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Cyrodiil NPC's are Out of Control!

  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    One other point about the NPC's, @ZOS_BrianWheeler .

    The NPC's are able to CC you irrespective of CC Immunity rules. I've had 3 negates chucked on me, 3 of those golden balls of cc whose name eludes me, back to back, followed by the spinning slam. It is lucky for me I was playing a tank but indeed the NPC's are really behaving strangely at this point in time.
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  • SturgeHammer
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    Not sure if this issue is related, but a few nights ago in Sotha Sil NA PC the resource guards at all three roe resources were completely passive. They would not fight back or move, just dragon blood when they got low.
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  • Preyfar
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    The worst part is when you get chained, and you get pulled in at such an agonizingly slow speed and all that's happening, too
  • Goshua
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    Meat bag until flag is clear, easiest way.
  • Morgul667
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    Those NPCs are too strong now oO
  • umagon
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    I log in almost every day Ackwalan.

    With all respect. Then how did you not know about this? As others have said, it was noticed the first hour of going live.

    Log in and actively participate in the pvp zone are two separate things. If he actively participated he would know how annoying things are such as:

    - The infinite loading screens.

    - If you press “E” to enter doors too fast you go in then are ejected back outside.

    -The unnecessary loading screen when the keeps upgrade.

    -The toxic and boring aoe blob trains.

    -The fact the forward camps have such a low spawn timer its often difficult to clear players out of keeps. As they keep resurrecting right outside of the keep.

    -The fact that people can resurrect at newly placed forward camps even if they did not die in the radius of an active camp.

    -Players “blood porting” to keeps they have no transit connection to.

    -The fact that siege weapons do very little damage to players in champ campaigns.

    -The fact that players can just stand inside of each other stacking in areas where 50+ players would not normally fit if there was player collision.
  • Morgul667
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    Did a drive by of Aleswell farm level 5 just now and got the workers firing negate, fire balls, etc. It's not intended. Digging into this more.

    Good to know you are looking into this but I thought it was commonly known
  • Goshua
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    Goshua wrote: »
    Poor choice of words in my first post, my bad, apologies.
    Goshua wrote: »
    I'm looking into this but on the workers in Cyrodiil I'm seeing no changes in their ability lists for the past 6 months. Can you give us some more information such as the resource defense level and production level?

    How about play the game you've made and see it for yourself...

    You don't eat where you poop.

    I understand, but they should. If your job is poop, you should eat that poop like every other professional pooper.

    This is isn't an Alpha or a Beta defecation.


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  • Dr_Rektar
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    I died from fall damage on alessia farm 2 weeks ago, when npc knocked me back<
    npc constantly spamed bubble on me, with insane cast speed<
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  • Scamh
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    Koolio wrote: »
    Can you take a look at them chain pulling you through walls and floors.

    This too. You get pulled straight through the floor, occasionally.

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  • Beardimus
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    I didn't think it was much harder, alot of guildies talking about it but still soloable. I think leave it, its a better challenge. Saying it breaks the strategy is wrong, it just breaks your strategy so you have to change is all. Hard is good
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  • Humphie
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    I didn't think it was much harder, alot of guildies talking about it but still soloable. I think leave it, its a better challenge. Saying it breaks the strategy is wrong, it just breaks your strategy so you have to change is all. Hard is good

    Try solo a level 5 ressource as a magicka build... :s
  • Beardimus
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    That's my point, it should be hard. Should we be able to solo it? Change / shake up is good. A new horizon of pvp warfare could be cool.

    I'm Mag and soloed a few this morning, took some clever approach angles and some work tho but doable, or maybe Xbox isn't so bad
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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    By the way, @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Mage guards above the outer front door of keeps will conveniently pull players into the keep. They aren't doing a very good job defending.
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  • Humphie
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    That's my point, it should be hard. Should we be able to solo it? Change / shake up is good. A new horizon of pvp warfare could be cool.

    I'm Mag and soloed a few this morning, took some clever approach angles and some work tho but doable, or maybe Xbox isn't so bad

    I play no CP PvP. And yes, a ressource should be possible to solo. Even on no CP campaign. The discussion is useless anyways. Zos already stated it is not working as intented. I dunno how things are on console though but on PC, it is almost impossible to solo a ressource now. :)
  • Juli'St
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    By the way, @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Mage guards above the outer front door of keeps will conveniently pull players into the keep. They aren't doing a very good job defending.

    And we have - too - another problem about NBs. If one NB jump - dont remember the skill - in opponent and that opponent is entering a keep, NB also enters, passes through - through - the door.
  • Feanor
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    Logging in =/= playing ;)

    It's great. Now you have to Zerg up for resources too. Isn't that the game play you wanted to promote?
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  • Kas
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    nvm
    Edited by Kas on June 9, 2017 8:44AM
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  • Feanor
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    Juli'St wrote: »
    By the way, @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Mage guards above the outer front door of keeps will conveniently pull players into the keep. They aren't doing a very good job defending.

    And we have - too - another problem about NBs. If one NB jump - dont remember the skill - in opponent and that opponent is entering a keep, NB also enters, passes through - through - the door.

    Lotus Fan and its morphs. It was supposed to be fixed a few patches ago but it never really was I think.
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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    At launch resources were almost impossible to solo. They were a lot harder than they are in the current patch. I do agree that the abilities of the guards are a little too annoying, in particular the eclipse.
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Please make sure the difficulty of obtaining a resource is still high.
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  • Zaldan
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    Juli'St wrote: »
    By the way, @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Mage guards above the outer front door of keeps will conveniently pull players into the keep. They aren't doing a very good job defending.

    And we have - too - another problem about NBs. If one NB jump - dont remember the skill - in opponent and that opponent is entering a keep, NB also enters, passes through - through - the door.

    been happening for years, been "fixed" several times too, it's now a feature lol
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  • Zaldan
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Did a drive by of Aleswell farm level 5 just now and got the workers firing negate, fire balls, etc. It's not intended. Digging into this more.

    Good to know you are looking into this but I thought it was commonly known

    ZO$ don't know whats going on in the game until at least half a dozen threads are made about it,

    with video clips for proof,

    oh and verified by a streamer ;)
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  • Nermy
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    I log in almost every day Ackwalan.

    With all respect. Then how did you not know about this? As others have said, it was noticed the first hour of going live.

    Maybe he doesn't like taking resources... ;)
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Preyfar wrote: »
    The worst part is when you get chained, and you get pulled in at such an agonizingly slow speed and all that's happening, too

    Hah! I was just commenting on that to a friend the other day. The long duration of that cc alone puts you in great danger because there's absolutely nothing you can do to get out of it.
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    I didn't think it was much harder, alot of guildies talking about it but still soloable. I think leave it, its a better challenge. Saying it breaks the strategy is wrong, it just breaks your strategy so you have to change is all. Hard is good

    You're missing the point. It isn't about skill or strategy, it is about whether or not the npc's are particularly glitchy. Will they cc-spam you 10 times in a row? Will you get 3 negate bubbles and 5 cc's tossed on you at once? Will you get attacked through walls, then chain pulled into 3 negates and cc's? Will the workers suddenly start tossing out negates, heals, and fireballs? I'm sorry but I disagree with you. The nuance is lost and the npc's have just become brute-force glitching (I'd say cheating) monstrosities. I say this as a person who has actually solo'd resources in the current state of things but part of being able to do that is not having the npc's spazz out on you too much. Most npc's have to be killed 3-5 times at any regard because they 'reset' back to full health for no particular reason.

    You want challenge to which I say I'd like to see interesting challenge if that's the goal. Otherwise, we should honestly send these guys at Molag Bal while the rest of us vestiges hang out on the beaches of Alikir sipping mai tais.
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  • olsborg
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    I'm looking into this but on the workers in Cyrodiil I'm seeing no changes in their ability lists for the past 6 months. Can you give us some more information such as the resource defense level and production level?

    Level 5 resource workers cast eclipse and dragon armor etc..

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  • Taylor_MB
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    Seeming this has -finally- got a devs attention, reposting this of the Eclipse bug (one small part of the bigger picture I know).

    https://youtu.be/MrIZswJPHu0

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler , I'm sorry, but claiming you log in every day means absolutely zero when these bugs are-
    a) immediately obvious
    b) have been pointed out constantly since PTS and again when live



    Edited by Taylor_MB on June 9, 2017 11:15AM
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  • soll
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    best part IMHO in the new bugged NPCs on the resources, especially level 5, it's when all 10+ mobs are starting to cross healing each other same time, making a hilarious crossed-chain. everyone is DK, Templar and Sorc same time :neutral:
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  • Feanor
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    Skillset upgrades in the crown store next. I'm sure gonna pay the 20k crowns to get my Sorc some Templar and DK skillz;)
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