Ball of Lighting negating Meteor

HoloYoitsu

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I would like to be able to reliably get out of overload. The main reason I cannot rely on it because getting stuck in it gets me killed so many damn times to stupid ****.

I would like to be able to exit overload w/ the wep swap button (taking me to my back bar), leaving the Ult detoggle option for just getting back to your front bar that has overload slotted.

Basically, the idea is just needing to press 1 button to get to either bar.

Minalan

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I would like to be able to reliably get out of overload. The main reason I cannot rely on it because getting stuck in it gets me killed so many damn times to stupid ****.

It's usually lag that gets you. You hit R, and of course nothing happens. Hit it again, and then you suddenly leave overload, then re-enter it again right away.

That's not the ability but the ESO servers.

Koolio

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I would like to be able to reliably get out of overload. The main reason I cannot rely on it because getting stuck in it gets me killed so many damn times to stupid ****.

Last time I test it you can put mutagen on your overload/third bar. When you cast it it will bring you to your resto bar without needed to manually switch it.

Derra

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

Ashamray

Bol is so bad that I can't complain on its absorbing ulties which is obviosly a bug because Meteor has only 1 counter - block (very strong counter).
Buff this morph somehow (and don't forget about Concealed weap, Agony, Eclipse and others)

Subversus

Ashamray wrote: »

Bol is so bad that I can't complain on its absorbing ulties which is obviosly a bug because Meteor has only 1 counter - block (very strong counter).
Buff this morph somehow (and don't forget about Concealed weap, Agony, Eclipse and others)

Meteor has no counter in a 1v1 against a magdk.

Or a magblade for that matter, sorta

NightbladeMechanics

Subversus wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Bol is so bad that I can't complain on its absorbing ulties which is obviosly a bug because Meteor has only 1 counter - block (very strong counter).
Buff this morph somehow (and don't forget about Concealed weap, Agony, Eclipse and others)

Meteor has no counter in a 1v1 against a magdk.

Or a magblade for that matter, sorta

Or a nightblade. Also doesn't rune prison break block? Just keep your health up when they have ult. Lol

Subversus

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Bol is so bad that I can't complain on its absorbing ulties which is obviosly a bug because Meteor has only 1 counter - block (very strong counter).
Buff this morph somehow (and don't forget about Concealed weap, Agony, Eclipse and others)

Meteor has no counter in a 1v1 against a magdk.

Or a magblade for that matter, sorta

Or a nightblade. Also doesn't rune prison break block? Just keep your health up when they have ult. Lol

Yeah, every class has a cc like that afaik, hence why it technically has no counter. I didn't say it's problematic, especially since all the 'dk is back boys' heroes are playing magdk builds that hit 4k crits with whip.

Minno

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

They should let you interrupt/bash the player trying to swap into overload putting them in an off balanced state. I know s+b/DK are a hard counter but it would be cool to be able to deal additional dmg/get a stun via off-balance.

Might be too OP, but with to explore the counter play. I'd hate for sorcs to lose that extra bar.

NightbladeMechanics

Subversus wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Bol is so bad that I can't complain on its absorbing ulties which is obviosly a bug because Meteor has only 1 counter - block (very strong counter).
Buff this morph somehow (and don't forget about Concealed weap, Agony, Eclipse and others)

Meteor has no counter in a 1v1 against a magdk.

Or a magblade for that matter, sorta

Or a nightblade. Also doesn't rune prison break block? Just keep your health up when they have ult. Lol

Yeah, every class has a cc like that afaik, hence why it technically has no counter. I didn't say it's problematic, especially since all the 'dk is back boys' heroes are playing magdk builds that hit 4k crits with whip.

Yup, Templars' Luminous Shards disorient will break block, so all classes can do a meteor combo. Gotta time them all just right, though, since you can break free and get block up quickly.

Also I loled.

Izaki

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I'm all with you on that.

Having access to 15 skill slots (and 3 ultimates too btw) is definitely unbalanced. Sorcs don't even have to think about bar space. I mean all the stuff that lasts for 20 sec or is situational just goes on there, leaving room for toggles on the other bars.
If we lose Overload, we lose the toggles. If we lose toggles, everyone will be happy.

I always thought it would be cool to have Overload be like the Call Lightning thing that Overchargers do in vAA and vSO.

Subversus

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Bol is so bad that I can't complain on its absorbing ulties which is obviosly a bug because Meteor has only 1 counter - block (very strong counter).
Buff this morph somehow (and don't forget about Concealed weap, Agony, Eclipse and others)

Meteor has no counter in a 1v1 against a magdk.

Or a magblade for that matter, sorta

Or a nightblade. Also doesn't rune prison break block? Just keep your health up when they have ult. Lol

Yeah, every class has a cc like that afaik, hence why it technically has no counter. I didn't say it's problematic, especially since all the 'dk is back boys' heroes are playing magdk builds that hit 4k crits with whip.

Yup, Templars' Luminous Shards disorient will break block, so all classes can do a meteor combo. Gotta time them all just right, though, since you can break free and get block up quickly.

Also I loled.

Good

Aedaryl

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

I disagree, it's not 15 skillslots access like a swich bar. You can't use overload if you are outnumbered, because people will kill you easely, or you need your shields and streak for make it work on outnumbered situations, wich it takes 3 skills.

Overload can only be use when you LoS for buffing yourself with long buff, like rune prison for no gank, and you take a lot of risk using it in even in 1v1 because you need 3 sec to use an overload bar skill and back to your true bar (4 if you need to swich).

I personally use overload as a pet sorc, because I have no space in bars, and I put mines and rune prison on it (so my overload bar is 2 pets, wall of element to break the overload bar, mines, prison rune and atronach as thrid ulitmate). I can only use my mines( or my third ultimate) if my ennemy is not on cc imunity, so I can use overload, use rune prison for stunning him and then mines for finallely back to my 2nd bar. It's not an easy way at all.

But I would be so happy if ZoS give a real good ultimate to sorc (by deleting overload), instant, not saying "hello, I'm comming" like 90% sorc damage skills and powerfull (RiP magicka DB).

Minalan

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

Oh Derra, you think everything on sorcs is broken and unfair. And you have a new nerf sorc post every day it seems.

In this case though I'd agree with you, IF sorcs weren't forced to double bar so many useful toggle skills (all of our pets, bound aegis).

Overload is a poor place to store skills in PVP, because as often as not you get stuck in it, and it's hard to move in and out of overload fluidly when you're under pressure/lag. For the most part, it's a good place to switch to when you need to travel (rapids). I'm happy with that.

It doesn't need a nerf, it's not like we can leap through the air and shoot fire out of our backsides...

Derra

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

Oh Derra, you think everything on sorcs is broken and unfair. And you have a new nerf sorc post every day it seems.

In this case though I'd agree with you, IF sorcs weren't forced to double bar so many useful toggle skills (all of our pets, bound aegis).

Overload is a poor place to store skills in PVP, because as often as not you get stuck in it, and it's hard to move in and out of overload fluidly when you're under pressure/lag. For the most part, it's a good place to switch to when you need to travel (rapids). I'm happy with that.

It doesn't need a nerf, it's not like we can leap through the air and shoot fire out of our backsides...

It´s funny that i only play sorc (since orsinium) though isn´t it?

Overload is super comfortable to store a mine fort for example. I use it all the time in all sorts for encounters i have. Though i agree that for reliable use in combat it only provides 4 skillslots - or 3 and an ultimate.

I´d just much rather have something compareable to leap, incap, sweep (well maybe not sweep) that´s actually a useful low to medium cost instant ultimate instead of a 3rd bar with clunky animations.

Minalan

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

Oh Derra, you think everything on sorcs is broken and unfair. And you have a new nerf sorc post every day it seems.

In this case though I'd agree with you, IF sorcs weren't forced to double bar so many useful toggle skills (all of our pets, bound aegis).

Overload is a poor place to store skills in PVP, because as often as not you get stuck in it, and it's hard to move in and out of overload fluidly when you're under pressure/lag. For the most part, it's a good place to switch to when you need to travel (rapids). I'm happy with that.

It doesn't need a nerf, it's not like we can leap through the air and shoot fire out of our backsides...

It´s funny that i only play sorc (since orsinium) though isn´t it?

Overload is super comfortable to store a mine fort for example. I use it all the time in all sorts for encounters i have. Though i agree that for reliable use in combat it only provides 4 skillslots - or 3 and an ultimate.

I´d just much rather have something compareable to leap, incap, sweep (well maybe not sweep) that´s actually a useful low to medium cost instant ultimate instead of a 3rd bar with clunky animations.

I'm just having fun with you Derra I know you're a sorc, and a good one since you seem to be able to solo just fine with just one shield.

I'd love to have an instant lightning damage dawnbreaker type skill instead of overload myself. But barring that I'll keep it as a travel bar.

You do give up something by using it that way. 1. You can't fit lights champion. And 2. You can only access those skill buffs when you have enough ultimate to do so. Once you meteor someone, you need to quickly build up enough ult just to access your own buffs. That's kind of bad. I've been caught unbuffed more often than I care to admit just because I blew an ult.

Subversus

Aedaryl wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

I disagree, it's not 15 skillslots access like a swich bar. You can't use overload if you are outnumbered, because people will kill you easely, or you need your shields and streak for make it work on outnumbered situations, wich it takes 3 skills.

Overload can only be use when you LoS for buffing yourself with long buff, like rune prison for no gank, and you take a lot of risk using it in even in 1v1 because you need 3 sec to use an overload bar skill and back to your true bar (4 if you need to swich).

I personally use overload as a pet sorc, because I have no space in bars, and I put mines and rune prison on it (so my overload bar is 2 pets, wall of element to break the overload bar, mines, prison rune and atronach as thrid ulitmate). I can only use my mines( or my third ultimate) if my ennemy is not on cc imunity, so I can use overload, use rune prison for stunning him and then mines for finallely back to my 2nd bar. It's not an easy way at all.

But I would be so happy if ZoS give a real good ultimate to sorc (by deleting overload), instant, not saying "hello, I'm comming" like 90% sorc damage skills and powerfull (RiP magicka DB).

So you're saying that the third overload bar isn't actually unbalanced yet you later on claim to having access to THREE ultimates? Excuse me? The overload bar is incredibly unbalanced, other classes have toggled abilities just as well, yet they actually have to make sacrifices not just pick literally everything they need and just toss it all on 3 bars.

Minalan

Subversus wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

loki547 wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

OMG THERE IS COUNTER PLAY NERF IT QUICKLY! WE NEED NO COUNTER PLAY!

ay let my wings reflect meteor and we can talk

Only if I can reflect incap and DBoS with the shield ultimate.

Ultimates aren't supposed to be reflectable, except for maybe potato-verload.

Dude I actually killed someone with overload earlier today. Its on my resto bar (my resto is purple quality cause I'm a scrub) and the overload was barely doing any damage at all, but somehow I killed someone. I just thought screw this imma overload this dude and it kinda worked. I'm still shocked.

Erzareth would be proud.

Am i the only one wishing they´d finally turn overlol into a useful ultimate and remove the 3rd bar that creates oh so many balancing problems for sorcs? ._.

I love the third bar, it's great for long term buffs like rapids, surge, and boundless storm. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

And that´s precisely why i think it´s existance is problematic.

It lets you create builds without weakness because you can access 15 skillslots. Not good.

I disagree, it's not 15 skillslots access like a swich bar. You can't use overload if you are outnumbered, because people will kill you easely, or you need your shields and streak for make it work on outnumbered situations, wich it takes 3 skills.

Overload can only be use when you LoS for buffing yourself with long buff, like rune prison for no gank, and you take a lot of risk using it in even in 1v1 because you need 3 sec to use an overload bar skill and back to your true bar (4 if you need to swich).

I personally use overload as a pet sorc, because I have no space in bars, and I put mines and rune prison on it (so my overload bar is 2 pets, wall of element to break the overload bar, mines, prison rune and atronach as thrid ulitmate). I can only use my mines( or my third ultimate) if my ennemy is not on cc imunity, so I can use overload, use rune prison for stunning him and then mines for finallely back to my 2nd bar. It's not an easy way at all.

But I would be so happy if ZoS give a real good ultimate to sorc (by deleting overload), instant, not saying "hello, I'm comming" like 90% sorc damage skills and powerfull (RiP magicka DB).

So you're saying that the third overload bar isn't actually unbalanced yet you later on claim to having access to THREE ultimates? Excuse me? The overload bar is incredibly unbalanced, other classes have toggled abilities just as well, yet they actually have to make sacrifices not just pick literally everything they need and just toss it all on 3 bars.

Nobody has more toggles than sorc. Period.

Lets not drag other classes into this, Nightblades get our best two to three slot toggle skill (bound aegis) as a PASSIVE. A freaking PASSIVE, and Sorcs have to eat 2-3 slots just to get the same 8% max magicka benefit.

Solution: First get rid of double and triple bar toggle skills. Change overload to an instant AOE Magicka chain lightning DBoS or Incap. Win. Until then we're going to use three bars.

Lastly, glitching in a third ultimate is actually a BUG they haven't fixed, not a feature. You need to enter overload, and you can't leave overload with the ultimate key or else you blow that ulti. You have to GLITCH out of overload using a slotted resto staff skill. Nobody does that. It's a bug. Lets stop using this as en effing excuse to break overload functionality.