Campaigns for Morrowind

WRX · May 2017

Enodoc wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Emothic wrote: »

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Sp no cp PvP basically removes the need for "hard work" in oder to remain competitive and have fun. Isn't that a good thing?

Yes. It means the distinction between players is based on player skill, not on raw power. Which is certainly a good thing.

I don't agree with this at all. As someone mentioned, non-CP is essentially proc sets, insane burst from ultis (worst than CP), and poison procs. Siege is OP, but I dont entirely mind that to some degree. Its going to get worse however.

Additionally, ZoS just did a complete re-work on the CP system, not only making the overall power creep lower, but also front loading and combining some of the most vital CP lines, and normalizing all resources after 300CP. They actually did a good job. At this point discussing "raw power" of a player seems nearly irrelevant. If you have 300cp, chances are you would fair better in CP than non-CP. Even 200. If you are at 100, then well RIP, see you in skyreach.

They have attempted to build the game around CP, making changes to sustain to try and balance with Morrowind as well. Now, CP in Morrowind plays more like non-CP of today. The non-CP we will have will feel unbalanced outside of a small-scale setting.

apostate9 · May 2017

ADarklore wrote: »

What I think sucks is that those of us who only go to Cyrodiil for the delves and skyshards, we're pretty much limited to Vivec unless we want to really struggle with every PvE battle. I know last time I went through delves on non-CP campaign it was a royal pain just to get down the delve and back up- whereas switching over to a CP campaign- the battles became more like regular open-world delves. In all honesty, I wish they would just offer a PvE-only Cyrodiil so those of us who have no interest in PvP can go to do regular PvE quests, delves and anchors without worrying the entire time about being ganked and then forced to rez at some some far-off wayshrine.

Nope.

llSRRll · May 2017

@Stridig "Those people have clearly never had a hard days work in their life" your words not mine.

Stridig · May 2017

llSRRll wrote: »

@Stridig "Those people have clearly never had a hard days work in their life" your words not mine.

What people though? You can't clip a portion out to fit your argument. Everybody here can read. The point of my conversation with you is that there is no need to be rude and condescending to people. It's ok if you don't like my statement. You don't have to be a tough guy to earn respect around here.

Karm1cOne · May 2017

I think a lot of people will play no cp due to battlegrounds being no cp. No swapping builds between cyrodiil and battlegrounds.

Yung_deezy818 · May 2017

So *** everyone on ps4 na who likes 7 day cp camps is what your saying right? Why does xbox get a 7 day cp but pc and ps4 don't please explain

KingJ · May 2017

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

So *** everyone on ps4 na who likes 7 day cp camps is what your saying right? Why does xbox get a 7 day cp but pc and ps4 don't please explain

We have more players.

Yung_deezy818 · May 2017

KingJ wrote: »

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

So *** everyone on ps4 na who likes 7 day cp camps is what your saying right? Why does xbox get a 7 day cp but pc and ps4 don't please explain

We have more players.

Sounds stupid af to gimp the rest servers on no 7 day cp

polarbehr76 · May 2017

these names and changes suck

KingJ · May 2017

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

So *** everyone on ps4 na who likes 7 day cp camps is what your saying right? Why does xbox get a 7 day cp but pc and ps4 don't please explain

We have more players.

Sounds stupid af to gimp the rest servers on no 7 day cp

Not really its obvious if you think about it the other servers don't have enough players to house another server.

FluffyReachWitch · May 2017

I am one of those wimps who's already used to non-CP campaigns, and I get the fact that there is Vvardenfell DLC hype, but... the Tribunal and a couple of Atmoran gods? Names a bit more neutral or related to Cyrodiil would probably be more fitting.

Kerioko · May 2017

I am concerned at how this is going to affect IC in Had. This is a great place to go to farm telvar and do small scale PVP.

With the loss of CP, bosses and mobs will be 50%+ more dangerous, meaning you will need more people to kill them and telvar gaining rates will be lower.

I see this promoting zerging in IC, and the price of all IC sets skyrocketing because telvar will be harder to come by.

Another unintended side effect is some telvar farmers will move from had to TF since it is the only CP. This will cause even longer ques and cause population in balance for factions that have a lot of players in IC.

Paganini · May 2017

I like this change.. You guys are simply not able to balance the cp's.
But one important question:

When will you fix/nerf proc-sets then?! Currently everyone knows, proc-sets are absolutly OP an No-CP campaign.
Also posions are to strong currently. For example imagine fighting in BG's 4vs4vs4.. That means in the worst case there are 8 enemys all playing with those pervert tri-posions...

Enodoc · May 2017

llSRRll wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Emothic wrote: »

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Sp no cp PvP basically removes the need for "hard work" in oder to remain competitive and have fun. Isn't that a good thing?

Yes. It means the distinction between players is based on player skill, not on raw power. Which is certainly a good thing.

Again it's an MMO your suppose to be rewarded for playing more. If you want a game that only rewards button mashing fastest go play COD.

Your reward for playing PvP is AP, resulting in new items, leaderboards, AvA rank, and the advancement of the PvP skill lines. There's a reason that you're given the opponent's AvA rank rather than their CP level in death recap. (It's because their level is not supposed to be as significant as their rank.)

DisgracefulMind · May 2017

WRX wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Emothic wrote: »

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Sp no cp PvP basically removes the need for "hard work" in oder to remain competitive and have fun. Isn't that a good thing?

Yes. It means the distinction between players is based on player skill, not on raw power. Which is certainly a good thing.

I don't agree with this at all. As someone mentioned, non-CP is essentially proc sets, insane burst from ultis (worst than CP), and poison procs. Siege is OP, but I dont entirely mind that to some degree. Its going to get worse however.

Additionally, ZoS just did a complete re-work on the CP system, not only making the overall power creep lower, but also front loading and combining some of the most vital CP lines, and normalizing all resources after 300CP. They actually did a good job. At this point discussing "raw power" of a player seems nearly irrelevant. If you have 300cp, chances are you would fair better in CP than non-CP. Even 200. If you are at 100, then well RIP, see you in skyreach.

They have attempted to build the game around CP, making changes to sustain to try and balance with Morrowind as well. Now, CP in Morrowind plays more like non-CP of today. The non-CP we will have will feel unbalanced outside of a small-scale setting.

Outside of farming new players which automatically migrate to noCP when they start PvPing often, you mean

When I played no-CP, that's almost all it was. Farming the new players. Players who don't even know how to CC break. Just use your OP sets on them and they melt. And, let's be honest, this is what has ultimately attracted most people to noCP often enough. It feels "balanced" because you farm new players and pvers nonstop, you make massive AP, and it's pretty fun and easy to ignore all other issues going on with the game. Hey, I like farming them too, but at least in CP I can fight actual "veteran" players too as the majority.

If ZoS wants to remove CP from PvP they need to do it right. They need to actually rebalance PvP and separate it from PvE finally. Because just removing a system that is now tied to all core mechanics of the game is extremely lazy.

JamieAubrey · May 2017

So Vivec is the new TF ?

Sallington · May 2017

JamieAubrey wrote: »

So Vivec is the new TF ?

Yup, just with new and improved queue times.

JamieAubrey · May 2017

Sallington wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

So Vivec is the new TF ?

Yup, just with new and improved queue times.

Don't want to go setting home as the wrong one now :P

WRX · May 2017

@DisgracefulMind

Yes for sure lol

Yung_deezy818 · May 2017

KingJ wrote: »

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

So *** everyone on ps4 na who likes 7 day cp camps is what your saying right? Why does xbox get a 7 day cp but pc and ps4 don't please explain

We have more players.

Sounds stupid af to gimp the rest servers on no 7 day cp

Not really its obvious if you think about it the other servers don't have enough players to house another server.

They easily do when there's only 1 cp camp lol. Most prefer cp play vs no cp only 1 cp camp plenty of room for 1 cp 7 day too

Crom_CCCXVI · May 2017

I can only speak for PS4,.

NO ONE PLAYS NON CHAMP POINT CAMPAIGNS, the zero bars means "Empty" right?

I'm assuming you've increased the capacity of the servers, because on Friday night when the que for Vivec is 200+ people, and we are waiting an hour to get in, I'll probably just quit your game.. (especially after it crashes, and I get knocked to the back of your Que again)

KingJ · May 2017

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

KingJ wrote: »

Yung_deezy818 wrote: »

So *** everyone on ps4 na who likes 7 day cp camps is what your saying right? Why does xbox get a 7 day cp but pc and ps4 don't please explain

We have more players.

Sounds stupid af to gimp the rest servers on no 7 day cp

Not really its obvious if you think about it the other servers don't have enough players to house another server.

They easily do when there's only 1 cp camp lol. Most prefer cp play vs no cp only 1 cp camp plenty of room for 1 cp 7 day too

If there was enough room Zos would have added it.You don't have the population for it.

Enodoc · May 2017

I wonder if ZOS looked at home campaign assignments to make this decision, rather than actual PvP participation.

mwo1480 · May 2017

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

New Campaigns (the following are for all Platforms, all Regions):
• Almalexia - Ruleset: 7 day Non-Champ
• Sotha Sil – Ruleset: 30 day Non-Champ
• Vivec – Ruleset: 30 day Champ
• Kyne – Ruleset: 7 day lvl10-49 Non-Champ

In addition to the above, Xbox NA will also have the following Campaign added:
• Shor – Ruleset: 7 day Champ

Why is Xbox NA the only one getting a 7 day champ campaign??? it's a bit unfair!!
I loved the 7day champ on eu pc server, now i have to go 30 champ wich i dont want as i dont do pvp so many days,
or go 7 day non champ wich sucks, well pvp is ruined for me but that isnt the problem (still love pve, just no more ap for me for gold trader),
But just explain why only XBox NA gets a good fun campain, and not the rest

Maryal · May 2017

Hmmm ... well ... I already know what it's like to play a no CP campaign ... I am, however, curious to find out what a campaign will be like with the new/adjusted CP given all the skill / armor / resource nerfs. Maybe it will be fun, or maybe it will end up be dominated by those whose name(s) we will not mention.

EdmundTowers · May 2017

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

So I'm assuming the campaigns won't end at their regular times and instead they will end at the time the patch is implemented. If that's the case, can you tell us at what exact time will the patch be implemented on 5/22?

NBrookus · May 2017

Reading forums because I've been in queue 45 minutes. Guildies complaining lag is awful so I suspect I won't bother playing for long.

If no CP is the future, just rip the bandaid off already, because balancing proc sets, poisons, and one shot invisible cold fire siege in no CP shouldn't be delayed.

mvffins · May 2017

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I believe during the last update XBOX NA had two 7 day camp campaigns removed and now we have 2 pop locked 7 day champ campaigns, and not just pop-locked for one faction, usually 2 or all 3 factions at once.

I'm surprised though that other platforms or regions aren't getting a 7 day champ either...does this mean that Xbox NA has a the biggest playerbase or most active pvp atm?

dem0n1k · May 2017

Training traits in the gear from RotW emails makes me sad

Ammene · May 2017

Vivec is completely unplayable in EU. Three crashes in one hour.. Three server crashes where it sent every player to the character screen and there was a roll back. And Vivec was not even completely full that point.

Almalexia has no population, the 30 day no cp has no population. Is this maybe something ZOS should have considered? No?