Are You Happy With The Morrowind PTS Notes?

Father_X_Zombie

Rip Eso

Father_X_Zombie

No

Why ZOS

jcasini222ub17_ESO

No

I'll keep this simple. No answer to the rng madness across the game (now with skills!).

Also can someone tell me if when the say "caltrops stack" do they also mean the snare with it? If so, yuck.

Azicah

No

You already know what the end result would be.

redspecter23

No

A large list of nerfs after 2 previous patches containing large lists of nerfs as well as no sign of any RNG drop gear grind relief and no trait rebalance. Everything I didn't ask for with none of the things that would have made me happy. This will be a tough update to swallow.

jl10899

No

I don't understand why regen and ability cost are getting hit so hard.

LorDrek

No

This patch is unbalance. Thx zos.

grim_tactics

Why it is so hard for them to actually care about their game is beyond me.

They do not play their own game at a high level obviously.

Remember an old video from a disgruntled streamer who summed it perfectly.

"Another lazy patch from ZOS. Every time - nerf it by 50% or double it. That's it. Nerf it by half or double it. No testing is done obviously by anyone with a clue how the game works."

Ugh, can anyone remember the last patch that actually helped this game? I would say homestead but it didn't do enough to fix problems people have been pointing out for some time.

Cadbury

Other

LiquidPony

No

No buff for stam DPS and no nerfs for magsorcs? Then it sucks.

Enjoy the new 8 x Magsorc DPS Trials meta.

STEVIL

Yes

Seems like a good start to focus on their goals. Likely things will change before live, as usual.

Killset

No

The fact that ZOS can even think these patch notes are close to balanced makes me seriously doubt the future of this game. The only other explanation I can think of is ZOS has no intention of letting these go live. That way when they throttle back some of the nerfs, they look like a company that listens and cares, while everyone breathes a sigh of relief while happily eating their **** sandwich.

Another way of looking at it is if I threaten to nerf you 100% but concede in only nerfing you 75%. You will just be happy you didn't get the 100% nerf even though 75% was too much to begin with.

Turelus

Yes

Fine for me, I'll adapt and keep playing.

Not the first time I've been in an MMO with a major shake up patch, but even the first time for ESO.

We have an ESO is dead RIP ESO cry every patch now, people are still playing.

Subversus

Yes

God forbid people have to spec a little for regen now as well instead of going balls deep damage. This patch will surely weed out those crutching on CP thinking they're any good.

redspecter23

No

Turelus wrote: »

Fine for me, I'll adapt and keep playing.

Not the first time I've been in an MMO with a major shake up patch, but even the first time for ESO.

We have an ESO is dead RIP ESO cry every patch now, people are still playing.

If the next set of patch notes read "everyone loses 500 cp, all AP, your house burned down and we killed a puppy" some people would still play. Some people still playing does not mean that your patch is well received or popular. The big question is, why release a patch that has a huge list of negative feeling changes when you know you'll lose players over it. Some players will always be happy, but you don't have to go out of your way to upset players with excessive nerfs.

STEVIL

Yes

redspecter23 wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Fine for me, I'll adapt and keep playing.

Not the first time I've been in an MMO with a major shake up patch, but even the first time for ESO.

We have an ESO is dead RIP ESO cry every patch now, people are still playing.

If the next set of patch notes read "everyone loses 500 cp, all AP, your house burned down and we killed a puppy" some people would still play. Some people still playing does not mean that your patch is well received or popular. The big question is, why release a patch that has a huge list of negative feeling changes when you know you'll lose players over it. Some players will always be happy, but you don't have to go out of your way to upset players with excessive nerfs.

One person's excessive needs is another person's finally fixing power probs.

This patch seems to be another step in their progressive efforts to bring ceiling to floor diff closer.

For some that's an abomination, for others, a plan.

trinimacNcheese

Yes

Because my only character is a magicka sorcerer and there were rumors that the Lich set would be nerfed this patch, but instead they left it alone

Turelus

Yes

redspecter23 wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Fine for me, I'll adapt and keep playing.

Not the first time I've been in an MMO with a major shake up patch, but even the first time for ESO.

We have an ESO is dead RIP ESO cry every patch now, people are still playing.

If the next set of patch notes read "everyone loses 500 cp, all AP, your house burned down and we killed a puppy" some people would still play. Some people still playing does not mean that your patch is well received or popular. The big question is, why release a patch that has a huge list of negative feeling changes when you know you'll lose players over it. Some players will always be happy, but you don't have to go out of your way to upset players with excessive nerfs.

Because a lot of people agree with ZOS. Yes it's a big change and need to the current meta, but did we really want a full sustain max damage meta for the rest of the games life?

I'll personally be glad to actually do boss mechanics again rather than burn it before the phase changes.

Cadbury

Other

At least we're finally getting the extra storage we've been asking for. That's a positive.

xSkullfox

No

ZOS: Make CP useless again.

Leon119

Yes

Yes. And also i love the fact they added dev comments on the notes. Been nagging about that for a year xD

Doctordarkspawn

No

They did exactly what we'd predict they'd do. They built the game around DPS, and sustain, and now their nerfing their ability to actually do it.

I'm pretty much gone, i'm just installing the PTS in order to confirm whether or not the build will be unviable, and if it isn't, this game gets *** all from me.

You built the game around the infinite sustain your removing, guys. You never did learn how to lisen to us.

Aliniel

Yes

Immortal builds should simply die with these changes. Which has been long overdue. Resource management should lead to more careful builds - not just mindlessly stacking Spell and Weapon damage.

Jules

No

RIP STAM DK
RIP SMALL SCALE
RIP LIFE

Kram8ion

No

I was already basically at the bottom of the barrel already and just when I was thinking about actually getting into pve


Nope

lonewolf26

No

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Why ZOS

I think it's because ZOS hates money.

ColoredScreams

No

They didn't address Damage shields + Pirate Skeleton (a 1% decrease in proc chance? what a joke), the solid fact that dark deal is and will ignore Zenimax's recovery nerfs, did not compensate stamplars like they did magicka templars for the removal of their major mending (they buffed their "mending" passive which only benefits magickplars), did not mention a fix for the streak bug, gutted several classes while allowing sorceress (both stamina and magicka) to face only the common global nerfs that everyone else recieves and not class specific nerfs like the rest of the classes received. I reiterate, they nerfed the population with global sustain changes that I can agree with, but they also implemented Templar, Dragon Knight, and Nightblades class specific nerfs, but left Sorcerers untouched.

NolaArch

No

Nah.

arkansas_ESO

No

It's going to be really tedious trying to take a keep when people can stack 10+ caltrops on the breach.

Bashev

Yes

The latest changes are in the right directions but we still need some more adjustments.

Midori_Oku

Other

It's basically a yes and no for me. I do think sustain is something that should be nerfed, but I feel like they may be taking it a bit too far. Not only are there nerfs to sustain, but even damage with mighty and elemental expert only going to 15% instead of 25%. This is just going to increase the gap between players who can and who can't complete certain content. For example, my main group has no problem doing any content in the game, but I also have another group I play with from time to time that has a hard time beating some of the easier vet dungeons, and can barely beat some of the harder ones even if I'm there.

I really do like some of the changes though. The caltrops changes seems like it will be good.