Campaigns for Morrowind

Emothic

Actually, you know what. ZoS quit being such lazy fat a---- and learn how to balance different combat aspects of your game. All you guys do is just take the laziest way you can out of a proper PvE/PvP balance. And now since Battlegrounds are non-cp, you are again taking the laziest way you can by making almost all of PvP non-cp. You white collar office employees are some of the laziest and worthless type of employees in the workforce. I can only imagine what you would be like if you did some real back breaking blue collar work.

jamesfaine_ESO

So now that you have made it so that PVP players who want to use their toons with the CP that they have worked to earn over the past year or so will not be able to play reliably do to insane ques, I would like a refund on my preorder. For real. You have damaged the product before delivery. Hopefully since I ordered through Amazon I can get my money back.

I fully believe ZOS waited so long to announce this because they new there would be a huge backlash. ZOS new it would hurt presales among PVP'ers and they withheld this information to cheat folks out of their money. I am done as a subscriber, after having been with you since beta.

Enodoc

llSRRll wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Also, personal attacks against Brian or any of our other developers will not be tolerated. You don't need to sugarcoat your posts, but please leave personal attacks and outright bashing out of it.

How else are we going to express our displeasure with what you are doing?

Surely you can express displeasure without insulting people? Insults aren't needed to make a point. "This isn't a good idea because...." is a lot more useful than "ZOS_Dev is an idiot, this will never work."

Stridig

I can understand people being upset about changes that don't favor their point of view. On the other hand, it is only a game. I have read many posts about people who have worked so hard for their CP. Those people have clearly never had a hard days work in their life if they think playing a video game is comparable to work in any way. Makes me giggle.

KingJ

To everyone upset this is for you
https://youtu.be/xzpndHtdl9A

Minno

llSRRll wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Kyne is a level 10-49 campaign with a 7-day duration (the first post has been updated to reflect, sorry about that!)

Also, personal attacks against Brian or any of our other developers will not be tolerated. You don't need to sugarcoat your posts, but please leave personal attacks and outright bashing out of it.

How else are we going to express our displeasure with what you are doing? Your nerfing the game into the ground to make up for CP's that you where so high on almost a year ago. Then realize they are too strong for the content that is already out there but instead of making newer harder content you just make the old stuff harder by nerfing us. Why the hell are we still accumulating CP's when we are at max anyways? Then comes this, you force us into one 30 day campaign bc lets be serious nobody wants to play without CP. You have made us work for them and we want to use them. Then you come out with Battlegrounds and make them non-cp smh. Your going to lose a lot of loyal player who have been playing for a very long time and you'll never get enough newer players to off set that.

Outright bashing is not the same as critique.

It's just a game. Just walk away if you feel the urge to hurt people to get your point across.

Astanphaeus

timidobserver wrote: »

Prediction: 150 queue on Vivek everyday.

That seems like an underestimation...

Jammer480

Stridig wrote: »

I can understand people being upset about changes that don't favor their point of view. On the other hand, it is only a game. I have read many posts about people who have worked so hard for their CP. Those people have clearly never had a hard days work in their life if they think playing a video game is comparable to work in any way. Makes me giggle.

So true...

Emothic

Stridig wrote: »

I can understand people being upset about changes that don't favor their point of view. On the other hand, it is only a game. I have read many posts about people who have worked so hard for their CP. Those people have clearly never had a hard days work in their life if they think playing a video game is comparable to work in any way. Makes me giggle.

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

ADarklore

What I think sucks is that those of us who only go to Cyrodiil for the delves and skyshards, we're pretty much limited to Vivec unless we want to really struggle with every PvE battle. I know last time I went through delves on non-CP campaign it was a royal pain just to get down the delve and back up- whereas switching over to a CP campaign- the battles became more like regular open-world delves. In all honesty, I wish they would just offer a PvE-only Cyrodiil so those of us who have no interest in PvP can go to do regular PvE quests, delves and anchors without worrying the entire time about being ganked and then forced to rez at some some far-off wayshrine.

Sallington

Joy_Division wrote: »

Typical ZoS: Even though more people play CP than no CP, they completely disregard the majority and change a CP campaign into a No CP campaign.

Don't tell me the q is under 25. Last weekend spend an hour waiting for an 90+ q on red.

Here is how that decision came down:

[snip]

[edited for misinformation/bashing]

LOL.

If there's one person I trust on the forums to not throw around misinformation, it's Joy.

Rianai

Emothic wrote: »

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Sp no cp PvP basically removes the need for "hard work" in oder to remain competitive and have fun. Isn't that a good thing?

Enodoc

Rianai wrote: »

Emothic wrote: »

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Sp no cp PvP basically removes the need for "hard work" in oder to remain competitive and have fun. Isn't that a good thing?

Yes. It means the distinction between players is based on player skill, not on raw power. Which is certainly a good thing.

Publius_Scipio

Rianai wrote: »

Emothic wrote: »

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Sp no cp PvP basically removes the need for "hard work" in oder to remain competitive and have fun. Isn't that a good thing?

Right now it's more monster set procs, destro ult, CP, poisons, pirate skeleton, Miat's addon, that are keeping players "competitive".

PhxOldGamer68

So all the Tank and Destro Ult crews will be in the CP campaigns. Sounds good.

Sotha_Sil

Well they did say they wanted to nail the lag problem for Morrowind. They just went no CP full force because they did not have resources to do more. Honestly, can't say I am surprised. I just don't see the point of the champion system now.

Sandman929

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Well they did say they wanted to nail the lag problem for Morrowind. They just went no CP full force because they did not have resources to do more. Honestly, can't say I am surprised. I just don't see the point of the champion system now.

If only no-CP helped lag. Let's try no AOE caps.

Sandman929

PhxOldGamer68 wrote: »

So all the Tank and Destro Ult crews will be in the CP campaigns. Sounds good.

Stacked AoE hurts with or without CP.

Twohothardware

Sandman929 wrote: »

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Well they did say they wanted to nail the lag problem for Morrowind. They just went no CP full force because they did not have resources to do more. Honestly, can't say I am surprised. I just don't see the point of the champion system now.

If only no-CP helped lag. Let's try no AOE caps.

Let's try no damage reduction for running in a Zerg. When those huge zergs die faster theres fewer players alive causing lag.

Sandman929

Twohothardware wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Well they did say they wanted to nail the lag problem for Morrowind. They just went no CP full force because they did not have resources to do more. Honestly, can't say I am surprised. I just don't see the point of the champion system now.

If only no-CP helped lag. Let's try no AOE caps.

Let's try no damage reduction for running in a Zerg. When those huge zergs die faster theres fewer players alive causing lag.

Exactly. If you wanna get rid of some calculations, start there.

Ammene

This is the most stupid change you could have done.

Are you even aware of the que's to the Trueflame on EU server? All factions, at least 60+ almost all evenings and weekends. The lag is insane, it is unplayable.

Most people don't want to play non-cp so what you get is we all go back to 100+Q and PVP being unplayable during busy hours. Haderus is the only reason many people play PVP because the lag, while existing, is a moderate issue there and the Q's are not crazy.

Most PVP'rs won't change to non-cp 7 day and it will be empty like Spellbreaker while the CP campaign will be laggy, full and unplayable. You have somehow managed to ruin the pvp.

You do realise that most people won't play Battlegrounds too long? They get repetitive and they want to return back to PVP with their CP's which we all worked hard for. So it will be back to the the 150+ Q's that was the reason you installed original multiple campaigns. This change just proves that you have no idea how pvp works.

llSRRll

Stridig wrote: »

I can understand people being upset about changes that don't favor their point of view. On the other hand, it is only a game. I have read many posts about people who have worked so hard for their CP. Those people have clearly never had a hard days work in their life if they think playing a video game is comparable to work in any way. Makes me giggle.

Stupidest statement on here so far.

llSRRll

Emothic wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

I can understand people being upset about changes that don't favor their point of view. On the other hand, it is only a game. I have read many posts about people who have worked so hard for their CP. Those people have clearly never had a hard days work in their life if they think playing a video game is comparable to work in any way. Makes me giggle.

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Don't play an MMO, go play COD or something.

llSRRll

Enodoc wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

Emothic wrote: »

When you work long hours in a factory and get 1 hour of free time a day to play a game. It becomes very hard to progress Champion points in order to remain competitive in a game. So yes, it is hard work to earn CP when you don't have the free time to earn them.

Sp no cp PvP basically removes the need for "hard work" in oder to remain competitive and have fun. Isn't that a good thing?

Yes. It means the distinction between players is based on player skill, not on raw power. Which is certainly a good thing.

Again it's an MMO your suppose to be rewarded for playing more. If you want a game that only rewards button mashing fastest go play COD.

Stridig

Somebody's angry. Lol

llSRRll

Stridig wrote: »

Somebody's angry. Lol

No not mad at all, your assumption is just flat out stupid.

Stridig

llSRRll wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Somebody's angry. Lol

No not mad at all, your assumption is just flat out stupid.

Elaborate for us then if you are so smart. You say my statement is stupid with nothing to support your assessment. Then you tell @Emothic to go play a different game when they were issuing a rebuttal to my statement. So.... what exactly is your stance?

llSRRll

Stridig wrote: »

llSRRll wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Somebody's angry. Lol

No not mad at all, your assumption is just flat out stupid.

Elaborate for us then if you are so smart. You say my statement is stupid with nothing to support your assessment. Then you tell @Emothic to go play a different game when they were issuing a rebuttal to my statement. So.... what exactly is your stance?

Saying people who play mmo's have never worked a hard day in their lives is ignorant. Wanting to make an mmo where you don't get rewarded for playing is also stupid.

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Stridig

llSRRll wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

llSRRll wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

Somebody's angry. Lol

No not mad at all, your assumption is just flat out stupid.

Elaborate for us then if you are so smart. You say my statement is stupid with nothing to support your assessment. Then you tell @Emothic to go play a different game when they were issuing a rebuttal to my statement. So.... what exactly is your stance?

Saying people who play mmo's have never worked a hard day in their lives is ignorant. Wanting to make an mmo where you don't get rewarded for playing is also stupid.

Actually i did NOT say that people who play MMO's have never worked a hard day in their lives. If you read again it may become more clear. Do you have any solutions to the things in this game that you don't like? If so, do you have the means of implementing those changes? If you can answer no to either one of those questions, then perhaps it's you who should try another game.

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KrishakPanettier

I would really like to see a Champion Point (CP) 7-day campaign on PS4. I am sure I am not alone.