Sorc dominating BGs
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SnowTheMadDog
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Can somone explain to me why the hell sorc are still dominating pvp? Especially BG.
Played 15 BG today, and in most of em, sorc are topscore with some absurd 20/0/1 Kd ratio...
I mean, i'm doin Okey with my mDK, but when i see those sorc zip zap around and bursting ppl down so quick i can stop asking myself why i dont rerol sorc myself...
Played 15 BG today, and in most of em, sorc are topscore with some absurd 20/0/1 Kd ratio...
I mean, i'm doin Okey with my mDK, but when i see those sorc zip zap around and bursting ppl down so quick i can stop asking myself why i dont rerol sorc myself...
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wrath. It steals all kills. A lot of players are learning that sorc is one of the best in BGs because of streak and wrath. Proc MBs are also top dogs, but can't steal kills.
I was desperately trying mTemp, the moment I went to mSorc I actually had fun2 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And then you realized that the best thing to play is stamina procbuilds........
Not if you suck at Stam like me!0 -
FearlessOne_2014✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »
Not if you suck at Stam like me!
This is me doing nearly everything wrong on my first outing.
https://youtu.be/wtwSDDzKnHY
That was a pretty successful outing. Which was completely disheartening to me. Basically confirmed my worst nightmare. ProcBlade takes no skill what so ever. Just farm the gear, put it on, and let it kill for you. GGWP7 -
Killset✭✭✭✭I quit watching at 7:20 when by that time you had failed to kill anyone by yourself.13
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs are fine. Kill scoring just needs to changeXbox One | EU | EP
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Benn G x✭✭✭Endless fury needs to be deleted or reworked its ridiculous, you Insta die if you hit 20% health and been hit with fury anytime in the previous few seconds.
I've mained a magsorc for aslong as I can remember aswell.1 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
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I wonder did anyone who agreed with you watch your video. You killed 4 people in a 27 minute video, vast majority of that time out of stam. 4 kills in 27 minutes a success to you?Lets examine your kills. first kill was Xv1 kill very impressive ,Congrats you can Xv1 any class can do that, you would have did that better on a sorc .Next 2 kills were ganks,thank you for reinforcing people statement stam blades only good at ganking.1 kill was against a CP140 and you didn't even proc him down your heavy bow into poison injection killed him.FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
This is me doing nearly everything wrong on my first outing.https://youtu.be/wtwSDDzKnHY
That was a pretty successful outing. Which was completely disheartening to me. Basically confirmed my worst nightmare. ProcBlade takes no skill what so ever. Just farm the gear, put it on, and let it kill for you. GGWP
Your only solo kill in the video is of you waiting for a guy to get back on his horse to kill him. Nothing in that video you couldn't do on anything class.
Proc are bad but your video doesn't prove anything.12 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭I still can't kill sorcs with my proc build, they just streak away reset the fight and combo me in seconds. TTK is way to short in this game atm.Edited by akray21 on June 9, 2017 1:04PM2
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Irylia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Endless fury needs to be deleted or reworked its ridiculous, you Insta die if you hit 20% health and been hit with fury anytime in the previous few seconds.
I've mained a magsorc for aslong as I can remember aswell.
What do you suggest they change it to? Remove their ability to execute completely or change he % it procs at0 -
AverageJo3Gam3r✭✭✭✭✭@Irylia change it to dealing additional damage to low health targets like every other execute in the game. Not instantly vaporizing them because you precast it.2 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Endless fury needs to be deleted or reworked its ridiculous, you Insta die if you hit 20% health and been hit with fury anytime in the previous few seconds.
I've mained a magsorc for aslong as I can remember aswell.
Hardly anyone thought this ability was strong before BGs came out with it's questionable scoring mechanic. And those that did were mocked.8 -
Vanzen✭✭✭✭✭No reason to go with anything else than sorc in BG.
The gap with other classes is abyssal.
Me uterly sucking at sorc do way better than with my DK that I consider playing not too badly.
And yes the problem is endless fury ... The other advantages sorcs have are acceptable but endless fury in BG environment is game breaking.Edited by Vanzen on June 9, 2017 3:19PM1 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No reason to go with anything else than sorc in BG.
The gap with other classes is abyssal.
Me uterly sucking at sorc do way better than with my DK that I consider playing not too badly.
And yes the problem is endless fury ... The other advantages sorcs have are acceptable but endless fury in BG environment is game breaking.
It really is, I mean just tag everybody with wrath every 4 secs, streak away, win.1 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »
It really is, I mean just tag everybody with wrath every 4 secs, streak away, win.
Usually when I die by sorc, they are at least 35 meters away from me because of this... Many times not even in LOS...2 -
Karm1cOne✭✭✭✭✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »@Irylia change it to dealing additional damage to low health targets like every other execute in the game. Not instantly vaporizing them because you precast it.
That's what it does... additional damage at below 20%. That's one reason it's way lower than every other execute.0 -
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✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »
Hardly anyone thought this ability was strong before BGs came out with it's questionable scoring mechanic. And those that did were mocked.
Endless Fury was the top performing execute months before Morrowind. Did people dispute that?Invictus
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CavalryPK✭✭✭✭✭
What do you suggest they change it to? Remove their ability to execute completely or change he % it procs at
In would say to remove the 4 second timer on it.THE CAVELRY HAS ARRIVED! Cav is a professional magblade, (in his not so professional opinion). He is immortal and is fighting for the Pact since 2E 572, amidst the turmoil of the Second Akaviri Invasion. He protects the provinces of Skyrim, Morrowind and Black Marsh.
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Morvane✭✭✭✭Endless fury needs to be deleted or reworked its ridiculous, you Insta die if you hit 20% health and been hit with fury anytime in the previous few seconds.
I've mained a magsorc for aslong as I can remember aswell.
go to hui with ur suggestion
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grim_tactics✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs are not OP in BGs - that's hilarious. MagSorcs are the easiest ones to kill in BGs.
NBs rule the realm of BGs from a pure damage stand point.
As far as kills - MagSorcs are stealing those all day but they melt super easy. They just hang out in the back. Run over there and smack em - super easy.No reason to go with anything else than sorc in BG.
The gap with other classes is abyssal.
Me uterly sucking at sorc do way better than with my DK that I consider playing not too badly.
And yes the problem is endless fury ... The other advantages sorcs have are acceptable but endless fury in BG environment is game breaking.
I'd take a MagDK and NB over Sorc in BGs any day. The bursts from NBs is way too OP in NonCP and MagDK can do good damage and survivability is better in BGs than MagSorc.Edited by grim_tactics on June 9, 2017 4:39PM4 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭grim_tactics wrote: »Sorcs are not OP in BGs - that's hilarious. MagSorcs are the easiest ones to kill in BGs.
NBs rule the realm of BGs from a pure damage stand point.
As far as kills - MagSorcs are stealing those all day but they melt super easy. They just hang out in the back. Run over there and smack em - super easy.
I'd take a MagDK and NB over Sorc in BGs any day. The bursts from NBs is way too OP in NonCP and MagDK can do good damage and survivability is better in BGs than MagSorc.
Dude... You don't have to defend your OP class on the forums, sorcs never get nerfs, you have nothing to worry about. OP4Life9 -
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Dude... You don't have to defend your OP class on the forums, sorcs never get nerfs, you have nothing to worry about. OP4Life
You obviously don't play a MagSorc in BGs do you?
I've played StamBlade, MagDK, StamDK, and MagSorc. MagSorc is my main in most PvP.
In BGs - MagSorc survivability is garbage. In CP campaigns - yes they're OP as hell - but this is about BGs riiiiiiiight?
So yes - NBs and MagDK are awesome in BGs. Great versatility.
Want to steal everyone's kills and melt to most everything because shields are crap in NonCP - then by all means run a MagSorc, but since you don't - then you don't know what you are talking about.Edited by grim_tactics on June 9, 2017 4:46PM8 -
Irylia✭✭✭✭✭
✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »@Irylia change it to dealing additional damage to low health targets like every other execute in the game. Not instantly vaporizing them because you precast it.
Well at 20% they should die. That's average 4-5k hp of your max and any execute like beam, killers blade, executioner have scaling damage to targets below % hp meaning they would all kill you almost instantly as well. Executioner and killers blade more so than beam because you can ani cancel it.
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✭✭✭✭✭I have seen NBs (proc Stam, and EotS Sap Proxy)
I have seen mSorcs
DKs and Temps - I've seen like 3 and they did not do well ( I struggled with my temp)
Wardens, saw a level 10 - he didn't do well so I dunno
But definitely would pick Sorc over DK or Temp, if anything the points!1 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭grim_tactics wrote: »
You obviously don't play a MagSorc in BGs do you?
I've played StamBlade, MagDK, StamDK, and MagSorc. MagSorc is my main in most PvP.
In BGs - MagSorc survivability is garbage. In CP campaigns - yes they're OP as hell - but this is about BGs riiiiiiiight?
So yes - NBs and MagDK are awesome in BGs. Great versatility.
Want to steal everyone's kills and melt to most everything because shields are crap in NonCP - then by all means run a MagSorc, but since you don't - then you don't know what you are talking about.
Your burst combo is better than NBs, and it's ranged... You have shields for survivability as well as streak... NBs have a broken (still) cloak that can't be used as a reliable escape. Full medium is squishy AF, just like light and we have to be in melee range while sorcs are miles away.Edited by akray21 on June 9, 2017 4:51PM2 -
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Your burst combo is better than NBs, and it's ranged... You have shields for survivability as well as streak... NBs have a broken (still) cloak that can't be used as a reliable escape. Full medium is squishy AF, just like light and we have to be in melee range while sorcs are miles away.
With 1 shield I get, what, 7k in NonCP- and with two stacked it's a total of maybe 11k. So I get (for 5 seconds max) the same health as a DK. That's it. NB burst is much higher because the passives the burst has as far as debuffing you in the process to follow up attacks which hit harder. My MagSorc does not do 18k in 1 second - I would love to know how your MagSorc can do 18k in 1 second.
With my NB - I can kill someone in BGs before the animation of them being stunned even finishes.2 -
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✭✭✭Sorcs are dominant at range, but there's several classes I'd take over it in close quarters.1