[Video] LeifyEric Dual Wield Magicka Sorc Outnumbered PvP

LeifErickson

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Once you have a sharpened Maelstrom destro staff dual wield sorc becomes a "thing you used to do." That's just my opinion though.

I have two of them.

NightSquirrel

Like I said, just my opinion, probably has to do with playstyle but I find I can weave a higher dps more consistently with a staff.

I'm sorry I meant to include that it was a great video and some sick plays. Much respect.

Minalan

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Once you have a sharpened Maelstrom destro staff dual wield sorc becomes a "thing you used to do." That's just my opinion though.

Just curious, why? You aren't using wall of elements in open PVP, and it's worth maybe 200 spell damage tops (which you can get about on average from a spell damage enchant proc every few seconds).

NightSquirrel

Non maelstrom spell damage weapon enchant requires a previous attack to proc correct? So you won't get that damage on opening heavy attack. A constant spell damage increase enchantment is better than one that has to be procd. I think if you are using willpower, maelstrom staff is BiS as far as staffs go. If you aren't doing 5:5:2 with dual wield than maelstrom enchant is definitely better than a 1/5 set staff with crafted enchantment.

My current build is all divines except big pieces, 1/1 maelstrom, 2/2 slimecraw, 3/3 willpower, and either 5/5 necropotence or 5/5 spinners, in case you were interested.

NightbladeMechanics

LeifErickson wrote: »

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Once you have a sharpened Maelstrom destro staff dual wield sorc becomes a "thing you used to do." That's just my opinion though.

I have two of them.

Can I have one?

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Like I said, just my opinion, probably has to do with playstyle but I find I can weave a higher dps more consistently with a staff.

I'm sorry I meant to include that it was a great video and some sick plays. Much respect.

Leif builds for burst, not dps.

NightSquirrel

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Leif builds for burst, not dps.

Yes, I see this . . . all forms of damage are still measured in some form of damage/time. Dps and burst damage are not oppositional terms in any way. Burst damage would be a term describing a form OF dps.

When I was saying what I do with my build I was not trying to make any insinuation of anything anyone else does. It's all gravy my friend.

LeifErickson

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Once you have a sharpened Maelstrom destro staff dual wield sorc becomes a "thing you used to do." That's just my opinion though.

I have two of them.

Can I have one?

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Like I said, just my opinion, probably has to do with playstyle but I find I can weave a higher dps more consistently with a staff.

I'm sorry I meant to include that it was a great video and some sick plays. Much respect.

Leif builds for burst, not dps.

I'll trade it for that master 2h sharpened.

NightSquirrel

LeifErickson wrote: »

I'll trade it for that master 2h sharpened.

What char/build would you use it on? I just checked the specs of it and noticed the 1h masters sword... are there people running around with the masters 1h and tremorscale??

LeifErickson

NightSquirrel wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I'll trade it for that master 2h sharpened.

LeifErickson wrote: »

What char/build would you use it on? I just checked the specs of it and noticed the 1h masters sword... are there people running around with the masters 1h and tremorscale??

Not sure about master 1h but the 2h is equal to the maelstrom one.

NightbladeMechanics

LeifErickson wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Once you have a sharpened Maelstrom destro staff dual wield sorc becomes a "thing you used to do." That's just my opinion though.

I have two of them.

Can I have one?

NightSquirrel wrote: »

Like I said, just my opinion, probably has to do with playstyle but I find I can weave a higher dps more consistently with a staff.

I'm sorry I meant to include that it was a great video and some sick plays. Much respect.

Leif builds for burst, not dps.

I'll trade it for that master 2h sharpened.

Deal.

Torbschka

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Epic Video!

How do u guys Gattung 50k - 58k maxagicka without pet? @Lord_Hev

What about this setup:

Bar 1:
Willpower sword
Shadowdancer sword

Bar 2:
Shadowdancer resto

Body:
Piraten skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Pirate skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Shadowdancer
Shadowdancer
Necro
Necro
Necro

Jewelry:
Willpower
Willpower
Necro

Cant think of any other, which would give me as high magicka without Pets as these setup.

How mich wouls I reach with this with only max magicka food and without bound aegis?

Blue food and no bound aegis, you will sit at around 55k with double magic monster sets and the mage stone.

But how do you guys reach 58k ? Is it with bound aegis slotted? Anyway, played a lot of DW since thieves guild (sorc nerf was actually the reason I started as a sorc)?

I dont want to make a New thread, so I am sry to usw this one, but how is my posted setup for a dual wield sorc? I will usw max + reg food and plan on thieve mundus and favor Pirate skeleton.

Are there better options or is that solid?

Lord_Hev

Torbschka wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Epic Video!

How do u guys Gattung 50k - 58k maxagicka without pet? @Lord_Hev

What about this setup:

Bar 1:
Willpower sword
Shadowdancer sword

Bar 2:
Shadowdancer resto

Body:
Piraten skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Pirate skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Shadowdancer
Shadowdancer
Necro
Necro
Necro

Jewelry:
Willpower
Willpower
Necro

Cant think of any other, which would give me as high magicka without Pets as these setup.

How mich wouls I reach with this with only max magicka food and without bound aegis?

Blue food and no bound aegis, you will sit at around 55k with double magic monster sets and the mage stone.

But how do you guys reach 58k ? Is it with bound aegis slotted? Anyway, played a lot of DW since thieves guild (sorc nerf was actually the reason I started as a sorc)?

I dont want to make a New thread, so I am sry to usw this one, but how is my posted setup for a dual wield sorc? I will usw max + reg food and plan on thieve mundus and favor Pirate skeleton.

Are there better options or is that solid?

I reach 58k with bound aegis stacked with inner light. Things usually die when I land a 23k crystal frag on them. Well-geared/played enemies require frags into a meteor/soul assault/Dawnbreaker to die followed up by a fury execute.


Your set-up is similar to mine but with different pieces and gears used in different slots, but mathematically what you suggested is similar. The main drawback is that even with that amount of firepower, the tank meta of today makes pulling it off easier said then done for the most part.

The strength Red's build has, is that it is far more sustainable, and allows generous kiting capability. My 58k magic is pure balls deep. I either land a new Tamriel record on you, or I get poisoned and ran out of resources.


That said, I experimented with Pirate Skelly on my set-up. 51k magic on my shield stack bar, and I could dance in stacked destro ults when it proc'd, lol.

Minalan

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Epic Video!

How do u guys Gattung 50k - 58k maxagicka without pet? @Lord_Hev

What about this setup:

Bar 1:
Willpower sword
Shadowdancer sword

Bar 2:
Shadowdancer resto

Body:
Piraten skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Pirate skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Shadowdancer
Shadowdancer
Necro
Necro
Necro

Jewelry:
Willpower
Willpower
Necro

Cant think of any other, which would give me as high magicka without Pets as these setup.

How mich wouls I reach with this with only max magicka food and without bound aegis?

Blue food and no bound aegis, you will sit at around 55k with double magic monster sets and the mage stone.

But how do you guys reach 58k ? Is it with bound aegis slotted? Anyway, played a lot of DW since thieves guild (sorc nerf was actually the reason I started as a sorc)?

I dont want to make a New thread, so I am sry to usw this one, but how is my posted setup for a dual wield sorc? I will usw max + reg food and plan on thieve mundus and favor Pirate skeleton.

Are there better options or is that solid?

I reach 58k with bound aegis stacked with inner light. Things usually die when I land a 23k crystal frag on them. Well-geared/played enemies require frags into a meteor/soul assault/Dawnbreaker to die followed up by a fury execute.


Your set-up is similar to mine but with different pieces and gears used in different slots, but mathematically what you suggested is similar. The main drawback is that even with that amount of firepower, the tank meta of today makes pulling it off easier said then done for the most part.

The strength Red's build has, is that it is far more sustainable, and allows generous kiting capability. My 58k magic is pure balls deep. I either land a new Tamriel record on you, or I get poisoned and ran out of resources.

That said, I experimented with Pirate Skelly on my set-up. 51k magic on my shield stack bar, and I could dance in stacked destro ults when it proc'd, lol.

Red's build also has more ulility with the extra 2-3 slots. I tried the max mag stack with 57-58K and it just didn't have enough room on the bar for anything more than just frags, entropy, and fury. Mine was a little less because thief mundus.

Problem is that frags is the most counterable attack in the game. You run into a block build, they just tear you up when your resources are out. You run into a dodge roller, same thing. We need Curse and Mines or Dark Exchange without needing to dig into the overload bar.

The tank meta is worse every day I swear, as everyone slowly discovers malubeth part 2, the king of trolls.

LeifErickson

Minalan wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Torbschka wrote: »

Epic Video!

How do u guys Gattung 50k - 58k maxagicka without pet? @Lord_Hev

What about this setup:

Bar 1:
Willpower sword
Shadowdancer sword

Bar 2:
Shadowdancer resto

Body:
Piraten skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Pirate skeleton / max magicka Monster set
Shadowdancer
Shadowdancer
Necro
Necro
Necro

Jewelry:
Willpower
Willpower
Necro

Cant think of any other, which would give me as high magicka without Pets as these setup.

How mich wouls I reach with this with only max magicka food and without bound aegis?

Blue food and no bound aegis, you will sit at around 55k with double magic monster sets and the mage stone.

But how do you guys reach 58k ? Is it with bound aegis slotted? Anyway, played a lot of DW since thieves guild (sorc nerf was actually the reason I started as a sorc)?

I dont want to make a New thread, so I am sry to usw this one, but how is my posted setup for a dual wield sorc? I will usw max + reg food and plan on thieve mundus and favor Pirate skeleton.

Are there better options or is that solid?

I reach 58k with bound aegis stacked with inner light. Things usually die when I land a 23k crystal frag on them. Well-geared/played enemies require frags into a meteor/soul assault/Dawnbreaker to die followed up by a fury execute.


Your set-up is similar to mine but with different pieces and gears used in different slots, but mathematically what you suggested is similar. The main drawback is that even with that amount of firepower, the tank meta of today makes pulling it off easier said then done for the most part.

The strength Red's build has, is that it is far more sustainable, and allows generous kiting capability. My 58k magic is pure balls deep. I either land a new Tamriel record on you, or I get poisoned and ran out of resources.

That said, I experimented with Pirate Skelly on my set-up. 51k magic on my shield stack bar, and I could dance in stacked destro ults when it proc'd, lol.

Red's build also has more ulility with the extra 2-3 slots. I tried the max mag stack with 57-58K and it just didn't have enough room on the bar for anything more than just frags, entropy, and fury. Mine was a little less because thief mundus.

Problem is that frags is the most counterable attack in the game. You run into a block build, they just tear you up when your resources are out. You run into a dodge roller, same thing. We need Curse and Mines or Dark Exchange without needing to dig into the overload bar.

The tank meta is worse every day I swear, as everyone slowly discovers malubeth part 2, the king of trolls.

Yeah I kill people with all undodgeable attacks all the time, which helps when you can't land a frag. People who are in medium armor all it takes is an endless fury, curse, and dawnbreaker - all attacks that cannot be dodged. Sometimes instead of dawnbreaker I can use streak if they are squishy, which is also undodgeable. It doesn't hurt that my streaks are basically surprise attacks.

Lord_Hev

Last time I used streak on my front bar was when inevitable Det was a thing. It is handy to have there, may take some re-training on my stubborn muscle memory tho lol.

Minalan

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Last time I used streak on my front bar was when inevitable Det was a thing. It is handy to have there, may take some re-training on my stubborn muscle memory tho lol.

Back in the day I had it double-barred, Ezareth style

Changing your hotkey and bar setup is the single most destructive thing you can do to your gameplay. it takes forever to get used to. I moved mines off the overload bar, and I still catch myself switching there trying to kick it off.

Torbschka

Thanks for the answer. Well, what is the op actually using in that Video? Didnt find anything about reddington build.