Un-nerf raidiant destruction.

  • Destyran
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    Destyran wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters

    I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha

    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.

    30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
    So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??

    They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.

    Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.

    And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.

    So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??
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    ButtersEP wrote: »
    No

    Great way to discuss a opinion!!! Get this mam a social skills award
    Edited by Destyran on April 12, 2017 6:41AM
  • leepalmer95
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters

    I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha

    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.

    30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
    So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??

    They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.

    Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.

    And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.

    So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??

    Im saying breath of life is OP.

    Vigor doesn't crit for 12k on a 40k hp permablock heal bot.

    Its not even zergs, if i'm solo and i run into a group of 4, if there is a magplar heavy armor user then the 1vx is over, because its impossible to burst them and its impossible to burst any of the group because the templar will spam OP BOL. So i can't kill any group without killing the templar and i can't kill the templar because he's a tank and BoL is stupid heals.

    Hence 1vX is pretty much dead.

    Magplar is now a class for bad players, they either spam BoL or spam beam, there is very few people that actually play the class well and properly anymore.

    But hey, continue playing it and killing people, i'm sure you feel strong and relevant.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • Destyran
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters

    I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha

    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.

    30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
    So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??

    They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.

    Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.

    And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.

    So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??

    Im saying breath of life is OP.

    Vigor doesn't crit for 12k on a 40k hp permablock heal bot.

    Its not even zergs, if i'm solo and i run into a group of 4, if there is a magplar heavy armor user then the 1vx is over, because its impossible to burst them and its impossible to burst any of the group because the templar will spam OP BOL. So i can't kill any group without killing the templar and i can't kill the templar because he's a tank and BoL is stupid heals.

    Hence 1vX is pretty much dead.

    Magplar is now a class for bad players, they either spam BoL or spam beam, there is very few people that actually play the class well and properly anymore.

    But hey, continue playing it and killing people, i'm sure you feel strong and relevant.

    I 1vx just fine. Kill people then the magplar. Maybe you are out of your league on skill for some templars you meet
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    Ok guy this thread is about raidiant destruction and spear shards stunning. Dont derail it.
  • leepalmer95
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters

    I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha

    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.

    30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
    So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??

    They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.

    Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.

    And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.

    So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??

    Im saying breath of life is OP.

    Vigor doesn't crit for 12k on a 40k hp permablock heal bot.

    Its not even zergs, if i'm solo and i run into a group of 4, if there is a magplar heavy armor user then the 1vx is over, because its impossible to burst them and its impossible to burst any of the group because the templar will spam OP BOL. So i can't kill any group without killing the templar and i can't kill the templar because he's a tank and BoL is stupid heals.

    Hence 1vX is pretty much dead.

    Magplar is now a class for bad players, they either spam BoL or spam beam, there is very few people that actually play the class well and properly anymore.

    But hey, continue playing it and killing people, i'm sure you feel strong and relevant.

    I 1vx just fine. Kill people then the magplar. Maybe you are out of your league on skill for some templars you meet

    Yeah yeah sure, whatever reply with an insult because you have nothing else, basically sums up discussions on this forum. You kill people while leaving the healer for last. Shows how much i should actually take you seriously. Thnaks for letting me know how much of a scrub you are.

    But yeah Radiant needed its nerf, i still think it needs a range nerf to be in range of gap closers. So people have the option to gap close and interrupt all the time and not be able to not do anything when they are out of range sometimes.

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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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    Before we decide that BoL needs a nerf, first we need to recognize that much of the healbots' success come from the fact that nearly all of their BoL crit. Why is this? Take a look at the 10 CP passive in the apprentice tree, Vengeance. It says that, after blocking 3 spells within ten seconds, your next spell will crit. This passive has no cooldown. All it takes is one magplar spamming jabs or one sorc using force pulse to trigger this passive at every GCD for a crit heal BoL, or any other spell for that matter. This is a major part of what makes CP heal-tanks OP: if they are being attacked by magic, most/all of their heals crit. You're almost better off not attacking them, but in a big fight, that is impossible. CP needs a rework (I vote for removal, though).
    The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?
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    This is a joke right?
    Aussie lag is real!
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    I've been a Templar for a very long time. I'd much prefer blinding flashes over Radiant. If they were to un-nerf it I'd prefer to have flashes back.
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  • Destyran
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters

    I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha

    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.

    30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
    So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??

    They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.

    Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.

    And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.

    So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??

    Im saying breath of life is OP.

    Vigor doesn't crit for 12k on a 40k hp permablock heal bot.

    Its not even zergs, if i'm solo and i run into a group of 4, if there is a magplar heavy armor user then the 1vx is over, because its impossible to burst them and its impossible to burst any of the group because the templar will spam OP BOL. So i can't kill any group without killing the templar and i can't kill the templar because he's a tank and BoL is stupid heals.

    Hence 1vX is pretty much dead.

    Magplar is now a class for bad players, they either spam BoL or spam beam, there is very few people that actually play the class well and properly anymore.

    But hey, continue playing it and killing people, i'm sure you feel strong and relevant.

    I 1vx just fine. Kill people then the magplar. Maybe you are out of your league on skill for some templars you meet

    Yeah yeah sure, whatever reply with an insult because you have nothing else, basically sums up discussions on this forum. You kill people while leaving the healer for last. Shows how much i should actually take you seriously. Thnaks for letting me know how much of a scrub you are.

    But yeah Radiant needed its nerf, i still think it needs a range nerf to be in range of gap closers. So people have the option to gap close and interrupt all the time and not be able to not do anything when they are out of range sometimes.

    Nah if raidints nerfed i want luminous to be a unblockable aoe cc like fear and toppling to work like teleport strike
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    I 1v X just fine killing healer last.

    I think radiant only needed a range nerf. if anything it need
    WhiteMage wrote: »
    Before we decide that BoL needs a nerf, first we need to recognize that much of the healbots' success come from the fact that nearly all of their BoL crit. Why is this? Take a look at the 10 CP passive in the apprentice tree, Vengeance. It says that, after blocking 3 spells within ten seconds, your next spell will crit. This passive has no cooldown. All it takes is one magplar spamming jabs or one sorc using force pulse to trigger this passive at every GCD for a crit heal BoL, or any other spell for that matter. This is a major part of what makes CP heal-tanks OP: if they are being attacked by magic, most/all of their heals crit. You're almost better off not attacking them, but in a big fight, that is impossible. CP needs a rework (I vote for removal, though).

    If they neef breath the templars will have nothing and i will delete the game and my toon as they might aswell delete the class all these berfs come from pvp whiners who have no skill raidiant is terrible on good players. No shards now for stun. Lets talk about nerfing other classes first.
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    Destyran wrote: »
    No.


    50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive

    Stop trying to be the god mode class

    50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose

    You do realize how dumb you sound right? The tooltip literally had 50% execute range. Unless you're trying to be sarcastic saying it was weak, which is ridiculous because it was and STILL is the best execute ingame
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.

    Probably because its a stupid easy mode class for bad players zerging.

    I'll like it when some aspects of it are actually balanced.

    Kind of like sorcs. :p
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.

    Probably because its a stupid easy mode class for bad players zerging.

    I'll like it when some aspects of it are actually balanced.

    Kind of like sorcs. :p

    Sorc shields are only strong in a 1v1.

    I do agree that there are some bad players saved by shields, they don't even play the sorc properly but just won't die because they are literally spamming hardened ward and you can't finish them. Even if you get them to like 10% if they get a shield off your chance is over.
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    nvm ... pointless to argue against haters.
    Edited by Joy_Division on April 12, 2017 1:24PM
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
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    Destyran wrote: »
    No.


    50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive

    Stop trying to be the god mode class

    50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose

    You do realize how dumb you sound right? The tooltip literally had 50% execute range. Unless you're trying to be sarcastic saying it was weak, which is ridiculous because it was and STILL is the best execute ingame

    It was bugged and made no difference from 100% till about 30% lol. You have no idea about mechanics just agree and call nerfs before understanding.
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    So many hurt feelings in this thread.
    Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...
  • Lucasalex92
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    Give us back Jesus Beam !!!! And Shard !
    I will always need for more classes in the game... Monk Kung Fu Khajit - with martial art staff and straw hat, Alchemist - throwing bombs and potions , Bard as support rather then healer, and Arificer and Arifact collector of alyed and dwemer ruins
  • Nelson_Rebel
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    No.


    50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive

    Stop trying to be the god mode class

    50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose

    You do realize how dumb you sound right? The tooltip literally had 50% execute range. Unless you're trying to be sarcastic saying it was weak, which is ridiculous because it was and STILL is the best execute ingame

    It was bugged and made no difference from 100% till about 30% lol. You have no idea about mechanics just agree and call nerfs before understanding.

    1st off the execute I already said starts at 50%, not 100%. Don't know where in your ass you pulled that from.

    2nd the execute was powerful from start to finish with ticks of 4k+ starting from 50% with channels I've seen tick for 8-12k individual ticks on some vids. That's incredibly stupid


    But radiant NOW is fine
    Edited by Nelson_Rebel on April 12, 2017 6:15PM
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    Enough with the 50% thing. This is the most misleading tooltip in the game. The scaling is awful until about 35% and it only truly becomes a great execute around 20%.

    Other Myths Busted

    - Radiant has an incorrect death recap. You did not die to a 25k beam. You had one hit point left and would have died to an unarmed punch. It just shows all of the damage you would have gotten if you somehow survived with only 1 hit point left. Which you wouldn't, because you can't.
    - Radiant is no longer powerful due to the 21% nerf. So now you're getting hit for 20k instead of 25k. Not that it matters because you're dead anyway. See previous point.
    - Radiant spammers only push one button. Nope. You have to empower it first. That's 2 buttons. Even 3 if you include a CC.
    - Radiant would be fixed if you lowered the distance. Nope. Only if you also lowered heavy armor. I can beam you from 5 feet just as easily as I can from 30 yards. If I was in light armor that would not be a viable option.
    - Radiant is unfair to roll dodgers. Nope. Radiant is the only thing keeping roll dodgers in line. It's the exact rock to their scissors.
    - Radiant was nerfed due to PVP. Nope. It was nerfed because people were hitting 60 to 80k damage ticks on bosses in PVE.
    - Sam Bradford is a good quarterback. Nope. He stinks.

    Everything here I agree with. Besides 1 thing

    the 50% was not the reason it got nerfed correct,
    but it was part of the problem. And yes it did
    hit hard. At 50% With full Impen gold Julianos gear5/1/1 light/medium/heavy. I was getting 4k ticks on me. That's a continuous execution tick from 40yards out

    It was excessive. And even with the nerfs is still the best pvp and pve execute. That alone is proof to uphold the nerf


    It's the light armor you're using. If you were in heavy the damage would have been considerably less. At this point the only time I'm worried about the beam is when I screw up.

    It was only a 5 light setup, with ALL of it golded out with full impen, including my heavy and medium shoulder of valkyn skoria. But even so no other execute even from up front hit me with as much as the old radiant destruction did. So it clearly wasn't my 5 light setup with 1 heavy and 1 medium. At least now I'm not being hit at 50% execute and have time to react instead of just dropping dead from halfway across a keep.

    There's no reason that Heavy armor should be the only viable setup counter to Radiant doing 50% execute. It should just be an execute from low health as it now is, so the point is moot I suppose.

    But yes I only worry about RD when I'm knocked down or I mess up at low health. So it's actually working like an execute should now
    Yup it is the 5 light. You are basically gimping yourself and blaming RD for it. Impen is only effective against crits.

    Impen is overrated in general. Your opponent can cast one shield and make it useless. And even when there is no shield you're using a trait that cuts down on half the bonus damage only. Not the main damage, but the bonus damage. Oh ... and people only crit about half the time, so when you're not getting crit it's completely useless.

    This is lol worthy. I gave you an insightful because it really does show how clueless you are and you will likely never figure out why...
    Enough with the 50% thing. This is the most misleading tooltip in the game. The scaling is awful until about 35% and it only truly becomes a great execute around 20%.

    Other Myths Busted

    - Radiant has an incorrect death recap. You did not die to a 25k beam. You had one hit point left and would have died to an unarmed punch. It just shows all of the damage you would have gotten if you somehow survived with only 1 hit point left. Which you wouldn't, because you can't.
    - Radiant is no longer powerful due to the 21% nerf. So now you're getting hit for 20k instead of 25k. Not that it matters because you're dead anyway. See previous point.
    - Radiant spammers only push one button. Nope. You have to empower it first. That's 2 buttons. Even 3 if you include a CC.
    - Radiant would be fixed if you lowered the distance. Nope. Only if you also lowered heavy armor. I can beam you from 5 feet just as easily as I can from 30 yards. If I was in light armor that would not be a viable option.
    - Radiant is unfair to roll dodgers. Nope. Radiant is the only thing keeping roll dodgers in line. It's the exact rock to their scissors.
    - Radiant was nerfed due to PVP. Nope. It was nerfed because people were hitting 60 to 80k damage ticks on bosses in PVE.
    - Sam Bradford is a good quarterback. Nope. He stinks.

    Everything here I agree with. Besides 1 thing

    the 50% was not the reason it got nerfed correct,
    but it was part of the problem. And yes it did
    hit hard. At 50% With full Impen gold Julianos gear5/1/1 light/medium/heavy. I was getting 4k ticks on me. That's a continuous execution tick from 40yards out

    It was excessive. And even with the nerfs is still the best pvp and pve execute. That alone is proof to uphold the nerf


    It's the light armor you're using. If you were in heavy the damage would have been considerably less. At this point the only time I'm worried about the beam is when I screw up.

    It was only a 5 light setup, with ALL of it golded out with full impen, including my heavy and medium shoulder of valkyn skoria. But even so no other execute even from up front hit me with as much as the old radiant destruction did. So it clearly wasn't my 5 light setup with 1 heavy and 1 medium. At least now I'm not being hit at 50% execute and have time to react instead of just dropping dead from halfway across a keep.

    There's no reason that Heavy armor should be the only viable setup counter to Radiant doing 50% execute. It should just be an execute from low health as it now is, so the point is moot I suppose.

    But yes I only worry about RD when I'm knocked down or I mess up at low health. So it's actually working like an execute should now
    Yup it is the 5 light. You are basically gimping yourself and blaming RD for it. Impen is only effective against crits.

    Impen is overrated in general. Your opponent can cast one shield and make it useless. And even when there is no shield you're using a trait that cuts down on half the bonus damage only. Not the main damage, but the bonus damage. Oh ... and people only crit about half the time, so when you're not getting crit it's completely useless.

    Impen is a must in pvp, thats a simple fact.

    You don't die to non crit bursts, you die to crit bursts because crits hits so much harder,

    You're both wrong. I've gone hours without dying in both Zerg on Zerg fights and solo. It's completely unnecessary if you know what you're doing.

    But yeah, whatever. Enjoy your crutches.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.

    Oh that's right. You're the guy who hates Magplars because we aren't forced to play exactly how you play. How did I forget?
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    Destyran wrote: »
    BRogueNZ wrote: »
    Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters

    I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha

    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.

    30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
    So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??

    They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.

    Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.

    And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.

    Heals a Zerg? You're kidding right? If you got a 10K BoL tooltip then it's only 5k and 2.5k per BoL to 2 random people, one of which isn't even guaranteed to be yourself.

    Face it. You hate Magplars and anyone not forced into your miopic play style. Enjoy your one on ones in the IC Arena steps. The actual PVPers will be upstairs helping crown new Emperors.
  • maxjapank
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.

    Oh that's right. You're the guy who hates Magplars because we aren't forced to play exactly how you play. How did I forget?

    Did you mistakenly quote the wrong person?
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    maxjapank wrote: »
    maxjapank wrote: »
    Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.

    Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.

    Oh that's right. You're the guy who hates Magplars because we aren't forced to play exactly how you play. How did I forget?

    Did you mistakenly quote the wrong person?

    I was talking to the guy you were talking to. So yes. I'm in agreement with you. Sorry.
  • Dragonking06
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    Y tho?

    (It's still the most powerful execute in the game).
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  • Minno
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    Draxys wrote: »
    If you want to double the damage on bosses or something, buff away. But seriously, the design of that skill is unmistakably ridiculous. A long-ranged, channeled, undodgeable execute that scales starting at 50% should never cross the mind of someone who is attempting to have a balanced product. Other things about the skill should be nerfed before it gets a damage buff, if it ever happens.

    That 50% benchmark was created due to a very specific analysis of a pve boss fight recording armor, max mag value, penetration, etc. And the author of that thread post made it so that other pve players could clac their own benchmark for execute.

    In PvP this means, the higher resistances + decreased chance for a player to gain a full mag pool resulted in a very less favorable percentage. At 39k mag/2k SD the skill currently gets to around 15k (7500 over 2.8 sec in cyro before mitigation.). That means 2678.6 dmg each tick. After 25k spell armor +sharp/light armor, it's around 2k per tick. It's now a 5600 dmg over 2.8 sec as the initial hit without calculating the extra dmg from the full mag pool.

    I'd agree with you if this was the only ranged execute but sadly stamina has access to poison injection and us more prevalent than RD in Homestead.



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  • Destyran
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    Destyran wrote: »
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    No.


    50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive

    Stop trying to be the god mode class

    50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose

    You do realize how dumb you sound right? The tooltip literally had 50% execute range. Unless you're trying to be sarcastic saying it was weak, which is ridiculous because it was and STILL is the best execute ingame

    It was bugged and made no difference from 100% till about 30% lol. You have no idea about mechanics just agree and call nerfs before understanding.

    1st off the execute I already said starts at 50%, not 100%. Don't know where in your ass you pulled that from.

    2nd the execute was powerful from start to finish with ticks of 4k+ starting from 50% with channels I've seen tick for 8-12k individual ticks on some vids. That's incredibly stupid


    But radiant NOW is fine

    Yeah 8-12 k ticks when they have 1 health left. Go make a templar and raidiant a snake in pve with 1 health omg look it still ticks for big damage? Oh and is that the damage that showed up on those death recaps of unskilled 1vxers and cry babies every where?
  • waterfairy
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    New nerfs??? Where can I see this so I can get annoyed before it hits console
  • alexkdd99
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    No.


    50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive

    Stop trying to be the god mode class

    Ummmm except it is still like that, lol.
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    Any reason why any execute should start at 50% health?
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