More oceanic AD needed - PC Vivec NA

Satiar

Auohildr Hjoras.... now, that's not a name I've heard in a long, long time.

Why on earth would you even hold on to a screenshot of me from 2 years ago thanking you for trying to help hold Arrius? That's some.... I wanna say dedication but I'm not sure it fits

Ghost-Shot

There's what 4 of us posting in here? And when toosk is making his rambling "I hate VE" posts are we not entitled to respond? And talk about triggered man, how many times can you mention us in one post lol.

Ilpagliaccio

Satiar wrote: »

Auohildr Hjoras.... now, that's not a name I've heard in a long, long time.

Why on earth would you even hold on to a screenshot of me from 2 years ago thanking you for trying to help hold Arrius? That's some.... I wanna say dedication but I'm not sure it fits

Less than 20 secs to successfully predict a group's character? Sounds like a win to me. Keep trying to deny stuff, VE. Always worth a top chuckle. Inb4 you guys try to deny watching EP zone chat after Crispen posted his photobucket with numerous screenshots of EP zone chat lololol

stealthyevil

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Yet, AD, who was/is able to field two full raids(RAM and Venatus) on a consistent basis somehow have a "woe is me" attitude about Oceanic population.

Quick side note, I am pretty sure the last time Venatus has ever filled a full raid was closer to launch. We have not had a group run since 2 - 3 days after the Morrowind launch, and at least a month prior to that. At most we have 4 players that play on a consistent basis.

Anyways, Oceanic PvP is pretty unbalanced period.

Ilpagliaccio

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

There's what 4 of us posting in here? And when toosk is making his rambling "I hate VE" posts are we not entitled to respond? And talk about triggered man, how many times can you mention us in one post lol.

When you guys want to zerg the forums, you lose the option to claim people are ranting about you whenever they mention you. Or do I get to counter with "hey, you guys are mentioning me while talking to me. Triggered". What a load of codswallop, like anything else VE has ever done ^_^

Also, trying to name and shame me by claiming I'm someone I'm not. Tssk tssk, turrible harassment there

Flake

stealthyevil wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Yet, AD, who was/is able to field two full raids(RAM and Venatus) on a consistent basis somehow have a "woe is me" attitude about Oceanic population.

Quick side note, I am pretty sure the last time Venatus has ever filled a full raid was closer to launch. We have not had a group run since 2 - 3 days after the Morrowind launch, and at least a month prior to that. At most we have 4 players that play on a consistent basis.

Anyways, Oceanic PvP is pretty unbalanced period.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

Texas

Satiar wrote: »

Auohildr Hjoras.... now, that's not a name I've heard in a long, long time.

Why on earth would you even hold on to a screenshot of me from 2 years ago thanking you for trying to help hold Arrius? That's some.... I wanna say dedication but I'm not sure it fits

Steve be careful and read this......


I'm sure he'll just reply with something along these lines though.....

Ghost-Shot

FFS Kirsi now we actually are zerging the forums.

Rohamad_Ali

@IxSTALKERxI what happened ? We were asking for a little help for the Dominion at night and now EP and DC are arguing about some stuff I don't understand .. Maybe we just need the night time guilds we do have to do some guild recruiting thread bumps .

HoloYoitsu

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

FFS Kirsi now we actually are zerging the forums.

Look Ghostbane, if you would just L2Meme already, I wouldn't have had to come in here.

Ixtyr

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE isn't talking about campaign issues but I am. If you would like to directly talk about what I'm saying you are more than welcome. Everything else is obviously salt that you have built up against VE. You would probably be a more happy person if you didn't keep all the hate and rage built up inside you. I'm sorry that VE has farmed you so many times that you feel the only way to get back at them is hide behind an anonymous game account not tied to your character.

Because you selectively choose when you are or are not part of a collective whether it benefits you during that point in time? Social groups don't work like a guild tabard, Crispen, I'm sorry about that. If you don't like that VE's past as guild almost wholly invalidates any of your opinions(yes, opinions) about campaigns, then I can understand your desperate urge to paint me as "salty"--which is the internet equivalent to "well, ur mum,m8". Also, if by farmed, you mean VE's performance against equal numbers of Dom Dom on multiple occasions, then sure those incidents were VE getting farmed. Was top quality entertainment for me, though. Anyway, I most definitely appreciate the concern of whether or not I got Xv1d by VE or not. It's a lovely sentiment, truly.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Well noone else has put in the level of tracking guild presence that I have so what does that make you? If my attempt is only half-assed I guess you are just a lazy ass. I feel most people thought my attempt was beneficial and appreciated the work I did each time I compiled the list. Each person is entitled to their opinion no matter how misguided it may be.

Here are those two threads I compiled one over a year ago and one a few months ago.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266730/pc-na-trueflame-and-haderus-know-thy-enemy-an-overview-of-guilds/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/332387/na-pc-what-pvp-guilds-are-still-active/p1

Here, I'll put the same level of effort that you put in: "Guilds I know exist [rabid speculation of their group size and an inaccurate portrait of which times they run] *leave it posted as such until guilds repeatedly try to correct my inaccurate claims and I do not acquiesce*"
There, I put as much effort into the endeavor as you did. Maybe VE leadership will whisper me yet again to ass-kiss and thank me for my dedication and thank me for trying or w/e else cringe-worthy things I'd get in whispers? I sure do love hearing SLURP when I check my whispers tab, thanks VE.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

So you are also a conspiracy theory nut, your resume just keeps growing.

Because RAM swapping to AD when VE conveniently swapped to AD isn't public knowledge? I'll be sure to shout "conspiracy theory" each time a known fact, which I don't like, is spoken about. Cates r bettr tahn doggos? CONSPIRACY THEORY!1!oneX1
Seriously, that's the weakest counter-argument I've ever seen on the internet.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE looks for good fights by playing the map. I am not VE's GM so I can't speak for our guild objectives. They change from time to time as different raid leads run into different situations. I also joined VE when they rerolled to DC at a time that DC needed strong competitive guilds. Most people realized along time ago that day and night crews win campaigns. Some still think otherwise you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how misguided you are.

If you're looking for good fights in empty keeps, then you're doing it wrong. Also, if you're not VE's GM, then why are you claiming what VE does objectives-wise? Considering that you claimed you cannot speak for your guild regarding objectives, it's quite hilarious to contradict yourself in the following sentence. Also, if you wanted to make a huge point of VE not speaking about campaign issues, you sure are positioning as a VE member here.

People most definitely do have control over winning,sorry. It's inherent in the design of Cyro. Claiming individuals have no say in how a Cyro cycle turns out is akin to lying on the ground at the supermarket and wailing about how you have no choice in which Capri Sun you buy. It's alright, get the Fruit Punch. You have a say, trust me.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Yes, Day and Night Crews have control over winning. Always has always will, as long as the scoring remains they way it is. Off hours is what wins campaign as there is no balance there. Primetime is a good competitive balance which is why it doesn't really matter. Once again if you think this is not true well once again you are entitled to your opinion.

I'll name two specific campaigns where that claim of yours is demonstrably false: Wabba 1 and the final cycle of TF. EP didn't have the dominate Oceanic or Day presence in either and won both. I understand how you want to speak from an antedoctal standpoint, and I'm wholly fine with that: however, you should realize that it ceases to be an opinion when it can proven to be utterly true. Also, I'm chuckling at someone trying argue from an anecdotal standpoint with me about Cyro campaigns. I've played way too many cycles and for way too many hours. I guarantee I know more about the minutiae of not only guild politics/drama but of populations/guilds, so come at me with that claim of yours based on anecdotal evidence. I'd love to laugh again.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

There is your conspiracy theory side coming out again. You should really get that checked. If you see a VE member on the field doesn't mean we are running with another guild. I love how yesterday that Tex and I were running a duo team at bleakers and EPs zone blew up about VE stacking raids at bleakers.

For someone who didn't want to speak on behalf of VE leadership, you sure are atm. Sorry, it was Zheg being crown for AK at Chal that piqued my interest. Or maybe AK was just magically following a VE raid lead and performing astronomically better in a purely random and unorchestrated event--and you were claiming I was the conspiracy theorist o.O. Raid leads will help other guilds out, Crispen, it's nothing new. No need to go full-blown Alex Jones over it.

Also, LOL @ having VE members so fixated about EP zone chat but yet having the audacity to claim others are conspiracy theorists.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Everything else you have to say just seems like salt directed at VE. I hope you realize it's not personal when you get farmed by VE. Just like below, you know you are the enemy.

For someone who hackusates people in whispers, you sure are fixated on the idea that anyone who opposes your in-group is "salty". Yes, I'm quite upset that VE make fools out of themselves, like rawr and stuff. Oh, I should explain that your EP zone chat fixation SS also revealed other fixations on your photobucket account, 10/10 top lol

Makes me chuckle that VE is so obsessed with EP zone chat while playing/leading raids on DC/AD that they watch EP zone chat too. Brought a tear to my eye with how the guild that claims they aren't trying to compete will watch EP zone chat. Like how insecure can one be? LOL

Make sure to whisper me to slurp slurp more about my dedication and trying,and whatever else cringe-worthy ish you've whispered me in the past, VE leadership. I'm anxiously awaiting your next round of blatant falsehoods--always worth a chuckle. Toodles until then

Kilandros

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE isn't talking about campaign issues but I am. If you would like to directly talk about what I'm saying you are more than welcome. Everything else is obviously salt that you have built up against VE. You would probably be a more happy person if you didn't keep all the hate and rage built up inside you. I'm sorry that VE has farmed you so many times that you feel the only way to get back at them is hide behind an anonymous game account not tied to your character.

Because you selectively choose when you are or are not part of a collective whether it benefits you during that point in time? Social groups don't work like a guild tabard, Crispen, I'm sorry about that. If you don't like that VE's past as guild almost wholly invalidates any of your opinions(yes, opinions) about campaigns, then I can understand your desperate urge to paint me as "salty"--which is the internet equivalent to "well, ur mum,m8". Also, if by farmed, you mean VE's performance against equal numbers of Dom Dom on multiple occasions, then sure those incidents were VE getting farmed. Was top quality entertainment for me, though. Anyway, I most definitely appreciate the concern of whether or not I got Xv1d by VE or not. It's a lovely sentiment, truly.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Well noone else has put in the level of tracking guild presence that I have so what does that make you? If my attempt is only half-assed I guess you are just a lazy ass. I feel most people thought my attempt was beneficial and appreciated the work I did each time I compiled the list. Each person is entitled to their opinion no matter how misguided it may be.

Here are those two threads I compiled one over a year ago and one a few months ago.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266730/pc-na-trueflame-and-haderus-know-thy-enemy-an-overview-of-guilds/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/332387/na-pc-what-pvp-guilds-are-still-active/p1

Here, I'll put the same level of effort that you put in: "Guilds I know exist [rabid speculation of their group size and an inaccurate portrait of which times they run] *leave it posted as such until guilds repeatedly try to correct my inaccurate claims and I do not acquiesce*"
There, I put as much effort into the endeavor as you did. Maybe VE leadership will whisper me yet again to ass-kiss and thank me for my dedication and thank me for trying or w/e else cringe-worthy things I'd get in whispers? I sure do love hearing SLURP when I check my whispers tab, thanks VE.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

So you are also a conspiracy theory nut, your resume just keeps growing.

Because RAM swapping to AD when VE conveniently swapped to AD isn't public knowledge? I'll be sure to shout "conspiracy theory" each time a known fact, which I don't like, is spoken about. Cates r bettr tahn doggos? CONSPIRACY THEORY!1!oneX1
Seriously, that's the weakest counter-argument I've ever seen on the internet.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE looks for good fights by playing the map. I am not VE's GM so I can't speak for our guild objectives. They change from time to time as different raid leads run into different situations. I also joined VE when they rerolled to DC at a time that DC needed strong competitive guilds. Most people realized along time ago that day and night crews win campaigns. Some still think otherwise you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how misguided you are.

If you're looking for good fights in empty keeps, then you're doing it wrong. Also, if you're not VE's GM, then why are you claiming what VE does objectives-wise? Considering that you claimed you cannot speak for your guild regarding objectives, it's quite hilarious to contradict yourself in the following sentence. Also, if you wanted to make a huge point of VE not speaking about campaign issues, you sure are positioning as a VE member here.

People most definitely do have control over winning,sorry. It's inherent in the design of Cyro. Claiming individuals have no say in how a Cyro cycle turns out is akin to lying on the ground at the supermarket and wailing about how you have no choice in which Capri Sun you buy. It's alright, get the Fruit Punch. You have a say, trust me.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Yes, Day and Night Crews have control over winning. Always has always will, as long as the scoring remains they way it is. Off hours is what wins campaign as there is no balance there. Primetime is a good competitive balance which is why it doesn't really matter. Once again if you think this is not true well once again you are entitled to your opinion.

I'll name two specific campaigns where that claim of yours is demonstrably false: Wabba 1 and the final cycle of TF. EP didn't have the dominate Oceanic or Day presence in either and won both. I understand how you want to speak from an antedoctal standpoint, and I'm wholly fine with that: however, you should realize that it ceases to be an opinion when it can proven to be utterly true. Also, I'm chuckling at someone trying argue from an anecdotal standpoint with me about Cyro campaigns. I've played way too many cycles and for way too many hours. I guarantee I know more about the minutiae of not only guild politics/drama but of populations/guilds, so come at me with that claim of yours based on anecdotal evidence. I'd love to laugh again.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

There is your conspiracy theory side coming out again. You should really get that checked. If you see a VE member on the field doesn't mean we are running with another guild. I love how yesterday that Tex and I were running a duo team at bleakers and EPs zone blew up about VE stacking raids at bleakers.

For someone who didn't want to speak on behalf of VE leadership, you sure are atm. Sorry, it was Zheg being crown for AK at Chal that piqued my interest. Or maybe AK was just magically following a VE raid lead and performing astronomically better in a purely random and unorchestrated event--and you were claiming I was the conspiracy theorist o.O. Raid leads will help other guilds out, Crispen, it's nothing new. No need to go full-blown Alex Jones over it.

Also, LOL @ having VE members so fixated about EP zone chat but yet having the audacity to claim others are conspiracy theorists.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Everything else you have to say just seems like salt directed at VE. I hope you realize it's not personal when you get farmed by VE. Just like below, you know you are the enemy.

For someone who hackusates people in whispers, you sure are fixated on the idea that anyone who opposes your in-group is "salty". Yes, I'm quite upset that VE make fools out of themselves, like rawr and stuff. Oh, I should explain that your EP zone chat fixation SS also revealed other fixations on your photobucket account, 10/10 top lol

Makes me chuckle that VE is so obsessed with EP zone chat while playing/leading raids on DC/AD that they watch EP zone chat too. Brought a tear to my eye with how the guild that claims they aren't trying to compete will watch EP zone chat. Like how insecure can one be? LOL

Make sure to whisper me to slurp slurp more about my dedication and trying,and whatever else cringe-worthy ish you've whispered me in the past, VE leadership. I'm anxiously awaiting your next round of blatant falsehoods--always worth a chuckle. Toodles until then

Where is the evidence of being wiped by dominant dominion repeatedly? If it actually happened I'd love to see it but it seems like as valid a claim as EP fighting "outnumbered" with 4 guild raids in one keep or the outstanding prime time performance of EP crowning an emp at 8:00 AM.

Oh, you think my emp reign started at 8 am? No, it started on a Friday during primetime and lasted for 17 hours--having been up for 12 hours prior to the crowning to bypass Meth in ap gains for the 5th time that cycle. Having a VE member log onto EP to claim I "begged" Meth to let me have Emp made me chortle though. Anyway, what was that about an 8 am Emp? Is that claim located in the same bin that the "We didnt wipe to Dom Dom" denial is in?

Also, I'll be on ESO in about 20 mins, so VE leadership can send their cringe-worthy,ass-kissing whispers like they've done in the past.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxox Papa Canio

Tuesday morning when Ghostbane got crowned, and how old of an emp are you talking about? I don't recall an emp being crowned in any of the past few Friday nights. And since you take my request for evidence to be denial (LOL reading is hard apparently) I will just assume you are making it up, feel free to link me a video though.

If that is your name I've never heard of you so you can't be that significant.

Wait, aren't you Ghostbane? Who's in my guild? Now I'm confused.

Ixtyr

Kilandros wrote: »

Wait, aren't you Ghostbane? Who's in my guild? Now I'm confused.

Spoilers: He's actually Brandon South-Ga.

Kilandros

Ixtyr wrote: »

Kilandros wrote: »

Wait, aren't you Ghostbane? Who's in my guild? Now I'm confused.

Spoilers: He's actually Brandon South-Ga.

So Ghostbane = Brandon South-Ga? I knew it!

zyk

stealthyevil wrote: »

Quick side note, I am pretty sure the last time Venatus has ever filled a full raid was closer to launch. We have not had a group run since 2 - 3 days after the Morrowind launch, and at least a month prior to that. At most we have 4 players that play on a consistent basis.

Anyways, Oceanic PvP is pretty unbalanced period.

To be fair, 4 Venatus is a full raid when Cliff Racers and Shalks are included.

While I don't see any evidence of VE wrong-doing and cannot conceive what they may have done to influence the oceanic prime time, it's pretty obvious by their reflexive zerging of this thread that they're guilty of *something*. Frigging VE.

Kilandros

stealthyevil wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Yet, AD, who was/is able to field two full raids(RAM and Venatus) on a consistent basis somehow have a "woe is me" attitude about Oceanic population.

Quick side note, I am pretty sure the last time Venatus has ever filled a full raid was closer to launch. We have not had a group run since 2 - 3 days after the Morrowind launch, and at least a month prior to that. At most we have 4 players that play on a consistent basis.

Anyways, Oceanic PvP is pretty unbalanced period.

Sometimes I'll be like "Who's this guy spamming cliff racer on me?!?!" and then I'll open my death recap and see Cliff Racer Spam.

Fruitdog

Zyk is onto something here.

Elong

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

FFS Kirsi now we actually are zerging the forums.

I'm proud of the little fires I light and step away from.

NACtron

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE isn't talking about campaign issues but I am. If you would like to directly talk about what I'm saying you are more than welcome. Everything else is obviously salt that you have built up against VE. You would probably be a more happy person if you didn't keep all the hate and rage built up inside you. I'm sorry that VE has farmed you so many times that you feel the only way to get back at them is hide behind an anonymous game account not tied to your character.

Because you selectively choose when you are or are not part of a collective whether it benefits you during that point in time? Social groups don't work like a guild tabard, Crispen, I'm sorry about that. If you don't like that VE's past as guild almost wholly invalidates any of your opinions(yes, opinions) about campaigns, then I can understand your desperate urge to paint me as "salty"--which is the internet equivalent to "well, ur mum,m8". Also, if by farmed, you mean VE's performance against equal numbers of Dom Dom on multiple occasions, then sure those incidents were VE getting farmed. Was top quality entertainment for me, though. Anyway, I most definitely appreciate the concern of whether or not I got Xv1d by VE or not. It's a lovely sentiment, truly.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Well noone else has put in the level of tracking guild presence that I have so what does that make you? If my attempt is only half-assed I guess you are just a lazy ass. I feel most people thought my attempt was beneficial and appreciated the work I did each time I compiled the list. Each person is entitled to their opinion no matter how misguided it may be.

Here are those two threads I compiled one over a year ago and one a few months ago.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266730/pc-na-trueflame-and-haderus-know-thy-enemy-an-overview-of-guilds/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/332387/na-pc-what-pvp-guilds-are-still-active/p1

Here, I'll put the same level of effort that you put in: "Guilds I know exist [rabid speculation of their group size and an inaccurate portrait of which times they run] *leave it posted as such until guilds repeatedly try to correct my inaccurate claims and I do not acquiesce*"
There, I put as much effort into the endeavor as you did. Maybe VE leadership will whisper me yet again to ass-kiss and thank me for my dedication and thank me for trying or w/e else cringe-worthy things I'd get in whispers? I sure do love hearing SLURP when I check my whispers tab, thanks VE.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

So you are also a conspiracy theory nut, your resume just keeps growing.

Because RAM swapping to AD when VE conveniently swapped to AD isn't public knowledge? I'll be sure to shout "conspiracy theory" each time a known fact, which I don't like, is spoken about. Cates r bettr tahn doggos? CONSPIRACY THEORY!1!oneX1
Seriously, that's the weakest counter-argument I've ever seen on the internet.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE looks for good fights by playing the map. I am not VE's GM so I can't speak for our guild objectives. They change from time to time as different raid leads run into different situations. I also joined VE when they rerolled to DC at a time that DC needed strong competitive guilds. Most people realized along time ago that day and night crews win campaigns. Some still think otherwise you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how misguided you are.

If you're looking for good fights in empty keeps, then you're doing it wrong. Also, if you're not VE's GM, then why are you claiming what VE does objectives-wise? Considering that you claimed you cannot speak for your guild regarding objectives, it's quite hilarious to contradict yourself in the following sentence. Also, if you wanted to make a huge point of VE not speaking about campaign issues, you sure are positioning as a VE member here.

People most definitely do have control over winning,sorry. It's inherent in the design of Cyro. Claiming individuals have no say in how a Cyro cycle turns out is akin to lying on the ground at the supermarket and wailing about how you have no choice in which Capri Sun you buy. It's alright, get the Fruit Punch. You have a say, trust me.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Yes, Day and Night Crews have control over winning. Always has always will, as long as the scoring remains they way it is. Off hours is what wins campaign as there is no balance there. Primetime is a good competitive balance which is why it doesn't really matter. Once again if you think this is not true well once again you are entitled to your opinion.

I'll name two specific campaigns where that claim of yours is demonstrably false: Wabba 1 and the final cycle of TF. EP didn't have the dominate Oceanic or Day presence in either and won both. I understand how you want to speak from an antedoctal standpoint, and I'm wholly fine with that: however, you should realize that it ceases to be an opinion when it can proven to be utterly true. Also, I'm chuckling at someone trying argue from an anecdotal standpoint with me about Cyro campaigns. I've played way too many cycles and for way too many hours. I guarantee I know more about the minutiae of not only guild politics/drama but of populations/guilds, so come at me with that claim of yours based on anecdotal evidence. I'd love to laugh again.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

There is your conspiracy theory side coming out again. You should really get that checked. If you see a VE member on the field doesn't mean we are running with another guild. I love how yesterday that Tex and I were running a duo team at bleakers and EPs zone blew up about VE stacking raids at bleakers.

For someone who didn't want to speak on behalf of VE leadership, you sure are atm. Sorry, it was Zheg being crown for AK at Chal that piqued my interest. Or maybe AK was just magically following a VE raid lead and performing astronomically better in a purely random and unorchestrated event--and you were claiming I was the conspiracy theorist o.O. Raid leads will help other guilds out, Crispen, it's nothing new. No need to go full-blown Alex Jones over it.

Also, LOL @ having VE members so fixated about EP zone chat but yet having the audacity to claim others are conspiracy theorists.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Everything else you have to say just seems like salt directed at VE. I hope you realize it's not personal when you get farmed by VE. Just like below, you know you are the enemy.

For someone who hackusates people in whispers, you sure are fixated on the idea that anyone who opposes your in-group is "salty". Yes, I'm quite upset that VE make fools out of themselves, like rawr and stuff. Oh, I should explain that your EP zone chat fixation SS also revealed other fixations on your photobucket account, 10/10 top lol

Makes me chuckle that VE is so obsessed with EP zone chat while playing/leading raids on DC/AD that they watch EP zone chat too. Brought a tear to my eye with how the guild that claims they aren't trying to compete will watch EP zone chat. Like how insecure can one be? LOL

Make sure to whisper me to slurp slurp more about my dedication and trying,and whatever else cringe-worthy ish you've whispered me in the past, VE leadership. I'm anxiously awaiting your next round of blatant falsehoods--always worth a chuckle. Toodles until then

Where is the evidence of being wiped by dominant dominion repeatedly? If it actually happened I'd love to see it but it seems like as valid a claim as EP fighting "outnumbered" with 4 guild raids in one keep or the outstanding prime time performance of EP crowning an emp at 8:00 AM.

Dracvictus Militia Rising of the Phoniex pride ourselves on our ability to fight outnumbered no matter the odds.

maxjapank

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Is there AD pop on the other campaigns (Sotha Sil, Almalexia or Kyne) that could come over to Vivec? This is sometimes the case that presence is on the wrong campaign?

This isn't quite accurate of the entire Oceanic time. But it's really hard to give a good picture because as some have noted, guilds don't play for the entirety of the 1 AM EST - 9 AM EST. The above picture is a good representation of what the map looks like before I hop on, which is around 6:30 AM EST.

In general, all 3 factions have a 2 bar pop from 6:30 AM EST - 8:00 AM EST. On the nights that RAM plays, yellow will increase dramatically in size from 8:00 AM EST. Red often stays 2 bars most of the night until 9:00 AM EST, which is when Wormhole logs on for EP. And blue still maintains the higher pop, especially form 8:00 AM EST as this is when Vivaci begins to play.

The main thing that AD and EP lack during this time period is not necessarily numbers, but organization. And when guilds like RAM and Wormhole log on, the battles tend to pick up. But even when these guilds are not on, we have seen good fights against both factions, especially against EP. Last night was a prime example. EP had quite a good force on from 6:30 AM EST - 9:30 AM EST, which is when I logged off.

But as the OP noted, the one faction lacking forces, which I'd say is more organization, is AD. One guild we haven't seen for a while is Nocturnal, which was able to help AD push against blue and red.

Ilpagliaccio

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

FFS Kirsi now we actually are zerging the forums.

Look Ghostbane, if you would just L2Meme already, I wouldn't have had to come in here.

Is that what you consider memeing? It looks like the desperate plea of a child to fit in, Kirsi. Anyway, I'm busy dealing with AoE threatening to get me banned in game. So excuse me, I have more salt to mine elsewhere. I'll check in later to see how the VE zerging of the forums went.

Here we find a typical failus trollicus in its native environment. This species, when it gets out trolled simply finds an excuse to just ignore it.

FYI, if you didn't want to have trouble in game, maybe you shouldn't have sent BBQ a CoD disguised as a rewards of the worthy. I believe that falls pretty squarely under the definition of "scam".

Btw, unrelated but who is Canio Tradito?

5k gold for a CoD'd Juggernaut training boots? I'm no expert on the market, but it sounds like a fair trade to me. Even AoE agreed that trying to get me banned for it would be a petty reason. Also illogical too as it isnt a scam. I'll CoD you the boots for 7k, Kirsi. Final offer. Pass along the same offer to AoE since he cannot respond for himself, due to his 2nd forum account getting banned and all--his own words, ofc

So your defense is "I did try, but it was only 5k gold"? Neither do I really see an issue with that self proclaimed pettiness, nor how you can in full seriousness feel justified in calling others out on it when you have been nothing but petty in all your interactions throughout this and other threads.

Still waiting, btw, for a substantive defense of your verbose narrative.

I don't know about you, but I've yet to meet a group that isn't guilty of what they've been accused of when they have 7 members responding to what they claim to be "baseless". I certainly get 6 of my buddies and go zerg down a guy when he says that I eat plums,such an outrageous accusation. I'll prove how baseless and silly his assertions are by going to defcon 5,yeah defcon 5. Asking for evidence after a guildie threatened to report me, nah m8. You're just trying to bait for naming and shaming at this point.

Btw, it's primetime atm. I heard primetime doesnt make or break campaigns, but look at that scoreboard. Sheesh, I'm going to log off and go play something else. Equal pops atm and that's how the score looks? Disgusting

MaximillianDiE

maxjapank wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Is there AD pop on the other campaigns (Sotha Sil, Almalexia or Kyne) that could come over to Vivec? This is sometimes the case that presence is on the wrong campaign?

This isn't quite accurate of the entire Oceanic time. But it's really hard to give a good picture because as some have noted, guilds don't play for the entirety of the 1 AM EST - 9 AM EST. The above picture is a good representation of what the map looks like before I hop on, which is around 6:30 AM EST.

In general, all 3 factions have a 2 bar pop from 6:30 AM EST - 8:00 AM EST. On the nights that RAM plays, yellow will increase dramatically in size from 8:00 AM EST. Red often stays 2 bars most of the night until 9:00 AM EST, which is when Wormhole logs on for EP. And blue still maintains the higher pop, especially form 8:00 AM EST as this is when Vivaci begins to play.

The main thing that AD and EP lack during this time period is not necessarily numbers, but organization. And when guilds like RAM and Wormhole log on, the battles tend to pick up. But even when these guilds are not on, we have seen good fights against both factions, especially against EP. Last night was a prime example. EP had quite a good force on from 6:30 AM EST - 9:30 AM EST, which is when I logged off.

But as the OP noted, the one faction lacking forces, which I'd say is more organization, is AD. One guild we haven't seen for a while is Nocturnal, which was able to help AD push against blue and red.

I'm in New Zealand so my primetime is a little before the Aussis (2 - 4 hours before) and the Asians (4+ hours) with 6pm being 2AM US EST through to around 10pm here which is 6am US EST.

What I always see during that time is incredibly cyclic with DC being incredibly disorganised at that time as its before TKG and the Asian guilds start to run. Generally DC gets pushed back to Glade by a very large EP group who take as much as they can, sometimes they cap emp, often take our scrolls and push us back to our gates. AD sometimes is pushing up from Nikel at the same time also with a relatively disorganised group unless Venatus or Nocturnal are on or Conquerers Crown/Ruin/DD are still running and aren't turtling in some irrelevant keep. AD has the numbers - but are as disorganised as DC were during my primetime otherwise. After 11pm my time TKG and the Japanese start running organised groups and the balance flips to DC. If Queens RAM are also on then DC has a strong AD presence to fight. If not DC caps the map. If I'm still on at that time I go play with ZDM on EP as DC otherwise owns EP numbers wise which isn't a lot of fun to play against so I tend to get on my EP then if I don't simply go do something else (or sleep).

After that (i.e. 7am EST) you're into US daytime anyway so NA players presumably also need to be factored into the population balance as well.

Telel

EDIT: Removed a reply this one nver actually ended up not using. Fricking Forums needs to tank replies if you don't post them after 3 days.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Because Wabba 1 was won by the EP oceanic/day crew? Why are VE trying to talk about campaign wins when they were only a 10 man camping Sej until all the actual guilds quit--then they decided to compete right at that moment(for whatever reason) and then bemoan how they never got a chance to compete with Havoc et al, like L O L.

VE isn't talking about campaign issues but I am. If you would like to directly talk about what I'm saying you are more than welcome. Everything else is obviously salt that you have built up against VE. You would probably be a more happy person if you didn't keep all the hate and rage built up inside you. I'm sorry that VE has farmed you so many times that you feel the only way to get back at them is hide behind an anonymous game account not tied to your character.

Also, if you want to argue about how little primetime affects scoring(especially if you want to use an appeal to a nonexistent majority), then I'd suggest putting more effort into it than that Guild info, thing, whatever you want to call that half-assed attempt at recording guild presence you pulled.

Well noone else has put in the level of tracking guild presence that I have so what does that make you? If my attempt is only half-assed I guess you are just a lazy ass. I feel most people thought my attempt was beneficial and appreciated the work I did each time I compiled the list. Each person is entitled to their opinion no matter how misguided it may be.

Here are those two threads I compiled one over a year ago and one a few months ago.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266730/pc-na-trueflame-and-haderus-know-thy-enemy-an-overview-of-guilds/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/332387/na-pc-what-pvp-guilds-are-still-active/p1

If that's the level of effort some put into tracking guild presence, then that explains RAM swapping to AD to nightcap for VE.

So you are also a conspiracy theory nut, your resume just keeps growing.

Oh, side-note: if VE's repeated PvDoor attempts,other map control pushes,etc. are not trying to win a campaign, then I'm the Pope. Pope Canio XII

VE looks for good fights by playing the map. I am not VE's GM so I can't speak for our guild objectives. They change from time to time as different raid leads run into different situations. I also joined VE when they rerolled to DC at a time that DC needed strong competitive guilds. Most people realized along time ago that day and night crews win campaigns. Some still think otherwise you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how misguided you are.

People most definitely do have control over winning.

Yes, Day and Night Crews have control over winning. Always has always will, as long as the scoring remains they way it is. Off hours is what wins campaign as there is no balance there. Primetime is a good competitive balance which is why it doesn't really matter. Once again if you think this is not true well once again you are entitled to your opinion.

Primetime is a significant factor to win a campaign. It's probably why I've noticed certain VE members branching out and running with AK and other DC guilds,right? It seems like there's an effort being made to improve DC primetime guilds' ability. If primetime doesnt matter, then why is your guild behaving thus?

There is your conspiracy theory side coming out again. You should really get that checked. If you see a VE member on the field doesn't mean we are running with another guild. I love how yesterday that Tex and I were running a duo team at bleakers and EPs zone blew up about VE stacking raids at bleakers.



Everything else you have to say just seems like salt directed at VE. I hope you realize it's not personal when you get farmed by VE. Just like below, you know you are the enemy.

OOO. Khajiit always knew they were famous. But they are amused to see that they're on a first name basis with the Griff's zone chat.

Now if they could just figure out that five people is not thirty....

Silly griffs need to count bodies instead of toes when it comes to determining group sizes.

HoloYoitsu

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

FFS Kirsi now we actually are zerging the forums.

Look Ghostbane, if you would just L2Meme already, I wouldn't have had to come in here.

Is that what you consider memeing? It looks like the desperate plea of a child to fit in, Kirsi. Anyway, I'm busy dealing with AoE threatening to get me banned in game. So excuse me, I have more salt to mine elsewhere. I'll check in later to see how the VE zerging of the forums went.

Here we find a typical failus trollicus in its native environment. This species, when it gets out trolled simply finds an excuse to just ignore it.

FYI, if you didn't want to have trouble in game, maybe you shouldn't have sent BBQ a CoD disguised as a rewards of the worthy. I believe that falls pretty squarely under the definition of "scam".

Btw, unrelated but who is Canio Tradito?

5k gold for a CoD'd Juggernaut training boots? I'm no expert on the market, but it sounds like a fair trade to me. Even AoE agreed that trying to get me banned for it would be a petty reason. Also illogical too as it isnt a scam. I'll CoD you the boots for 7k, Kirsi. Final offer. Pass along the same offer to AoE since he cannot respond for himself, due to his 2nd forum account getting banned and all--his own words, ofc

So your defense is "I did try, but it was only 5k gold"? Neither do I really see an issue with that self proclaimed pettiness, nor how you can in full seriousness feel justified in calling others out on it when you have been nothing but petty in all your interactions throughout this and other threads.

Still waiting, btw, for a substantive defense of your verbose narrative.

I don't know about you, but I've yet to meet a group that isn't guilty of what they've been accused of when they have 7 members responding to what they claim to be "baseless". I certainly get 6 of my buddies and go zerg down a guy when he says that I eat plums,such an outrageous accusation. I'll prove how baseless and silly his assertions are by going to defcon 5,yeah defcon 5. Asking for evidence after a guildie threatened to report me, nah m8. You're just trying to bait for naming and shaming at this point.

Btw, it's primetime atm. I heard primetime doesnt make or break campaigns, but look at that scoreboard. Sheesh, I'm going to log off and go play something else. Equal pops atm and that's how the score looks? Disgusting

I don't get what the point of linking me the campaign scoring is exactly. Am I supposed to feel some existential sadness, bow my head and say to you, "good sir, you have bested me in this battle of wits" as I dab the tears from my eyes with a petite handkerchief? I'm especially confused because of the fact that VE hasn't even been raiding in pretty much any capacity for almost 3 out of the last 4 weeks.

maxjapank

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Is there AD pop on the other campaigns (Sotha Sil, Almalexia or Kyne) that could come over to Vivec? This is sometimes the case that presence is on the wrong campaign?

This isn't quite accurate of the entire Oceanic time. But it's really hard to give a good picture because as some have noted, guilds don't play for the entirety of the 1 AM EST - 9 AM EST. The above picture is a good representation of what the map looks like before I hop on, which is around 6:30 AM EST.

In general, all 3 factions have a 2 bar pop from 6:30 AM EST - 8:00 AM EST. On the nights that RAM plays, yellow will increase dramatically in size from 8:00 AM EST. Red often stays 2 bars most of the night until 9:00 AM EST, which is when Wormhole logs on for EP. And blue still maintains the higher pop, especially form 8:00 AM EST as this is when Vivaci begins to play.

The main thing that AD and EP lack during this time period is not necessarily numbers, but organization. And when guilds like RAM and Wormhole log on, the battles tend to pick up. But even when these guilds are not on, we have seen good fights against both factions, especially against EP. Last night was a prime example. EP had quite a good force on from 6:30 AM EST - 9:30 AM EST, which is when I logged off.

But as the OP noted, the one faction lacking forces, which I'd say is more organization, is AD. One guild we haven't seen for a while is Nocturnal, which was able to help AD push against blue and red.

I'm in New Zealand so my primetime is a little before the Aussis (2 - 4 hours before) and the Asians (4+ hours) with 6pm being 2AM US EST through to around 10pm here which is 6am US EST.

What I always see during that time is incredibly cyclic with DC being incredibly disorganised at that time as its before TKG and the Asian guilds start to run. Generally DC gets pushed back to Glade by a very large EP group who take as much as they can, sometimes they cap emp, often take our scrolls and push us back to our gates. AD sometimes is pushing up from Nikel at the same time also with a relatively disorganised group unless Venatus or Nocturnal are on or Conquerers Crown/Ruin/DD are still running and aren't turtling in some irrelevant keep. AD has the numbers - but are as disorganised as DC were during my primetime otherwise. After 11pm my time TKG and the Japanese start running organised groups and the balance flips to DC. If Queens RAM are also on then DC has a strong AD presence to fight. If not DC caps the map. If I'm still on at that time I go play with ZDM on EP as DC otherwise owns EP numbers wise which isn't a lot of fun to play against so I tend to get on my EP then if I don't simply go do something else (or sleep).

After that (i.e. 7am EST) you're into US daytime anyway so NA players presumably also need to be factored into the population balance as well.

Yeah. This is a pretty fair description. Some of our guild members are in New Zealand, and have said the same about being pushed back to Glade or the gates before the rest of us log on. I'm in Japan, by the way. Not that it matters.

Red have had numbers at times, even without ZDM. But one difference for EP is that Wormhole logs in an hour after RAM and Vivaci do. And there is a full hour where DC has two organized guilds running, while EP has none and AD has one (if RAM play that night). And it is not uncommon to see blue at 3 bars, while EP and AD are at 2 bars.

Interestingly, Wormhole usually runs for 2 hours straight when they are on. And we tend to lose half our guild and hour into that. So EP will sometimes have a stronger presence during Wormhole's second hour.

ZOS_CoriJ

We've had to remove quite a few posts from this thread. Lets get commentary back on topic with this thread and away from personal attacks.

Ilpagliaccio

So which Venatus member is volunteering to level people? If left to my own devices, I'll be leveling in PvP.

lostcloud

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But as the OP noted, the one faction lacking forces, which I'd say is more organization, is AD. One guild we haven't seen for a while is Nocturnal, which was able to help AD push against blue and red.[/quote]


Nocturnal is still here though with new content members are off exploring that atm, levelling alts, grinding gear etc. We run as a guild only once a week Wednesday night AEST though this will increase again once people are over the new content. We will be back and TKG will have to start chasing us around the map again.

As for the state of the campaign low populations come and go we AD are at a low ebb at the moment, but if history is anything to go by things will change populations will shift new recruits will arrive, have faith loyal warriors of the dominion.

maxjapank

lostcloud wrote: »

But as the OP noted, the one faction lacking forces, which I'd say is more organization, is AD. One guild we haven't seen for a while is Nocturnal, which was able to help AD push against blue and red.[/quote]


Nocturnal is still here though with new content members are off exploring that atm, levelling alts, grinding gear etc. We run as a guild only once a week Wednesday night AEST though this will increase again once people are over the new content. We will be back and TKG will have to start chasing us around the map again.

As for the state of the campaign low populations come and go we AD are at a low ebb at the moment, but if history is anything to go by things will change populations will shift new recruits will arrive, have faith loyal warriors of the dominion.

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Look forward to the fights!

Ixtyr

@Ilpagliaccio
All Crispen did was literally leave a comment talking about approximate guild presences throughout the various times of day.

The amount of unconstructive [snip]posting in this entire section of the forums is always bad, what's worse is the way people seem to somehow internally justify it. This entire thread is a great example of why I normally just lurk here and reserve any actual commenting or posting for the subreddit, where most commenters are at least somewhat literate and reasonable. Yeesh.

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Anyway, back on topic -

lostcloud wrote: »

Nocturnal is still here though with new content members are off exploring that atm, levelling alts, grinding gear etc. We run as a guild only once a week Wednesday night AEST though this will increase again once people are over the new content. We will be back and TKG will have to start chasing us around the map again.

As for the state of the campaign low populations come and go we AD are at a low ebb at the moment, but if history is anything to go by things will change populations will shift new recruits will arrive, have faith loyal warriors of the dominion.

This is good to hear. It's pretty much to be expected, big new release, a lot of players do more than just PvP. I think this whole first month or so since early access is kinda a wash, guilds will be back in strength in the next week or two.

AD has definitely struggled recently outside of NA primetime, so it'll be good to see some more organization on their part during other time periods.

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