leepalmer95 wrote: »So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??leepalmer95 wrote: »Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters
I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha
Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.
30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.
Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.
And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.
leepalmer95 wrote: »So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??leepalmer95 wrote: »Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters
I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha
Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.
30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.
Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.
And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.
So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??
leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??leepalmer95 wrote: »Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters
I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha
Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.
30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.
Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.
And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.
So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??
Im saying breath of life is OP.
Vigor doesn't crit for 12k on a 40k hp permablock heal bot.
Its not even zergs, if i'm solo and i run into a group of 4, if there is a magplar heavy armor user then the 1vx is over, because its impossible to burst them and its impossible to burst any of the group because the templar will spam OP BOL. So i can't kill any group without killing the templar and i can't kill the templar because he's a tank and BoL is stupid heals.
Hence 1vX is pretty much dead.
Magplar is now a class for bad players, they either spam BoL or spam beam, there is very few people that actually play the class well and properly anymore.
But hey, continue playing it and killing people, i'm sure you feel strong and relevant.
leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??leepalmer95 wrote: »Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters
I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha
Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.
30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.
Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.
And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.
So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??
Im saying breath of life is OP.
Vigor doesn't crit for 12k on a 40k hp permablock heal bot.
Its not even zergs, if i'm solo and i run into a group of 4, if there is a magplar heavy armor user then the 1vx is over, because its impossible to burst them and its impossible to burst any of the group because the templar will spam OP BOL. So i can't kill any group without killing the templar and i can't kill the templar because he's a tank and BoL is stupid heals.
Hence 1vX is pretty much dead.
Magplar is now a class for bad players, they either spam BoL or spam beam, there is very few people that actually play the class well and properly anymore.
But hey, continue playing it and killing people, i'm sure you feel strong and relevant.
I 1vx just fine. Kill people then the magplar. Maybe you are out of your league on skill for some templars you meet
leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??leepalmer95 wrote: »Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters
I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha
Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.
30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.
Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.
And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.
So if you pop rally and vigor you can attack them while getting great heals. Breath just becomes a defensive so bad you cant press anything else. Are you saying templar is op? Because you tey to fight zergs??
Im saying breath of life is OP.
Vigor doesn't crit for 12k on a 40k hp permablock heal bot.
Its not even zergs, if i'm solo and i run into a group of 4, if there is a magplar heavy armor user then the 1vx is over, because its impossible to burst them and its impossible to burst any of the group because the templar will spam OP BOL. So i can't kill any group without killing the templar and i can't kill the templar because he's a tank and BoL is stupid heals.
Hence 1vX is pretty much dead.
Magplar is now a class for bad players, they either spam BoL or spam beam, there is very few people that actually play the class well and properly anymore.
But hey, continue playing it and killing people, i'm sure you feel strong and relevant.
I 1vx just fine. Kill people then the magplar. Maybe you are out of your league on skill for some templars you meet
Yeah yeah sure, whatever reply with an insult because you have nothing else, basically sums up discussions on this forum. You kill people while leaving the healer for last. Shows how much i should actually take you seriously. Thnaks for letting me know how much of a scrub you are.
But yeah Radiant needed its nerf, i still think it needs a range nerf to be in range of gap closers. So people have the option to gap close and interrupt all the time and not be able to not do anything when they are out of range sometimes.
Before we decide that BoL needs a nerf, first we need to recognize that much of the healbots' success come from the fact that nearly all of their BoL crit. Why is this? Take a look at the 10 CP passive in the apprentice tree, Vengeance. It says that, after blocking 3 spells within ten seconds, your next spell will crit. This passive has no cooldown. All it takes is one magplar spamming jabs or one sorc using force pulse to trigger this passive at every GCD for a crit heal BoL, or any other spell for that matter. This is a major part of what makes CP heal-tanks OP: if they are being attacked by magic, most/all of their heals crit. You're almost better off not attacking them, but in a big fight, that is impossible. CP needs a rework (I vote for removal, though).
Nelson_Rebel wrote: »No.
50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive
Stop trying to be the god mode class
50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose
leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.
Probably because its a stupid easy mode class for bad players zerging.
I'll like it when some aspects of it are actually balanced.
TequilaFire wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.
Probably because its a stupid easy mode class for bad players zerging.
I'll like it when some aspects of it are actually balanced.
Kind of like sorcs.
Nelson_Rebel wrote: »Nelson_Rebel wrote: »No.
50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive
Stop trying to be the god mode class
50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose
You do realize how dumb you sound right? The tooltip literally had 50% execute range. Unless you're trying to be sarcastic saying it was weak, which is ridiculous because it was and STILL is the best execute ingame
Nelson_Rebel wrote: »Nelson_Rebel wrote: »No.
50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive
Stop trying to be the god mode class
50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose
You do realize how dumb you sound right? The tooltip literally had 50% execute range. Unless you're trying to be sarcastic saying it was weak, which is ridiculous because it was and STILL is the best execute ingame
It was bugged and made no difference from 100% till about 30% lol. You have no idea about mechanics just agree and call nerfs before understanding.
THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Yup it is the 5 light. You are basically gimping yourself and blaming RD for it. Impen is only effective against crits.Nelson_Rebel wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Nelson_Rebel wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Enough with the 50% thing. This is the most misleading tooltip in the game. The scaling is awful until about 35% and it only truly becomes a great execute around 20%.
Other Myths Busted
- Radiant has an incorrect death recap. You did not die to a 25k beam. You had one hit point left and would have died to an unarmed punch. It just shows all of the damage you would have gotten if you somehow survived with only 1 hit point left. Which you wouldn't, because you can't.
- Radiant is no longer powerful due to the 21% nerf. So now you're getting hit for 20k instead of 25k. Not that it matters because you're dead anyway. See previous point.
- Radiant spammers only push one button. Nope. You have to empower it first. That's 2 buttons. Even 3 if you include a CC.
- Radiant would be fixed if you lowered the distance. Nope. Only if you also lowered heavy armor. I can beam you from 5 feet just as easily as I can from 30 yards. If I was in light armor that would not be a viable option.
- Radiant is unfair to roll dodgers. Nope. Radiant is the only thing keeping roll dodgers in line. It's the exact rock to their scissors.
- Radiant was nerfed due to PVP. Nope. It was nerfed because people were hitting 60 to 80k damage ticks on bosses in PVE.
- Sam Bradford is a good quarterback. Nope. He stinks.
Everything here I agree with. Besides 1 thing
the 50% was not the reason it got nerfed correct,
but it was part of the problem. And yes it did
hit hard. At 50% With full Impen gold Julianos gear5/1/1 light/medium/heavy. I was getting 4k ticks on me. That's a continuous execution tick from 40yards out
It was excessive. And even with the nerfs is still the best pvp and pve execute. That alone is proof to uphold the nerf
It's the light armor you're using. If you were in heavy the damage would have been considerably less. At this point the only time I'm worried about the beam is when I screw up.
It was only a 5 light setup, with ALL of it golded out with full impen, including my heavy and medium shoulder of valkyn skoria. But even so no other execute even from up front hit me with as much as the old radiant destruction did. So it clearly wasn't my 5 light setup with 1 heavy and 1 medium. At least now I'm not being hit at 50% execute and have time to react instead of just dropping dead from halfway across a keep.
There's no reason that Heavy armor should be the only viable setup counter to Radiant doing 50% execute. It should just be an execute from low health as it now is, so the point is moot I suppose.
But yes I only worry about RD when I'm knocked down or I mess up at low health. So it's actually working like an execute should now
Impen is overrated in general. Your opponent can cast one shield and make it useless. And even when there is no shield you're using a trait that cuts down on half the bonus damage only. Not the main damage, but the bonus damage. Oh ... and people only crit about half the time, so when you're not getting crit it's completely useless.
This is lol worthy. I gave you an insightful because it really does show how clueless you are and you will likely never figure out why...
leepalmer95 wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Yup it is the 5 light. You are basically gimping yourself and blaming RD for it. Impen is only effective against crits.Nelson_Rebel wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Nelson_Rebel wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Enough with the 50% thing. This is the most misleading tooltip in the game. The scaling is awful until about 35% and it only truly becomes a great execute around 20%.
Other Myths Busted
- Radiant has an incorrect death recap. You did not die to a 25k beam. You had one hit point left and would have died to an unarmed punch. It just shows all of the damage you would have gotten if you somehow survived with only 1 hit point left. Which you wouldn't, because you can't.
- Radiant is no longer powerful due to the 21% nerf. So now you're getting hit for 20k instead of 25k. Not that it matters because you're dead anyway. See previous point.
- Radiant spammers only push one button. Nope. You have to empower it first. That's 2 buttons. Even 3 if you include a CC.
- Radiant would be fixed if you lowered the distance. Nope. Only if you also lowered heavy armor. I can beam you from 5 feet just as easily as I can from 30 yards. If I was in light armor that would not be a viable option.
- Radiant is unfair to roll dodgers. Nope. Radiant is the only thing keeping roll dodgers in line. It's the exact rock to their scissors.
- Radiant was nerfed due to PVP. Nope. It was nerfed because people were hitting 60 to 80k damage ticks on bosses in PVE.
- Sam Bradford is a good quarterback. Nope. He stinks.
Everything here I agree with. Besides 1 thing
the 50% was not the reason it got nerfed correct,
but it was part of the problem. And yes it did
hit hard. At 50% With full Impen gold Julianos gear5/1/1 light/medium/heavy. I was getting 4k ticks on me. That's a continuous execution tick from 40yards out
It was excessive. And even with the nerfs is still the best pvp and pve execute. That alone is proof to uphold the nerf
It's the light armor you're using. If you were in heavy the damage would have been considerably less. At this point the only time I'm worried about the beam is when I screw up.
It was only a 5 light setup, with ALL of it golded out with full impen, including my heavy and medium shoulder of valkyn skoria. But even so no other execute even from up front hit me with as much as the old radiant destruction did. So it clearly wasn't my 5 light setup with 1 heavy and 1 medium. At least now I'm not being hit at 50% execute and have time to react instead of just dropping dead from halfway across a keep.
There's no reason that Heavy armor should be the only viable setup counter to Radiant doing 50% execute. It should just be an execute from low health as it now is, so the point is moot I suppose.
But yes I only worry about RD when I'm knocked down or I mess up at low health. So it's actually working like an execute should now
Impen is overrated in general. Your opponent can cast one shield and make it useless. And even when there is no shield you're using a trait that cuts down on half the bonus damage only. Not the main damage, but the bonus damage. Oh ... and people only crit about half the time, so when you're not getting crit it's completely useless.
Impen is a must in pvp, thats a simple fact.
You don't die to non crit bursts, you die to crit bursts because crits hits so much harder,
leepalmer95 wrote: »Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.
leepalmer95 wrote: »So stamina toons healing to full with a vigor and rally isnt op??leepalmer95 wrote: »Breath of life was made for this skill. Die at their feet after waving yourself goodbye for 25 odd meters
I don't care for it and so not bothered nerf or whatever. It's boring and a sign of desperation. Like the class in general. jabby jab, healy heal, health based shield bahahaha
Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
It's a class that lets the very bad player be a lot more effective than they have any right to be.
30k + hp blockplars that spam BoL and so effective its stupid. BoL needs a nerf, they are nerfing all healing with the cp change but BoL needs balancing itself, these 30-40k healers are still getting 12k+ crits with all that hp..
They don't when they have 30-40k hp like the magplar heal bots do.
Plus they don't heal a zerg while doing it either.
And they don't constantly get large heals and vigor is a heal over time and rally full heal can;t be spammed. breath of life can.
THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.
Oh that's right. You're the guy who hates Magplars because we aren't forced to play exactly how you play. How did I forget?
THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Yeah magplar is my most hated class right now.
Magplar has been your most hated class like forever. I can't even remember a post you've made in the last year or two that was positive about the class.
Oh that's right. You're the guy who hates Magplars because we aren't forced to play exactly how you play. How did I forget?
Did you mistakenly quote the wrong person?
If you want to double the damage on bosses or something, buff away. But seriously, the design of that skill is unmistakably ridiculous. A long-ranged, channeled, undodgeable execute that scales starting at 50% should never cross the mind of someone who is attempting to have a balanced product. Other things about the skill should be nerfed before it gets a damage buff, if it ever happens.
Nelson_Rebel wrote: »Nelson_Rebel wrote: »Nelson_Rebel wrote: »No.
50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive
Stop trying to be the god mode class
50% execute? Haha i see you never played the class. You must be one of them guys who see a fengrush video and try to 1vx 30ppl and blame jesus beam when u lose
You do realize how dumb you sound right? The tooltip literally had 50% execute range. Unless you're trying to be sarcastic saying it was weak, which is ridiculous because it was and STILL is the best execute ingame
It was bugged and made no difference from 100% till about 30% lol. You have no idea about mechanics just agree and call nerfs before understanding.
1st off the execute I already said starts at 50%, not 100%. Don't know where in your ass you pulled that from.
2nd the execute was powerful from start to finish with ticks of 4k+ starting from 50% with channels I've seen tick for 8-12k individual ticks on some vids. That's incredibly stupid
But radiant NOW is fine
Nelson_Rebel wrote: »No.
50% execute range from 40yards away was blatantly excessive
Stop trying to be the god mode class