Battlegrounds still broken

Sophieous

Autolycus wrote: »

MopeyHat wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

Normally I champion for the more relaxed, casual players in ESO, despite my progressive nature. However, if we're going to stick to a queue system for BGs, it should not be subordinated to random "busy work" that any particular individual may seek to fill the time. As soon as someone enters into a game system that involves other players, a utilitarian approach is more appropriate. One person who decides they weren't actually ready does so to the detriment of all others involved. That person should not be allowed to dictate whether or not others get into a group.

Ready-checks should be done away with in favor of a delayed forced teleport. If you want someone to be able to finish looting a chest, they can do that in a 10-15s window. If that person is fighting a boss, then tough stuff man! Either you want to do BGs, or you want to fight the boss. I get not wanting to disrupt content for people, especially if the queue takes awhile, but frankly I don't think the wait time on these things will be very long at all with a properly-functioning matchmaking system.

Why are people still asking them to axe the ready check? You want inactive players in BGs and dungeons???

It's broken, no arguing that, but at least I can keep queuing while doing other things instead of getting stuck in a dungeon with afk tank or on a BG team with a couple inactives.

Yes, but to understand why you have to take it a step further. BGs are a widely anticipated/desirable content. There are enough people trying to get into these to have short wait times in a properly-functioning matchmaking system. BGs already have a game system in place to kick inactives quickly after the match starts, and again with a properly-functioning matchmaking system, those spots will be quickly filled as well.

It's not and won't be the same as getting into a dungeon with inactives. And compared to a dungeon, the match will still go on and will finish with or without them. And yeah, maybe it's not a great match because they will need to be replaced part-way through. Worst case in this situation, you have a bad match and move on. You and everyone else still got to participate in the entire BG match however, unlike in dungeons where an MIA player may stop you from progressing.

Yes i do if that means i can actually GET IN A BG OR DUNGEON, CUS ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO ATM!!!

Gravord

Sophieous wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

Then don't queue.

How can it get simpler than that?

You know no one wants the ready check, everyone is BEGGING YOU to remove it for a week to at least TEST IT, not even permanently implement it and all you do is punish the 99% cus you care about the 1%.

If I queue for a bg or a dungeon it's my responsibility and my fault if i dont finish what im doing before it ports me in.
You used to have it like that for two years and it was fine.

So what you are saying is, your ready check code is bugged but you are willing to ignore the 99% that is ready to port it, for the 1% that might not have the chance to? Am i reading correctly???????????

Yes you are, sadly...

Fake Remedy

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

I understand why it makes sense for PvE Group Dungeon Finder. Queuing for Group PvE while doing Open World PvE. How was this logic applied to PvP? As mentioned its not practical to enter and roam Cyrodiil, in between Battleground matches.

DarkLylith

Half hour queue with constantly clicking f ready check every minute or so. Finally get a loadscreen into a match, but only I'm stuck on this loadscreen for like 10 mins only to be kicked back to Deshaan and have a 20 minute penality for deserting. Fix this already!

Zer0oo

Sophieous wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

Then don't queue.

How can it get simpler than that?

You know no one wants the ready check, everyone is BEGGING YOU to remove it for a week to at least TEST IT, not even permanently implement it and all you do is punish the 99% cus you care about the 1%.

If I queue for a bg or a dungeon it's my responsibility and my fault if i dont finish what im doing before it ports me in.
You used to have it like that for two years and it was fine.

So what you are saying is, your ready check code is bugged but you are willing to ignore the 99% that is ready to port it, for the 1% that might not have the chance to? Am i reading correctly???????????

Totally agreed. If the queue works ok you get the first ready check within 2min and i really doubt that you are already doing something so important that you don't want to go in. It could be something else if the queue takes 2h.

Also if you are really worried that someone is in the middle of looting a chest just make it like the old dungeon finder with the 20 sec time you had till you are automatically ported in. At the moment you just spam F and hope to get in.

Raezputin

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

SwaminoNowlino wrote: »

I mean am I reading that wrong? Am I going insane? QUIT LOOKING AT THE MESSAGES. REMOVE THE READY CHECK. AND LET US PLAY.

They need to fix their internal messaging, what you see is just a symptom of that. The ready check is a good idea, and it should work fine once their messaging is fixed. the alternative is you go afk to do one of a million things after being bored waiting 3 min in a queue to come back to a 20 min deserter de-buff and then come to the forums and post about how angry you are that the ready check was removed. Better to make an argument to have a smaller window to click ready in, allowing someone to take a missed spot faster.

This is simply incorrect at almost every level. You're alleging that the messaging is the problem and if its fixed then the queue will fix? No. You get an error message or an exception message when something doesn't fully execute as designed. This is coding 101. In this example, when the group fails to form, the code provides a message as to why. The problem isn't the message, the problem is the group failing to form.

And I don't disagree with the base logic you state about the need for the ready check. But its currently the thing breaking the system. Until its fixed, they should remove it. At that point, if you queue for a battleground, you are agreeing to be ready. If you're not, then that is on you and you get the debuff. I don't like it either, but better to let people access the content they paid for than not.

I think Gina is talking about messaging becouse of they think we are super dumb and by meaning they are fixing messages (what we dumb people are able to see) they are fixing the actual coding or whatever behind it (which is a thing we super dumbest people on planet cant understand)

Zer0oo

DarkLylith wrote: »

Half hour queue with constantly clicking f ready check every minute or so. Finally get a loadscreen into a match, but only I'm stuck on this loadscreen for like 10 mins only to be kicked back to Deshaan and have a 20 minute penality for deserting. Fix this already!

Already made a thread about that but i made the mistake to make it in the right subforum so it will be ignored by ZOS.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/356259/20-min-penalty-after-crashing#latest
Feel free to leave a comment so it doesn't go away from page one.

Raezputin

There´s nothing wrong with working ready check system, but malfunctional one is the worst. I think here who says ready check should go away understands the pros of working ready check, the reason they want it deleted now, is that they want ZOS to take it, work on it until it reliably works and put it back whenever they want. In the meantime people can at least play BGs without ready check. We´ve been using group finder for dungeons all the time before ready check and it worked better after all. Right?

Meld777

Sophieous wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

Then don't queue.

How can it get simpler than that?

You know no one wants the ready check, everyone is BEGGING YOU to remove it for a week to at least TEST IT, not even permanently implement it and all you do is punish the 99% cus you care about the 1%.

If I queue for a bg or a dungeon it's my responsibility and my fault if i dont finish what im doing before it ports me in.
You used to have it like that for two years and it was fine.

So what you are saying is, your ready check code is bugged but you are willing to ignore the 99% that is ready to port it, for the 1% that might not have the chance to? Am i reading correctly???????????

+1 on this one. Every single player I know hates the ready check. In my 2.5 years of playing ESO I haven't met a single person in game who wanted something like this implemented. No one asked for it. What people were asking for was a penalty for leaving and some kind of ELO matchmaking. Neither was delivered. The penalty punishes the wrong people (what if I ditch my group 15 min into the dungeon)? 30 min for leaving and 10 min for getting kicked would've been much more appropriate.

And when people were talking about ready check, they were basically talking about a way to cheat the random dungeon system, so that they could decline tougher dungeons. But joke's on them, the ready check doesn't state the exact dungeon. No one was helped with the current ready check. Everyone hates it. Remove it.

Zer0oo

Meld777 wrote: »

Sophieous wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

Then don't queue.

How can it get simpler than that?

You know no one wants the ready check, everyone is BEGGING YOU to remove it for a week to at least TEST IT, not even permanently implement it and all you do is punish the 99% cus you care about the 1%.

If I queue for a bg or a dungeon it's my responsibility and my fault if i dont finish what im doing before it ports me in.
You used to have it like that for two years and it was fine.

So what you are saying is, your ready check code is bugged but you are willing to ignore the 99% that is ready to port it, for the 1% that might not have the chance to? Am i reading correctly???????????

+1 on this one. Every single player I know hates the ready check. In my 2.5 years of playing ESO I haven't met a single person in game who wanted something like this implemented. No one asked for it. What people were asking for was a penalty for leaving and some kind of ELO matchmaking. Neither was delivered. The penalty punishes the wrong people (what if I ditch my group 15 min into the dungeon)? 30 min for leaving and 10 min for getting kicked would've been much more appropriate.

And when people were talking about ready check, they were basically talking about a way to cheat the random dungeon system, so that they could decline tougher dungeons. But joke's on them, the ready check doesn't state the exact dungeon. No one was helped with the current ready check. Everyone hates it. Remove it.

They needed to implement it because the dungeon finder was broken and you had to wait for hours to get in and by the time you were already doing something else and had completely broken armor, but if you can get in within a few min there is NO ready check needed. Just give ppl 20 sec till the automatically get ported in so they can finish something they may have done in the meantime.

BigES

Ready-Check doesn't even really "help" dungeon queuing. Let's just work through a logical example.

Dungeon queuing is restrictive because of the Tank and Healer roles, right?

So let's imagine a worse case scenario.

You're queued for a dungeon as a DPS. You're going to be in queue FOREVER. It sucks right? Understandably, you might get distracted and want to finish your current task, rather than go to that dungeon now. So you get matched, and you want to leave.

WITH the Ready Check - You decline the ready check. The effect on you as a player is NOTHING. You got what you wanted. You're going to finish your current task. The effect on the team you were supposed to be matched with? NOTHING. There are literally hundreds of DPS is queue. Everyone is waiting on a tank and a healer.

WITHOUT the Ready Check - The game starts forcing you into the dungeon. You leave the group and resume your current task. The effect on you as a player is NOTHING. You got what you wanted. Your'e going to finish your current task. The effect on the team you were supposed to be matched with? NOTHING. There are literally hundreds of DPS is queue. They ask for a replacement DPS and fill that slot almost instantly.

Tanks and healers almost get immediately matches, so the risk of them leaving is VERY minimal. Even if a tank or healer WERE to bail on a dungeon when it starts, its a simple thing to just give priority to active dungeons/events to be filled by the next available tank or healer (or in the case of Battlegrounds - any player).

Sophieous

Meanwhile, on a lovely Saturday afternoon at 6 pm gmt on EU



And that is solo queue. After i randomly got kicked out of another 12 min queue.

But that's ok, cus John Doe might be collecting his treasure chest somewhere in nowheresville and I have to get punished to protect his loot.

Gravord

Sophieous wrote: »

Meanwhile, on a lovely Saturday afternoon at 6 pm gmt on EU



And that is solo queue. After i randomly got kicked out of another 12 min queue.

But that's ok, cus John Doe might be collecting his treasure chest somewhere in nowheresville and I have to get punished to protect his loot.

ZOS priorities.

timidobserver

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

You guys need to decide who is more important. That 1 person that is too busy to go into a BG even though they knowingly queued up for a BG or the other 11 people that are starring at "someone declined the queue" 20 times before they finally get into a match.

I am hesitant to make this suggestion because the implementation will be bugged and the mini deserter penalties will be given out to people erroneously, but......people that decline a BG queue pop need to be given a mini deserter penalty. Not the full deserter pentalty but maybe 2-3 minutes. That way they are encouraged to be ready when their queue pops. Please don't give this to people that crash.....

Feanor

Early access for Morrowind started May 22nd. Since then it has been 6 weeks and 5 patches that didn't fix the issues. We're told there is no patch scheduled for tomorrow, just a regular maintenance.

I was watching German pay TV yesterday. ZOS can afford 10 second trailers for Morrowind in between Game of Thrones episodes. They don't fix their game. It's embarrassing.

ChunkyCat

Sophieous wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

MopeyHat wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

Normally I champion for the more relaxed, casual players in ESO, despite my progressive nature. However, if we're going to stick to a queue system for BGs, it should not be subordinated to random "busy work" that any particular individual may seek to fill the time. As soon as someone enters into a game system that involves other players, a utilitarian approach is more appropriate. One person who decides they weren't actually ready does so to the detriment of all others involved. That person should not be allowed to dictate whether or not others get into a group.

Ready-checks should be done away with in favor of a delayed forced teleport. If you want someone to be able to finish looting a chest, they can do that in a 10-15s window. If that person is fighting a boss, then tough stuff man! Either you want to do BGs, or you want to fight the boss. I get not wanting to disrupt content for people, especially if the queue takes awhile, but frankly I don't think the wait time on these things will be very long at all with a properly-functioning matchmaking system.

Why are people still asking them to axe the ready check? You want inactive players in BGs and dungeons???

It's broken, no arguing that, but at least I can keep queuing while doing other things instead of getting stuck in a dungeon with afk tank or on a BG team with a couple inactives.

Yes, but to understand why you have to take it a step further. BGs are a widely anticipated/desirable content. There are enough people trying to get into these to have short wait times in a properly-functioning matchmaking system. BGs already have a game system in place to kick inactives quickly after the match starts, and again with a properly-functioning matchmaking system, those spots will be quickly filled as well.

It's not and won't be the same as getting into a dungeon with inactives. And compared to a dungeon, the match will still go on and will finish with or without them. And yeah, maybe it's not a great match because they will need to be replaced part-way through. Worst case in this situation, you have a bad match and move on. You and everyone else still got to participate in the entire BG match however, unlike in dungeons where an MIA player may stop you from progressing.

Yes i do if that means i can actually GET IN A BG OR DUNGEON, CUS ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO ATM!!!

False.

ChunkyCat

timidobserver wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

You guys need to decide who is more important. That 1 person that is too busy to go into a BG even though they knowingly queued up for a BG or the other 11 people that are starring at "someone declined the queue" 20 times before they finally get into a match.

I am hesitant to make this suggestion because the implementation will be bugged and the mini deserter penalties will be given out to people erroneously, but......people that decline a BG queue pop need to be given a mini deserter penalty. Not the full deserter pentalty but maybe 2-3 minutes. That way they are encouraged to be ready when their queue pops. Please don't give this to people that crash.....

That actually makes sense.

Gravord

Feanor wrote: »

Early access for Morrowind started May 22nd. Since then it has been 6 weeks and 5 patches that didn't fix the issues. We're told there is no patch scheduled for tomorrow, just a regular maintenance.

I was watching German pay TV yesterday. ZOS can afford 10 second trailers for Morrowind in between Game of Thrones episodes. They don't fix their game. It's embarrassing.

Priorities...

AhPook_Is_Here

Feanor wrote: »

Early access for Morrowind started May 22nd. Since then it has been 6 weeks and 5 patches that didn't fix the issues. We're told there is no patch scheduled for tomorrow, just a regular maintenance.

I was watching German pay TV yesterday. ZOS can afford 10 second trailers for Morrowind in between Game of Thrones episodes. They don't fix their game. It's embarrassing.

LOL you pay for TV in Germany and you have to watch commercials? That's rough. Guess the shining of the shining city on the hill was just advertising impressions.

Sheey

I pay for radio and TV as well even tho I don't use it.

TequilaFire

You pay for cable and see commercials in the US.
Miss the good ole days when cable didn't have commercials.

AhPook_Is_Here

TequilaFire wrote: »

You pay for cable and see commercials in the US.
Miss the good ole days when cable didn't have commercials.

Cable! People subscribe to that? Even if you don't to use popcorn time or something like that and you go amazon with a few channels or Netflix the worst you will see is a 15 second promotion for other movies or shows from the same marketing channel.

But yeah, who would pay 200 a month for cable just to watch ads? When I think of pay TV I think of destinations like the aforementioned ones or Hulu, not cable or satellite. Sorry to get off track!

Sheey

Every serious company has something like a business plan with priorities for the upcoming year. Things go wrong and might take more time as expected. Usually a company decites to set 'further' priorities if something happens that delayes this plan. Further priorities means nothing else as taking more time for the current problem that has been found. The plan delays but the priority will be fixed first inbefor continueing the business plan. Except Zenimax, they continue releasing content even though the content released has major issues in functionality.

Zenimax confirmes the rule.

exeeter702

timidobserver wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Is it possible can you explain why we need a ready check?Can you remove the ready check that should greatly improve people issue of getting into BG.

We implemented a Ready Check to give players an out in case they simply aren't ready to be ported to a Battleground. If you're in the middle of completing a quest for example, or looting a Treasure Chest, or killing a boss - you may not be ready to be taken away from that activity as soon as a Battleground is ready to begin. By declining the Ready Check, you're essentially telling our system that it should find someone else to replace you and you don't want to be ported yet. Not having this means someone could suddenly be taken away from something they were in the middle of doing, which could also lead to players immediately leaving as soon as a Battleground begins to return to their prior activity, impacting all the other teams.


Edit: Made a small clarification.

You guys need to decide who is more important. That 1 person that is too busy to go into a BG even though they knowingly queued up for a BG or the other 11 people that are starring at "someone declined the queue" 20 times before they finally get into a match.

I am hesitant to make this suggestion because the implementation will be bugged and the mini deserter penalties will be given out to people erroneously, but......people that decline a BG queue pop need to be given a mini deserter penalty. Not the full deserter pentalty but maybe 2-3 minutes. That way they are encouraged to be ready when their queue pops. Please don't give this to people that crash.....

You speak as if the ready check feature itslef is the crux of the issue. The fact that the message pops up when no one is declining the ready check in some scenarios im the group finder says alot. Something is majorily borked well under the hood that has nothing to do with people declining the ready check.

Also lets not forget for nearly the entirety of dark brotherhood, the dungeon group finder was broken (this was before ready check was implemented.)

There are alot of issues with the group finder. The ready check feature itself iself is not one of them.

Tavore1138

So... solo Qs are now eternal too, great fixes from the 'press f online' team!

DrSweetazz

@ZOS_GinaBruno that reasoning is so broken given how your group finder works.

I strongly believe that it's broken beyond how it's supposed to operate in that I sincerely doubt someone is missing the queue every time, for half an hour of accepting ready checks on console.

If a person queues for battlegrounds, that should serve as a ready check imo. The way you have it now, it punishes 11 other people if someone is "too busy killing a boss". If you want the ready check for that, fine, but instantly replace that one person rather than requeuing everyone else.

Even if your system is working as it should, that's a garbage way of handling someone who queued for bg and suddenly decided they aren't ready.

I know you don't make the final decisions, but the hatred for the system in place is overwhelming. You guys should take the ready check out until you can fix it and come up with a system that doesn't punish 11 other players because someone needs to "loot a chest".

Mayorz

we all need a refund or compensation for this 2 month downtime for something we payed for, nice false advertising.

Avran_Sylt

Sophieous wrote: »

Meanwhile, on a lovely Saturday afternoon at 6 pm gmt on EU



And that is solo queue. After i randomly got kicked out of another 12 min queue.

But that's ok, cus John Doe might be collecting his treasure chest somewhere in nowheresville and I have to get punished to protect his loot.

What was your role? Just posting an image with a witty quote will do absolutely nothing.

Avran_Sylt

DrSweetazz wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno that reasoning is so broken given how your group finder works.

I strongly believe that it's broken beyond how it's supposed to operate in that I sincerely doubt someone is missing the queue every time, for half an hour of accepting ready checks on console.

If a person queues for battlegrounds, that should serve as a ready check imo. The way you have it now, it punishes 11 other people if someone is "too busy killing a boss". If you want the ready check for that, fine, but instantly replace that one person rather than requeuing everyone else.

Even if your system is working as it should, that's a garbage way of handling someone who queued for bg and suddenly decided they aren't ready.

I know you don't make the final decisions, but the hatred for the system in place is overwhelming. You guys should take the ready check out until you can fix it and come up with a system that doesn't punish 11 other players because someone needs to "loot a chest".

It places you at the front of the queue....... If it was working as intended (which seemingly it currently isn't), so the 'loss' is a little extra time in order to 'gain' an active player rather than an inactive player, which could also be a scenario.

LordSlif

still broken btw