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**POLL FOR ZOS** Are you happy with the number of housing slots to furnish your home?

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  • Leogon
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    No.
    Domino44G wrote: »
    @ZOS_RichLambert
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    As we mentioned when the system launched, the caps are there for performance reasons. We all want the caps to be higher as well and are working to find ways to try and raise them in the future.

    Here’s an idea: how’s about adding ambient light spheres in each room to cut down on the amount of physical lights needed to light up a room. Or, at least make each light source spread farther. There’s an idea.
    No. I like to decide how much lighting I want in a room and where I want it in the room.
  • Chrlynsch
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    Werewolf cave needs more tunnels and treessss!
    Caius
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  • Chianah1956
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    No.

    Crazy tiny limits on Goronir Estate!
  • Aurie
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    reiverx wrote: »
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    As we mentioned when the system launched, the caps are there for performance reasons. We all want the caps to be higher as well and are working to find ways to try and raise them in the future.

    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
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    In this update, we’ve been hard at work improving the performance of the client. We’ve overhauled how the client handles animations, significantly reducing memory requirements. Additionally, we’ve made significant optimizations to the Scene Graph. Together, these two additions have resulted in significant gains in frame rate and improved load times into areas with many characters and/or buildings.
    • Made improvements to the overall frame rate.
    • Improved load times into areas with many characters and/or buildings.
    • Fixed a number of infrequent game crashes.

    We are looking forward to the new item limit.

    Indeed!!!

    They won't be able to use that excuse now....

  • Armatesz
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    No.
    As a decorator myself I get severely hampered on my creativity on what I could possibly do. I do think doubling everything as it currently is would more than likely fix this for most people. The majority of really awesome ideas use about double the limit for said home easily.
    Ärmätèsz
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  • lasertooth
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    The only way I've found to decorate a home the way I want is to buy a manor and then block off 80%. Create a small cozy house inside a big one by blocking doors and hallways with rocks. Boom, now you have a staple home with 700 slot limit. Lol.

    The item limit is sooooooo ridiculously low. This is the only fix I've found even an ounce of satisfaction with.
    LasertoothGM of ESO Grand Designs, Grand Designs Too, and Grand Designs Trinity Xbox/NA
  • Calderon06
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    I've bought the Linchal's Manor recently and i made a Big Arena around the Imperial Temple at the right, add more tree, made a daedric temple in the mill and decorate the manor himself with a war room, Trophies room, bank, Tavern.

    The Arena itself take around 400 slot / 700 (i'm eso+).
    It was first made with lot of Khajiit's Arch before make wall with daedric's platforms.

    We need more than just one stone to put on an other stone.

    Like Donald Trump, WE NEED WALL already construct and more slots to make our imagination great again!

    (sorry for my english)
    VV
  • lasertooth
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    Calderon06 wrote: »
    I've bought the Linchal's Manor recently and i made a Big Arena around the Imperial Temple at the right, add more tree, made a daedric temple in the mill and decorate the manor himself with a war room, Trophies room, bank, Tavern.

    The Arena itself take around 400 slot / 700 (i'm eso+).
    It was first made with lot of Khajiit's Arch before make wall with daedric's platforms.

    We need more than just one stone to put on an other stone.

    Like Donald Trump, WE NEED WALL already construct and more slots to make our imagination great again!

    (sorry for my english)

    I bought the manor too, and I blocked off the entire yard. The little pond is the walkway to the house, which oh, yeah, I also blocked that off completely. The side yards....completely blocked off. And I built a dragon and a castle and a cindarella carriage scene instead. :)

    If you want to make an arena, I would just close off the entire house. And make your arena EPIC. :)

    Happy building. :)
    LasertoothGM of ESO Grand Designs, Grand Designs Too, and Grand Designs Trinity Xbox/NA
  • Aurie
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    lasertooth wrote: »
    Calderon06 wrote: »
    I've bought the Linchal's Manor recently and i made a Big Arena around the Imperial Temple at the right, add more tree, made a daedric temple in the mill and decorate the manor himself with a war room, Trophies room, bank, Tavern.

    The Arena itself take around 400 slot / 700 (i'm eso+).
    It was first made with lot of Khajiit's Arch before make wall with daedric's platforms.

    We need more than just one stone to put on an other stone.

    Like Donald Trump, WE NEED WALL already construct and more slots to make our imagination great again!

    (sorry for my english)

    I bought the manor too, and I blocked off the entire yard. The little pond is the walkway to the house, which oh, yeah, I also blocked that off completely. The side yards....completely blocked off. And I built a dragon and a castle and a cindarella carriage scene instead. :)

    If you want to make an arena, I would just close off the entire house. And make your arena EPIC. :)

    Happy building. :)

    So sad we are forced into making those choices.
  • RANKK7
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    No.
    No word on this yet, eh? No one came back to clarify that short comment or at least give a straight answer to the questions that followed.

    It's like talking to the wall on this, no answer and no use. Some people I know so involved into housing, lost interest by now, I still have some only for the small houses, in other words: the non empty ones.

    Edited by RANKK7 on October 7, 2017 5:52AM
    lll
    "I really don't know who the **** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
    lll
  • STEVIL
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    Yes, I don't even use all of my furnishing slots.
    i myself am pondering if the growing number of really YUGE furnishings from luxury vendor etc are a nod to helping to fill up more space with fewer furnishings.
    Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
    YFMV Your Fun May Vary.

    First Law of Nerf-o-Dynamics
    "The good way I used to get good kills *with good skill* was good but the way others kill me now is bad."

  • Aurie
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    STEVIL wrote: »
    i myself am pondering if the growing number of really YUGE furnishings from luxury vendor etc are a nod to helping to fill up more space with fewer furnishings.

    That’s all very well, but we need large furnishings to be available with plenty of choice, craftable and buyable from the crown store. Otherwise there is still no real choice, and the nod doesn’t mean much.

    Edit: Also although larger pieces of furniture do fit better in larger homes, they still need to be in scale with our characters and appropriate for normal decorations. I hope they are doing that.

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    Edited by Aurie on October 7, 2017 8:33PM
  • Jamdarius
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    I definitly wish to have 4x 700 slots in my homes, it's just impossible to furnish those mansions with just 700 slots...

    I loved Linchal Grand Manor but I did not buy it... only because it would be impossible to fill that huge space with only 700 slots... Think about it before you guys make another huge home with such limited space for furnishings.

    PS: Even my smallest (my opinion) mansion Serenity Falls Estate can't be furnished like I want with just 700 furnishings... I can do so much more but don't have enough slots.
  • Shadzilla
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    Jamdarius wrote: »
    I definitly wish to have 4x 700 slots in my homes, it's just impossible to furnish those mansions with just 700 slots...

    I loved Linchal Grand Manor but I did not buy it... only because it would be impossible to fill that huge space with only 700 slots... Think about it before you guys make another huge home with such limited space for furnishings.

    PS: Even my smallest (my opinion) mansion Serenity Falls Estate can't be furnished like I want with just 700 furnishings... I can do so much more but don't have enough slots.

    It is quite sad to say the least.
  • Aurie
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    One of the saddest things about it is that @ZO$ almost certainly have this well and truly on the back-burner. Will it ever move to the top of the list?

    Whilst I understand that there are many other issues such as game stability, balancing, and bugs to fix....not to mention the myriad of other stuff that people want addressed....I really hope that they remember, and consider important, the fact that housing has become a relatively large part of the game. And we housing enthusiasts shove a heck of a lot of cash over the counter at them.

    It's depressing that apart from one brief post that actually smacked of BS, no attempt has been made by anyone from @ZO$ to keep us in the picture, and re-assure us that they are working on raising the item limit (and not just vaguely some time in the 'future'). And that they might even be considering giving us a furniture bag, which would go a long way towards keeping us happier while we wait.

    Incidentally, when was the last time that @ZO$ posted on any subject telling us what they were thinking of doing, what they thought of our ideas and requests...general feedback I believe it is called. The only times I recall seeing them post recently were to moderate the forum. Well sorry @ZO$, that may be a part of running a gaming forum just to keep it civilised, but there are many other issues which are every bit as important, and which you should be addressing.

  • Shadzilla
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »
    It’s impossible. There is so much I want to do but can’t because I’m so limited. It’s insanely annoying.

    That is exactly how 90% of the rest of population feel.
  • MercTheMage
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    As we mentioned when the system launched, the caps are there for performance reasons. We all want the caps to be higher as well and are working to find ways to try and raise them in the future.

    How do you explain eso+ members getting double space then?

    Either the reason youre providing us is ***, or youre intentionally punishing non sub accounts with a ridiculously limited amount of space in big [snip] houses... So which is it?

    [Edited to remove profanity]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on November 4, 2017 8:52PM
    You just going to stand there like a lemon?
  • Aliyavana
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
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  • doslekis
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    No.
    Wait, you guys only get 700 slots for a manor sized home with eso plus? I can just barley make 400 work in bouldertree refuge. And that's just two snugpods in a small yard.
    I don't normally use daggers, but when I do, I choose dos Lekis.
  • Sera67
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    No.
    No, basic no... ish.

    Small ones, need 20-40ish more.
    Thou few of the 15 capped ones, Should be 20ish default. Thou I made due with 30 with eso+

    50 for Flaming Nix was kinda unsult, Thou at 100 with eso+ I felt short about 20 slots.

    My main home, Domas in Craglorn, As Dwemer Cave... 200 base is way to low, 400 max is 150short of what I could push.

    I've redone it several times, and each time in final 350/400 items, I end up having take down 70-80 items to finish it off. Or take away a section and block it off.

    Velothi Reverie, I had block off two rooms upstairs, and ignore garden to make it look not half empty at 200 slots.
    At 400, I kept upstairs rooms blocked off, was no way I was making this home anything like I wanted.

    I've helped a few people in my guild decorate Manors, and its just sad. You end up leaving massive empty areas. I've made decent due with few of them at 700. I've yet to pull plug on one.
    If they add 100 slots to Domas P. house, I will scream in joy and explode into confetti.

    Flaming nix from 50 to 75base (so 150 with eso+) I could get last 2 tables in and I'd be so happy.

    Most of base 15 slot rooms, to 20 (40) would be enough.

    Most of Manors with 700, seem to need 200 to 400 more base.

    I wanted the Island.. but low item count really turned me off.
  • monktoasty
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    They could make slots account wide..meaning..if you have two.houses that's how many slots you have..you could use more in one than the other or just leave one empty.

    Or they could just aDD more slots but there must be a reason they won't do it. Maybe seriver storage space is prohibitive
  • Silufadumar
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    No.
    Many of the homes available, especially the larger ones, have an outside space and an inside space. If we take a manor as an example, we can fill the outside space with all 700 available item slots. We can instead, fill the inside space with all 700 item slots.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno Since the reason for no item limit increases has been said (not by you Gina, but another Zos staff member) to be a performance issue, why not make the inside and outside areas of a home seperate instances? I think most players would gladly put up with a loading screen going to and from the inside/outside areas of their homes, if it meant they had double the item limit to use!

    I'm no programmer, but this seems like a relatively simple idea to implement, it is surely done every time a delve or dungeon or other instance is made. Am I wrong?
  • Aurie
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    No. Trying to properly decorate a manor/big home with just 700 slots, as an eso plus member, is not even remotely possible.
    I don't understand how this so-called performance issue works.

    Why is it fine to have max 400 items in a medium housing instance (some of which are tiny, and don't even have an outside), and yet the max allocation of items for a massive large or notable housing instance with extensive grounds is only 600 or 700?

    It seems completely out of proportion, and I don't see the logic there.

    No use asking @ZO$ as they won't reply, so could someone enlighten me please?
  • Orticia
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    MercTheMage wrote: »
    ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
    As we mentioned when the system launched, the caps are there for performance reasons. We all want the caps to be higher as well and are working to find ways to try and raise them in the future.

    How do you explain eso+ members getting double space then?

    Either the reason youre providing us is ***, or youre intentionally punishing non sub accounts with a ridiculously limited amount of space in big [snip] houses... So which is it?

    [Edited to remove profanity]

    I do want higher itemcounts for everyone.

    I think it might be both. If it is indeed performance issues I think they take the 700 as the most they can squeeze out now performance wise. And just go percentage wise down for smaller houses to make them seem more balanced compared to each other, so no longer for performance issues. And yes I do believe that NON-ESO+ gets half to push ESO+ by making non-ESO+ extremely itemcount limited, halved. As this can't be due to performance issues as the only difference in the houses are account status, nothing in performances changes with that.

    wish they didn't punish non-eso+ with a tiny itemcount. I think all should get the present max itemcount for the house-type, and give housing related bonuses to ESO+, like ESO+ exclusive furniture, a in house bank-enabled chest that only works as long as the subscription is active and so on. Nice bonuses, but still keeping Non-ESO housing as system for creatively decorating a house interesting. As i think actually decorating the house is the base of housing, what is the point otherwise.
    Edited by Orticia on November 22, 2017 5:55PM
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