More oceanic AD needed - PC Vivec NA

IxSTALKERxI

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

@IxSTALKERxI what happened ? We were asking for a little help for the Dominion at night and now EP and DC are arguing about some stuff I don't understand .. Maybe we just need the night time guilds we do have to do some guild recruiting thread bumps .

Idk man haha. AD are even outnumbered by EP and DC on the forums. Hopefully this thread brought the issue to peoples attention and AD guilds are able to recruit some players during that time slot.

Also, sometimes I really wish I could see some of Zos's data...
I bet they have exact numbers of players on each faction at certain times, the region they are playing the game from and even what they had for breakfast that morning. Would be interesting.

zyk

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Also, sometimes I really wish I could see some of Zos's data...
I bet they have exact numbers of players on each faction at certain times, the region they are playing the game from and even what they had for breakfast that morning. Would be interesting.

Ghostbane

As the honorable GM of VE, could raid 1 to 5 put phasers back to stun in this thread.

What AD needs in oceanic, is Lady Lightbright. A mix of Lolimage, and a sprinkle of siege common sense. PUG Leaders, and more importantly, PUG participants willing to learn/teach.

zyk wrote: »

WTB.

Takllin

I am AoE Barbecue.

Ixtyr

Takllin wrote: »

I am AoE Barbecue.

Dad?

Skitttles

Haha nice

Juli'St

facts:

1 - no one like be zergered all the time for zerg's destros (and whatever this guy use to tank...its a mistery) group, like u or not this fact.

2 - no one like fight against 'super builds' with player with infinite resources... *ZOS, with u now

3 - no one like be ganked for proc set's with DPS up 130K (oh yeah...i dont know how...)

4 - some players, leads, care about campaign, many or majority here, dont care. So, this guys just left. Who need play a campaign if no one care about?

5 - pugs dont like this umbalencead server... and this not depend of your point of view

6 - we have that exploit in queue, not solved, i think (i supose)

7 - we have a LOT of exploits, macros user's in game... to not say the rest...the other part... (some times, u die with 1 hit and 5 skill diferents - with normal latency)

8 - imagine all this problems with a super LAG every nigh?!

So...who have fun with this?

And serious farmers, if you not change your MIND about campaigns, next, ll play only against NPCs on resources.

Ghost-Shot

Kilandros wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Ilpagliaccio wrote: »

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE isn't talking about campaign issues but I am. If you would like to directly talk about what I'm saying you are more than welcome. Everything else is obviously salt that you have built up against VE. You would probably be a more happy person if you didn't keep all the hate and rage built up inside you. I'm sorry that VE has farmed you so many times that you feel the only way to get back at them is hide behind an anonymous game account not tied to your character.

Because you selectively choose when you are or are not part of a collective whether it benefits you during that point in time? Social groups don't work like a guild tabard, Crispen, I'm sorry about that. If you don't like that VE's past as guild almost wholly invalidates any of your opinions(yes, opinions) about campaigns, then I can understand your desperate urge to paint me as "salty"--which is the internet equivalent to "well, ur mum,m8". Also, if by farmed, you mean VE's performance against equal numbers of Dom Dom on multiple occasions, then sure those incidents were VE getting farmed. Was top quality entertainment for me, though. Anyway, I most definitely appreciate the concern of whether or not I got Xv1d by VE or not. It's a lovely sentiment, truly.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Well noone else has put in the level of tracking guild presence that I have so what does that make you? If my attempt is only half-assed I guess you are just a lazy ass. I feel most people thought my attempt was beneficial and appreciated the work I did each time I compiled the list. Each person is entitled to their opinion no matter how misguided it may be.

Here are those two threads I compiled one over a year ago and one a few months ago.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/266730/pc-na-trueflame-and-haderus-know-thy-enemy-an-overview-of-guilds/p1

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/332387/na-pc-what-pvp-guilds-are-still-active/p1

Here, I'll put the same level of effort that you put in: "Guilds I know exist [rabid speculation of their group size and an inaccurate portrait of which times they run] *leave it posted as such until guilds repeatedly try to correct my inaccurate claims and I do not acquiesce*"
There, I put as much effort into the endeavor as you did. Maybe VE leadership will whisper me yet again to ass-kiss and thank me for my dedication and thank me for trying or w/e else cringe-worthy things I'd get in whispers? I sure do love hearing SLURP when I check my whispers tab, thanks VE.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

So you are also a conspiracy theory nut, your resume just keeps growing.

Because RAM swapping to AD when VE conveniently swapped to AD isn't public knowledge? I'll be sure to shout "conspiracy theory" each time a known fact, which I don't like, is spoken about. Cates r bettr tahn doggos? CONSPIRACY THEORY!1!oneX1
Seriously, that's the weakest counter-argument I've ever seen on the internet.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

VE looks for good fights by playing the map. I am not VE's GM so I can't speak for our guild objectives. They change from time to time as different raid leads run into different situations. I also joined VE when they rerolled to DC at a time that DC needed strong competitive guilds. Most people realized along time ago that day and night crews win campaigns. Some still think otherwise you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how misguided you are.

If you're looking for good fights in empty keeps, then you're doing it wrong. Also, if you're not VE's GM, then why are you claiming what VE does objectives-wise? Considering that you claimed you cannot speak for your guild regarding objectives, it's quite hilarious to contradict yourself in the following sentence. Also, if you wanted to make a huge point of VE not speaking about campaign issues, you sure are positioning as a VE member here.

People most definitely do have control over winning,sorry. It's inherent in the design of Cyro. Claiming individuals have no say in how a Cyro cycle turns out is akin to lying on the ground at the supermarket and wailing about how you have no choice in which Capri Sun you buy. It's alright, get the Fruit Punch. You have a say, trust me.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Yes, Day and Night Crews have control over winning. Always has always will, as long as the scoring remains they way it is. Off hours is what wins campaign as there is no balance there. Primetime is a good competitive balance which is why it doesn't really matter. Once again if you think this is not true well once again you are entitled to your opinion.

I'll name two specific campaigns where that claim of yours is demonstrably false: Wabba 1 and the final cycle of TF. EP didn't have the dominate Oceanic or Day presence in either and won both. I understand how you want to speak from an antedoctal standpoint, and I'm wholly fine with that: however, you should realize that it ceases to be an opinion when it can proven to be utterly true. Also, I'm chuckling at someone trying argue from an anecdotal standpoint with me about Cyro campaigns. I've played way too many cycles and for way too many hours. I guarantee I know more about the minutiae of not only guild politics/drama but of populations/guilds, so come at me with that claim of yours based on anecdotal evidence. I'd love to laugh again.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

There is your conspiracy theory side coming out again. You should really get that checked. If you see a VE member on the field doesn't mean we are running with another guild. I love how yesterday that Tex and I were running a duo team at bleakers and EPs zone blew up about VE stacking raids at bleakers.

For someone who didn't want to speak on behalf of VE leadership, you sure are atm. Sorry, it was Zheg being crown for AK at Chal that piqued my interest. Or maybe AK was just magically following a VE raid lead and performing astronomically better in a purely random and unorchestrated event--and you were claiming I was the conspiracy theorist o.O. Raid leads will help other guilds out, Crispen, it's nothing new. No need to go full-blown Alex Jones over it.

Also, LOL @ having VE members so fixated about EP zone chat but yet having the audacity to claim others are conspiracy theorists.

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Everything else you have to say just seems like salt directed at VE. I hope you realize it's not personal when you get farmed by VE. Just like below, you know you are the enemy.

For someone who hackusates people in whispers, you sure are fixated on the idea that anyone who opposes your in-group is "salty". Yes, I'm quite upset that VE make fools out of themselves, like rawr and stuff. Oh, I should explain that your EP zone chat fixation SS also revealed other fixations on your photobucket account, 10/10 top lol

Makes me chuckle that VE is so obsessed with EP zone chat while playing/leading raids on DC/AD that they watch EP zone chat too. Brought a tear to my eye with how the guild that claims they aren't trying to compete will watch EP zone chat. Like how insecure can one be? LOL

Make sure to whisper me to slurp slurp more about my dedication and trying,and whatever else cringe-worthy ish you've whispered me in the past, VE leadership. I'm anxiously awaiting your next round of blatant falsehoods--always worth a chuckle. Toodles until then

Where is the evidence of being wiped by dominant dominion repeatedly? If it actually happened I'd love to see it but it seems like as valid a claim as EP fighting "outnumbered" with 4 guild raids in one keep or the outstanding prime time performance of EP crowning an emp at 8:00 AM.

Oh, you think my emp reign started at 8 am? No, it started on a Friday during primetime and lasted for 17 hours--having been up for 12 hours prior to the crowning to bypass Meth in ap gains for the 5th time that cycle. Having a VE member log onto EP to claim I "begged" Meth to let me have Emp made me chortle though. Anyway, what was that about an 8 am Emp? Is that claim located in the same bin that the "We didnt wipe to Dom Dom" denial is in?

Also, I'll be on ESO in about 20 mins, so VE leadership can send their cringe-worthy,ass-kissing whispers like they've done in the past.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxox Papa Canio

Tuesday morning when Ghostbane got crowned, and how old of an emp are you talking about? I don't recall an emp being crowned in any of the past few Friday nights. And since you take my request for evidence to be denial (LOL reading is hard apparently) I will just assume you are making it up, feel free to link me a video though.

If that is your name I've never heard of you so you can't be that significant.

Wait, aren't you Ghostbane? Who's in my guild? Now I'm confused.

Yes, nothing to see here...

Juli'St

Ghostbane wrote: »

As the honorable GM of VE, could raid 1 to 5 put phasers back to stun in this thread.

What AD needs in oceanic, is Lady Lightbright. A mix of Lolimage, and a sprinkle of siege common sense. PUG Leaders, and more importantly, PUG participants willing to learn/teach.

zyk wrote: »

WTB.

Agree about pug leads.

Juli'St

Ghostbane

I hear from 2 friends (his lead some times): '...with infinite loadscreen, its hard like be a lead' - its a group bug - old bug - on Cyrodiil.

Some times i lead 'fate', but not in this campaign. After my first 'infinite loadscreen', i prefere solo.

Satiar

I hit a load screen while farming at Sej in Wabba one and came out of it in TF 1.6! Real pvpers never crash thier load screens. Trust in ZoS.

Fruitdog

Satiar wrote: »

I hit a load screen while farming at Sej in Wabba one and came out of it in TF 1.6! Real pvpers never crash thier load screens. Trust in ZoS.

I just got out of the tutorial load screen yesterday, get on my level!

Satiar

Fruitdog wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

I hit a load screen while farming at Sej in Wabba one and came out of it in TF 1.6! Real pvpers never crash thier load screens. Trust in ZoS.

I just got out of the tutorial load screen yesterday, get on my level!

This explains the low raid heals last 3 years

Draxys

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

5 AD huddled in Faregyl praying that it doesn't get sieged

I actually lol'd at this. Sounds pretty accurate. Luckily Iskra is there to have a conversation with while trying to pass the time.

Iskra's back? ok fine, i'll come back, i've been bored anyway. I need some good conspiracy theories in my life

Juli'St

Draxys wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

5 AD huddled in Faregyl praying that it doesn't get sieged

I actually lol'd at this. Sounds pretty accurate. Luckily Iskra is there to have a conversation with while trying to pass the time.

Iskra's back? ok fine, i'll come back, i've been bored anyway. I need some good conspiracy theories in my life

I used to hear something from a player, what was his name? Oh, German. He insisted on saying that whoever thought he had a 'strange' abuild was doing conspiracy theories. I liked that player, it seems that he left ESO.

ozimoon3rwb17_ESO

So things are tough for AD now eh? If it wasn't for CP I would probably play a bit.

Moon DiE
GM DiE
www.dieguild.com.au

IZZEFlameLash

Iskra seems to be 1vXing you all in this thread, or he is trying to.

Juli'St

IZZESparkling wrote: »

Iskra seems to be 1vXing you all in this thread, or he is trying to.

Noups, i talk about campaign, some of you, guys, enter in topics to talk about a person, me.

Yes, i understand my fans

Juli'St

Wrong guys. problem here call 'impunity'. People think they are 'impunity', which is free from the rules of the game and the ESO forum.

CyrusArya

Juli'St wrote: »

Wrong guys. problem here call 'impunity'. People think they are 'impunity', which is free from the rules of the game and the ESO forum.

Problem is iskra, you think you understand the game better than you do. Either the dozens of people you accuse after getting hilariously small scaled on a daily basis are all cheating, or you have a lot of learning left to do. I'm really curious the reaction from the people at support whenever a new report comes in from you lol.

Juli'St

CyrusArya wrote: »

Juli'St wrote: »

Wrong guys. problem here call 'impunity'. People think they are 'impunity', which is free from the rules of the game and the ESO forum.

Problem is iskra, you think you understand the game better than you do. Either the dozens of people you accuse after getting hilariously small scaled on a daily basis are all cheating, or you have a lot of learning left to do. I'm really curious the reaction from the people at support whenever a new report comes in from you lol.

Cyrus, u is right about something's. We talk about.

Anyway, this not solved the problem in this topic, about pop AD in vivec. Not everyone likes to waste all time, or to be 'farmed' by gyrations waves of destros, negates, etc. Well, this is from the game, there's no way to change that. BUT, there is a way to appeal to the good sense of some, so that they can devise their strategies to make Vivec a better place to play.

Many AD players have come out of this campaign for the sake of this topic, I have done a few above. But what made many come out at the end of the campaign were the strategic mistakes of some AD group leaders.

TerrorTAW

I'm gonna need you all to calm down. Thank you.

Vilestride

ozimoon3rwb17_ESO wrote: »

So things are tough for AD now eh? If it wasn't for CP I would probably play a bit.

Moon DiE
GM DiE
www.dieguild.com.au

Get grinding

I would love to see oceanic times become competitive again. I have seen each faction front an oceanic guild or 2 of late but there is no consistency to it. DC definitely has the most routine oceanic guild strength in 'TKG'.

The Population is there I believe, on both EP and AD, to field and opposing presence, but it would take some guild building no doubt. I feel the biggest obstacle to overcome is the snowball moral effect that comes when a higher tier, organised raid is allowed to go un-checked by other guilds of equal or close skill.

Persist through that and we should be rainbows and lollipops.

Flake

Giahh wrote: »

ozimoon3rwb17_ESO wrote: »

So things are tough for AD now eh? If it wasn't for CP I would probably play a bit.

Moon DiE
GM DiE
www.dieguild.com.au

Get grinding

I would love to see oceanic times become competitive again. I have seen each faction front an oceanic guild or 2 of late but there is no consistency to it. DC definitely has the most routine oceanic guild strength in 'TKG'.

The Population is there I believe, on both EP and AD, to field and opposing presence, but it would take some guild building no doubt. I feel the biggest obstacle to overcome is the snowball moral effect that comes when a higher tier, organised raid is allowed to go un-checked by other guilds of equal or close skill.

Persist through that and we should be rainbows and lollipops.

Bring on the comp!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyVnin4bXDU

We are normally fighting off against pure numbers with AD and EP, until RAM or Wormhole get on.
We use to get lucky with VN, NOC, ZDM and Invictus but not so much recently

maxjapank

Nice to see some AD on last night during Oceanic time zone. Before maintenance, EP had taken everything from AD, including scrolls. All that remained was blue's inner keeps and Ash I think. At this time, EP was 3 bars, AD was 2, and DC was one.

After maintenance, blue pushed red back to its scrolls...and for a while all factions sat at 2 bars pop. But low and behold, AD begin to pick up in numbers and soon AD was sitting at 3 bars to 2 bars for both EP and DC. Where did all those AD come from? Granted it was later in the Oceanic time zone. But it sure was both surprising and a pleasure to see, too.

IxSTALKERxI

maxjapank wrote: »

Nice to see some AD on last night during Oceanic time zone. Before maintenance, EP had taken everything from AD, including scrolls. All that remained was blue's inner keeps and Ash I think. At this time, EP was 3 bars, AD was 2, and DC was one.

After maintenance, blue pushed red back to its scrolls...and for a while all factions sat at 2 bars pop. But low and behold, AD begin to pick up in numbers and soon AD was sitting at 3 bars to 2 bars for both EP and DC. Where did all those AD come from? Granted it was later in the Oceanic time zone. But it sure was both surprising and a pleasure to see, too.

Yeah the populations of all 3 factions have been really inconsistent during this time. It is good to see more AD on. We got up to 3 bars last night but I don't believe there were any guild groups running. The 3 bars consist of ungrouped players and pug groups. I formed a 24man pug group last night and got the faction to all hoard together into the same general direction, not really as effective as a guild group though lol. At least there are people for guilds to recruit now. All those AD just need to join a PvP guild and learn how to PvP and then we'll be in a better place.