as long as proc sets are in the game how upset can I get about animation canceling? At least to cancel the player on the other side had to do something extra. A proc set they had to do nothing extra at all.
Animation cancelling would allow people to proc sets faster. Overall, it kills competitive gameplay, and if developers have embraced it then it just means they cannot fix it, or just refuse to fix it.
Hey! You don't understand how the base game mechanics work!
You're including players who don't even bother to visit the forums or don't even know what animation cancelling is, let alone heard of it. Nice try, though.
Yet you still don't know how base game mechanics work!
Yet you'll make a rage thread on the basis of your misinformation.
You'll fit right into this forum.
I'm not raging? I just pointed out it's flaws and why it is toxic for the game in general. I am more disappointed than angry with it's existence, but in regards to misinformation, you can continue making assumptions if you wish.
Literally doesn't know the base game mechanics. Posts threads anyway
Literally makes assumptions on a thread and gets called out for making assumptions, still makes assumptions on the same thread. 0 -
Demycilian✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Another "animation cancelling is and exploit" thread. Kill me.
Exploit-
In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.
It stop being an exploit when devs acknowledge it's an intended feature. What else you got.
The devs didn't acknowledge it as an intended feature, as I will quote from one of them, they 'embraced' it.. meaning it was not intended, but they will keep it around anyways and people will not get reprimanded for using it.
I think of it as devs being outmatched and underfunded and then use the emergency exit. ;0)Edited by Demycilian on June 22, 2017 2:20AM1
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