For over a year Magicka Nightblade has been the worst class in raids. Before Homestead, however, the difference in DPS between a perfectly played mNB (weakest in PvE) and a perfectly played mSorc (strongest in PvE) was around 5k in single target and at least 10k+ in AoE. With the sustain nerf to Funnel in Homestead and more power creep, this gap started to increase a lot. Now, on Live, the difference between perfectly played, BiS mNBs and mSorcs is at least 10k. When I have 45k single target with a perfect rotation, our best mSorc in raid has 57k. Add to this that a mNB's rotation is much more complex and harder to master and you have yourselves a dead class.
In Morrowind you're taking the only thing away that was giving mNBs an upper hand over other classes - better sustain due to Siphoning Attacks. And by "upper hand" I mean the potential to deal only 10k less dps. With that taken away in Morrowind the gap is now up to 20k in single target dps. I don't know why you're doing this.
Can't you just log on and check the leaderboards on Live (I'm from PC EU)? How much do you have to scroll down to spot the first Nightblade? Or how about you actually check the PTS, all the raids that have completed vHoF (HM)? How many Nightblades can you spot there? I'll help you, it rhymes with De Niro.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel What is wrong with you?
For over a year Magicka Nightblade has been the worst class in raids. Before Homestead, however, the difference in DPS between a perfectly played mNB (weakest in PvE) and a perfectly played mSorc (strongest in PvE) was around 5k in single target and at least 10k+ in AoE. With the sustain nerf to Funnel in Homestead and more power creep, this gap started to increase a lot. Now, on Live, the difference between perfectly played, BiS mNBs and mSorcs is at least 10k. When I have 45k single target with a perfect rotation, our best mSorc in raid has 57k. Add to this that a mNB's rotation is much more complex and harder to master and you have yourselves a dead class.
In Morrowind you're taking the only thing away that was giving mNBs an upper hand over other classes - better sustain due to Siphoning Attacks. And by "upper hand" I mean the potential to deal only 10k less dps. With that taken away in Morrowind the gap is now up to 20k in single target dps. I don't know why you're doing this.
Can't you just log on and check the leaderboards on Live (I'm from PC EU)? How much do you have to scroll down to spot the first Nightblade? Or how about you actually check the PTS, all the raids that have completed vHoF (HM)? How many Nightblades can you spot there? I'll help you, it rhymes with De Niro.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel What is wrong with you?
eserras7b16_ESO wrote: »I can only agree that Magblades need a stronger DoT or something wich affects PvE but doesn't really affect PvP. Then a big problem Magblades have are sorcerers. If they're tunned down a bit the gap will decrease, like, you're comparing yourself to a magsorc but you shouldn't, they destroy any other class in the game.
You're basically not so bad compared to other classes, just a bit of tune up of the skills and you'll be fine, then join the sorcerer nerf train I mean, not that I hate sorcerers it is just to have a healthy game, they need to tune down some of their abilities: the pet, the liquid lightning, just so they're affected in PvE dps but are still strong in PvP.
eserras7b16_ESO wrote: »they need to tune down some of their abilities: the pet, the liquid lightning
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Nightblade
- Shadow
- Twisting Path (Path of Darkness morph): Increased the damage of this morph by approximately 11%.
Magicka NB is complete garbage on PTS. It's like a mag Sorc with a global -30% damage debuff. They are not just unfit for competition. We're talking unfit for dailies. Why even take a 630 CP BiS Magicka Nightblade with perfect rotation when a 160 CP mag Sorc in random Magicka gear with amateur button smashing has higher dps?
I cancelled my preorder for now. What I've seen so far has killed my desire to test anything on PTS anymore. I'll just enjoy Live for as long as I can and just test my NB when Morrowind comes out. Just sucks that my subscription just got renewed for another 3 months. Wish I could take that back as well. It really hurts to further support ZOS financially at this point.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Nightblade
- Shadow
- Twisting Path (Path of Darkness morph): Increased the damage of this morph by approximately 11%.
@ZOS_GinaBruno In my parses, Twisting Path deals 4 - 5% of overall DPS. With 11% damage increase, that's a 0.44 - 0.55% overall damage increase. Fun fact: If you increase Twisting Path's damage by 300%, Nightblades will still be nowhere close to Sorcs. They would still deal at least 10k less single target DPS (on PTS). On overall DPS in a boss fight, we're talking 30k+ difference. That's how broken Nightblade is at the moment.
This thread is a bit older. But mNB is still one of the worst choices for end-game PvE, but not as bad as it was back then.
WildWilbur wrote: »
For over a year Magicka Nightblade has been the worst class in raids. Before Homestead, however, the difference in DPS between a perfectly played mNB (weakest in PvE) and a perfectly played mSorc (strongest in PvE) was around 5k in single target and at least 10k+ in AoE. With the sustain nerf to Funnel in Homestead and more power creep, this gap started to increase a lot. Now, on Live, the difference between perfectly played, BiS mNBs and mSorcs is at least 10k. When I have 45k single target with a perfect rotation, our best mSorc in raid has 57k. Add to this that a mNB's rotation is much more complex and harder to master and you have yourselves a dead class.
In Morrowind you're taking the only thing away that was giving mNBs an upper hand over other classes - better sustain due to Siphoning Attacks. And by "upper hand" I mean the potential to deal only 10k less dps. With that taken away in Morrowind the gap is now up to 20k in single target dps. I don't know why you're doing this.
Can't you just log on and check the leaderboards on Live (I'm from PC EU)? How much do you have to scroll down to spot the first Nightblade? Or how about you actually check the PTS, all the raids that have completed vHoF (HM)? How many Nightblades can you spot there? I'll help you, it rhymes with De Niro.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel What is wrong with you?
For over a year Magicka Nightblade has been the worst class in raids. Before Homestead, however, the difference in DPS between a perfectly played mNB (weakest in PvE) and a perfectly played mSorc (strongest in PvE) was around 5k in single target and at least 10k+ in AoE. With the sustain nerf to Funnel in Homestead and more power creep, this gap started to increase a lot. Now, on Live, the difference between perfectly played, BiS mNBs and mSorcs is at least 10k. When I have 45k single target with a perfect rotation, our best mSorc in raid has 57k. Add to this that a mNB's rotation is much more complex and harder to master and you have yourselves a dead class.
In Morrowind you're taking the only thing away that was giving mNBs an upper hand over other classes - better sustain due to Siphoning Attacks. And by "upper hand" I mean the potential to deal only 10k less dps. With that taken away in Morrowind the gap is now up to 20k in single target dps. I don't know why you're doing this.
Can't you just log on and check the leaderboards on Live (I'm from PC EU)? How much do you have to scroll down to spot the first Nightblade? Or how about you actually check the PTS, all the raids that have completed vHoF (HM)? How many Nightblades can you spot there? I'll help you, it rhymes with De Niro.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel What is wrong with you?
yeah. they need to restore siphioning attacks to what it was. magicka nightblades have resources, that's their thing. they don't have insane shield stacking potential, or ridiculous burst heals and they're not tanky. they have resources which is the nightblades base for diversifying builds. there are really no unique Magicka nightblade or stamblade builds. they're all basically the same. which is sad.
#restore siphioning attacks
For over a year Magicka Nightblade has been the worst class in raids. Before Homestead, however, the difference in DPS between a perfectly played mNB (weakest in PvE) and a perfectly played mSorc (strongest in PvE) was around 5k in single target and at least 10k+ in AoE. With the sustain nerf to Funnel in Homestead and more power creep, this gap started to increase a lot. Now, on Live, the difference between perfectly played, BiS mNBs and mSorcs is at least 10k. When I have 45k single target with a perfect rotation, our best mSorc in raid has 57k. Add to this that a mNB's rotation is much more complex and harder to master and you have yourselves a dead class.
In Morrowind you're taking the only thing away that was giving mNBs an upper hand over other classes - better sustain due to Siphoning Attacks. And by "upper hand" I mean the potential to deal only 10k less dps. With that taken away in Morrowind the gap is now up to 20k in single target dps. I don't know why you're doing this.
Can't you just log on and check the leaderboards on Live (I'm from PC EU)? How much do you have to scroll down to spot the first Nightblade? Or how about you actually check the PTS, all the raids that have completed vHoF (HM)? How many Nightblades can you spot there? I'll help you, it rhymes with De Niro.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel What is wrong with you?
yeah. they need to restore siphioning attacks to what it was. magicka nightblades have resources, that's their thing. they don't have insane shield stacking potential, or ridiculous burst heals and they're not tanky. they have resources which is the nightblades base for diversifying builds. there are really no unique Magicka nightblade or stamblade builds. they're all basically the same. which is sad.
#restore siphioning attacks
Well tbh mag nb in PvE is far from beeing the weakest people just have to stop whining and l2p it.