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Ishammael

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Seeing the possible cp changes and the warden passives and base skills its obvious that certain classes without MAJOR buffs will simply not be competitive. The warden alone takes the best of every class and wraps it into one.

I understand the need for pushing for more Morrowind sales but how can you even begin to say Warden is balanced with all that it offers.

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I just saw @Gilliamtherogue post descriptions of the warden skills in another thread.

One of the skills gives MAJOR HEROISM. If the mDK doesn't get Heroism like it should... I am going to be super salty.

stealthyevil

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I find it kinda sad that all of those abilities only come from two of four classes...

arkansas_ESO

Ishammael wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Seeing the possible cp changes and the warden passives and base skills its obvious that certain classes without MAJOR buffs will simply not be competitive. The warden alone takes the best of every class and wraps it into one.

I understand the need for pushing for more Morrowind sales but how can you even begin to say Warden is balanced with all that it offers.

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I just saw @Gilliamtherogue post descriptions of the warden skills in another thread.

One of the skills gives MAJOR HEROISM. If the mDK doesn't get Heroism like it should... I am going to be super salty.

Isn't Major Heroism the same buff you get from light attacking? That skill probably isn't nearly as good in action as it looks on paper.

Joy_Division

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Seeing the possible cp changes and the warden passives and base skills its obvious that certain classes without MAJOR buffs will simply not be competitive. The warden alone takes the best of every class and wraps it into one.

I understand the need for pushing for more Morrowind sales but how can you even begin to say Warden is balanced with all that it offers.

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I just saw @Gilliamtherogue post descriptions of the warden skills in another thread.

One of the skills gives MAJOR HEROISM. If the mDK doesn't get Heroism like it should... I am going to be super salty.

Isn't Major Heroism the same buff you get from light attacking? That skill probably isn't nearly as good in action as it looks on paper.

Separate buff I believe.

Sanct16

I think forcing people to build for more sustain is a good change.

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Seeing the possible cp changes and the warden passives and base skills its obvious that certain classes without MAJOR buffs will simply not be competitive. The warden alone takes the best of every class and wraps it into one.

I understand the need for pushing for more Morrowind sales but how can you even begin to say Warden is balanced with all that it offers.

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I just saw @Gilliamtherogue post descriptions of the warden skills in another thread.

One of the skills gives MAJOR HEROISM. If the mDK doesn't get Heroism like it should... I am going to be super salty.

Isn't Major Heroism the same buff you get from light attacking? That skill probably isn't nearly as good in action as it looks on paper.

Its the same buff you get from the Last Stand Cp passive.

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@IxSTALKERxI since when does magicka dk have good aoe damage? Mdk is easily the worst mag class for aoe dps.

Gilliamtherogue

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Seeing the possible cp changes and the warden passives and base skills its obvious that certain classes without MAJOR buffs will simply not be competitive. The warden alone takes the best of every class and wraps it into one.

I understand the need for pushing for more Morrowind sales but how can you even begin to say Warden is balanced with all that it offers.

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I just saw @Gilliamtherogue post descriptions of the warden skills in another thread.

One of the skills gives MAJOR HEROISM. If the mDK doesn't get Heroism like it should... I am going to be super salty.

Isn't Major Heroism the same buff you get from light attacking? That skill probably isn't nearly as good in action as it looks on paper.

Major Heroism and the ulti gen from Light/Heavy Attacking or Blocking stack, they are not the same buff.

IxSTALKERxI

Sanct16 wrote: »

@IxSTALKERxI since when does magicka dk have good aoe damage? Mdk is easily the worst mag class for aoe dps.

Worst? O.o I think it's 2nd best behind NB for bombing.

Dunmer DK with dw/destro BSW + spinners - destro ultimate + inhale + talons + prox det... that's a lot of aoe damage. I've had a couple of players run DK bomb builds in group and pump out numbers close to the nb's.

BohnT

Warden will be a pain in the a** with all that ultimate

Ishammael

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Seeing the possible cp changes and the warden passives and base skills its obvious that certain classes without MAJOR buffs will simply not be competitive. The warden alone takes the best of every class and wraps it into one.

I understand the need for pushing for more Morrowind sales but how can you even begin to say Warden is balanced with all that it offers.

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I just saw @Gilliamtherogue post descriptions of the warden skills in another thread.

One of the skills gives MAJOR HEROISM. If the mDK doesn't get Heroism like it should... I am going to be super salty.

Isn't Major Heroism the same buff you get from light attacking? That skill probably isn't nearly as good in action as it looks on paper.

No.

Sanct16 wrote: »

I think forcing people to build for more sustain is a good change.

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Seeing the possible cp changes and the warden passives and base skills its obvious that certain classes without MAJOR buffs will simply not be competitive. The warden alone takes the best of every class and wraps it into one.

I understand the need for pushing for more Morrowind sales but how can you even begin to say Warden is balanced with all that it offers.

Warden looks very versatile but there are still 5 reasons not to play warden.

-Negate
-Repentence
-Curse
-Backlash
-Will AoE damage be better than MDK and MNB??

But yeah, if you don't need those things reroll warden haha.

I just saw @Gilliamtherogue post descriptions of the warden skills in another thread.

One of the skills gives MAJOR HEROISM. If the mDK doesn't get Heroism like it should... I am going to be super salty.

Isn't Major Heroism the same buff you get from light attacking? That skill probably isn't nearly as good in action as it looks on paper.

Its the same buff you get from the Last Stand Cp passive.

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@IxSTALKERxI since when does magicka dk have good aoe damage? Mdk is easily the worst mag class for aoe dps.

Last Stand passive in a hard-to-get spot for mDK

Lokey0024

Soooo, any word on how a magika class sustains using melee weapons?

Asgari

Im also wondering why the warden has so many major and minor buffs from every class along with reworked skills that the classes they were stolen from could have used as needed buffs.

Minno

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Im also wondering why the warden has so many major and minor buffs from every class along with reworked skills that the classes they were stolen from could have used as needed buffs.

Maybe they will get those buffs!

But who am I kidding, they will probably nerf channeled focus, take away our ultimate/cost reduction Templar passive, and increase the amount of crowns it costs to change classes. They will probably also give server performance priority to anyone that bought the new dlc lol

FENGRUSH

NB also gets a lot of buffs. You cant use them all though.

Minno

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NB also gets a lot of buffs. You cant use them all though.

Did you notice anything else from the other classes/weapons for the Morrowind dlc from Pax?

Asgari

Minno wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NB also gets a lot of buffs. You cant use them all though.

Did you notice anything else from the other classes/weapons for the Morrowind dlc from Pax?

I think he meant NB has lots of major and minor buffs but can't use them all.

rimmidimdim

Siphoning attacks! A buff for NB's! Nice! I Like it. Com on boys and gals this is a troll post with truth. Let me have it lol.

Jaybe_Mawfaka

Cost poisons type cp passive to punish small scalers even more than right now.. What a wonderful idea! As usual.
Like 60% cost poisons that casuals are spamming in 100v4 are not enough. I really wonder how the guy who's being responsible for all this changes thinks that it might be a good idea to solve the infinite sustain issue.

alephthiago

Can we get a free big rock and dark deal for every class so we can hide and get our resources back?

FENGRUSH

Minno wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NB also gets a lot of buffs. You cant use them all though.

Did you notice anything else from the other classes/weapons for the Morrowind dlc from Pax?

Not sure what you mean - other changes? Not particularly

WeylandLabs

Debuff my regen lol All hail Stam Sorcs !

HoloYoitsu

In light of our new 100% regen debuff uptime meta overlords, I have decided upon the perfect build. I will just be a s/b ice staff block tank. Also mist forming for even more 0 mag regen.

IxSTALKERxI

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

In light of our new 100% regen debuff uptime meta overlords, I have decided upon the perfect build. I will just be a s/b ice staff block tank. Also mist forming for even more 0 mag regen.

Shh, wrobel will introduce negative regen as a new mechanic. Don't give him any ideas.

Lucky28

i really hope cost reduction and regen isn't nerfed. i mean solo/small scale has already gotten so much harder than it used to be, i really don't think it can take another hit.

Asgari

Lucky28 wrote: »

i really hope cost reduction and regen isn't nerfed. i mean solo/small scale has already gotten so much harder than it used to be, i really don't think it can take another hit.

Im pretty sure wheeler doesnt like the idea of 1vX or 1-6 people killing off large numbers. Each update like this there is always a change to make it harder and harder for those smaller groups.

Minno

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NB also gets a lot of buffs. You cant use them all though.

Did you notice anything else from the other classes/weapons for the Morrowind dlc from Pax?

Not sure what you mean - other changes? Not particularly

Yea, just asking if there were any changes you saw from playing the Morrowind update at pax.

PTS will be here soon enough regardless. Thanks!

Minno

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NB also gets a lot of buffs. You cant use them all though.

Did you notice anything else from the other classes/weapons for the Morrowind dlc from Pax?

I think he meant NB has lots of major and minor buffs but can't use them all.

Yea that I understood. I skipped ahead to see if he noticed other class changes at Pax. Damn brain without coffee

Unfadingsilence

Glory wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

Much rather eat the 10% hit to my already low recovery stats for 3 seconds than increased ability cost by 60% for 10 seconds, which is possible already with poisons.

There's rumors that this in addition to removing Magician/Warlord and nerfing Arcanist/Mooncalf.

If they make these changes they HAVE to also change damage CP, otherwise numbers win all (even more).

I have seen those screen shots as well I wonder what will really come to be when the pts comes out

thankyourat

Lucky28 wrote: »

i really hope cost reduction and regen isn't nerfed. i mean solo/small scale has already gotten so much harder than it used to be, i really don't think it can take another hit.

I actually like the idea of nerfing regen. No CP week I had a much easier time 1vXing because people didn't know how to manage their resources. The change in the original post is horrible though and only makes Xv1ing stronger. I don't understand the concept large groups have always had an advantage what's the point of giving them more.

No_True_Scotsman

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

@IxSTALKERxI since when does magicka dk have good aoe damage? Mdk is easily the worst mag class for aoe dps.

Worst? O.o I think it's 2nd best behind NB for bombing.

Dunmer DK with dw/destro BSW + spinners - destro ultimate + inhale + talons + prox det... that's a lot of aoe damage. I've had a couple of players run DK bomb builds in group and pump out numbers close to the nb's.

They can't position like NB's though. I think sorcs come in second for bombing, because they can streak to stay on target and endless fury for VD procs.

Lucky28

thankyourat wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

i really hope cost reduction and regen isn't nerfed. i mean solo/small scale has already gotten so much harder than it used to be, i really don't think it can take another hit.

I actually like the idea of nerfing regen. No CP week I had a much easier time 1vXing because people didn't know how to manage their resources. The change in the original post is horrible though and only makes Xv1ing stronger. I don't understand the concept large groups have always had an advantage what's the point of giving them more.

I don't. Perma block needs to be nerfed but nerfing regen in general does nothing but promote faction stacking even worse than it currently is.