PLEASE Fix Vicecannon

Amorpho

I would really love to take this set into Morrowind and I have some really cool combos in mind with the new Morrowind sets, but the fact that it takes me out of cloak every time it procs on DKs with reactive armor is really frustrating (and it's been an ongoing issue that's not been fixed in such a long time!). The next best thing would be the Sheer Venom set, but it does not offer the heals that Vicecannon does. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can we please make sure this set gets fixed before Morrowind launches? Please don't make me wait another 6monhts!

NightbladeMechanics

That might be part of the ability's design. It takes you out of cloak if the dk is walking on your caltrops too. Do other dots and aoes work the same way?

Avran_Sylt

@NightbladeMechanics
Yeah, While in stealth or cloak, if you deal any sort of damage, be it a lingering DoT, caltrops, rearming trap (even if you're a keep away). it breaks you out of stealth/invisibility. I would love to see it so that only dealing direct damage (which is poorly defined as it is) breaks you out of cloak/stealth.

NightbladeMechanics

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@NightbladeMechanics
Yeah, While in stealth or cloak, if you deal any sort of damage, be it a lingering DoT, caltrops, rearming trap (even if you're a keep away). it breaks you out of stealth/invisibility. I would love to see it so that only dealing direct damage (which is poorly defined as it is) breaks you out of cloak/stealth.

Hey thanks for the answer. That's interesting. I could get behind it being changed to direct damage, but that doesn't sound like it's high on zos' radar, nor should it be imo.

Sounds like this isn't an issue with vicecanon in particular.

Amorpho

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@NightbladeMechanics
Yeah, While in stealth or cloak, if you deal any sort of damage, be it a lingering DoT, caltrops, rearming trap (even if you're a keep away). it breaks you out of stealth/invisibility. I would love to see it so that only dealing direct damage (which is poorly defined as it is) breaks you out of cloak/stealth.

Hey thanks for the answer. That's interesting. I could get behind it being changed to direct damage, but that doesn't sound like it's high on zos' radar, nor should it be imo.

Sounds like this isn't an issue with vicecanon in particular.

It actually is an issue that has been flagged a long time ago. I believe it has been acknowledged but it has not been fixed yet. Dots should not break you out of stealth. In fact, I can place on players 3 different types of dots with my build, but it is only the Vicecannon dot that takes me out of stealth (but only when it procs on DKs with reactive armor on). It is AoE damage that is supposed to reveal you, not DoTs.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom could you please enlighten us and let us know if it is going to get fixed?

QuebraRegra

Amorpho wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@NightbladeMechanics
Yeah, While in stealth or cloak, if you deal any sort of damage, be it a lingering DoT, caltrops, rearming trap (even if you're a keep away). it breaks you out of stealth/invisibility. I would love to see it so that only dealing direct damage (which is poorly defined as it is) breaks you out of cloak/stealth.

Hey thanks for the answer. That's interesting. I could get behind it being changed to direct damage, but that doesn't sound like it's high on zos' radar, nor should it be imo.

Sounds like this isn't an issue with vicecanon in particular.

It actually is an issue that has been flagged a long time ago. I believe it has been acknowledged but it has not been fixed yet. Dots should not break you out of stealth. In fact, I can place on players 3 different types of dots with my build, but it is only the Vicecannon dot that takes me out of stealth (but only when it procs on DKs with reactive armor on). It is AoE damage that is supposed to reveal you, not DoTs.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom could you please enlighten us and let us know if it is going to get fixed?

nobody from ZOS ever chimed in to clarify? Can we get a referee call here? The previous poster was correct when he said that ZOS had previously stated that DOTs should not take you out of cloak.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Amorpho

QuebraRegra wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

@NightbladeMechanics
Yeah, While in stealth or cloak, if you deal any sort of damage, be it a lingering DoT, caltrops, rearming trap (even if you're a keep away). it breaks you out of stealth/invisibility. I would love to see it so that only dealing direct damage (which is poorly defined as it is) breaks you out of cloak/stealth.

Hey thanks for the answer. That's interesting. I could get behind it being changed to direct damage, but that doesn't sound like it's high on zos' radar, nor should it be imo.

Sounds like this isn't an issue with vicecanon in particular.

It actually is an issue that has been flagged a long time ago. I believe it has been acknowledged but it has not been fixed yet. Dots should not break you out of stealth. In fact, I can place on players 3 different types of dots with my build, but it is only the Vicecannon dot that takes me out of stealth (but only when it procs on DKs with reactive armor on). It is AoE damage that is supposed to reveal you, not DoTs.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom could you please enlighten us and let us know if it is going to get fixed?

nobody from ZOS ever chimed in to clarify? Can we get a referee call here? The previous poster was correct when he said that ZOS had previously stated that DOTs should not take you out of cloak.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Same applies to Sheer Venom
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/352630/spiked-armor-sheer-venom-and-vicecannon#latest

gkitti7

I used to run vicecanon and it always kept me out of stealth when it proc'd

GreenSoup2HoT

I just want to mention since its relivent. Dks reactive armor breaks your cloak when you try to surprise attack them from stealth preventing the stun.

Basically the reflected damage is occuring first which makes no sense.

olsborg

Wtb a fix

QuebraRegra

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I just want to mention since its relivent. Dks reactive armor breaks your cloak when you try to surprise attack them from stealth preventing the stun.

Basically the reflected damage is occuring first which makes no sense.

no, yer hallucinating! After all they've said they fixed CLOAK every patch for the last 10 patches! It couldn't possibly still be bork'd could it?

PS4_ZeColmeia

QuebraRegra wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I just want to mention since its relivent. Dks reactive armor breaks your cloak when you try to surprise attack them from stealth preventing the stun.

Basically the reflected damage is occuring first which makes no sense.

no, yer hallucinating! After all they've said they fixed CLOAK every patch for the last 10 patches! It couldn't possibly still be bork'd could it?

^^^^ this ^^^^