@zos for the next test can you just shut the servers off for a week?

asneakybanana

Title pretty much says it all. This test has been so much worse than the way the game was that zos probably would be better off taking the servers down for a week and doing a massive maintenance/code overhaul to try and fix the lag.

Satiar

Why is it worse in your opinion? The skill cap is absolutely higher, trade offs in builds are actually important. There's no more unkillable super tanks. I could go on, but I'm more curious as to what has so drastically ruined it for you. Bombing still works fine.

LeifErickson

My findings have been group pvp is much easier while solo pvp is much harder.

Glory

asneakybanana wrote: »

Title pretty much says it all. This test has been so much worse than the way the game was that zos probably would be better off taking the servers down for a week and doing a massive maintenance/code overhaul to try and fix the lag.

You seem unhappy lately sneaky What's upsetting you?

HoloYoitsu

Satiar wrote: »

Why is it worse in your opinion? The skill cap is absolutely higher, trade offs in builds are actually important. There's no more unkillable super tanks. I could go on, but I'm more curious as to what has so drastically ruined it for you. Bombing still works fine.

A little birdie told me that you actually need properly padded packaging to protect squishy bananas without CP.

asneakybanana

Satiar wrote: »

Why is it worse in your opinion? The skill cap is absolutely higher, trade offs in builds are actually important. There's no more unkillable super tanks. I could go on, but I'm more curious as to what has so drastically ruined it for you. Bombing still works fine.

zergs and lag. I agree that it's fun when it's working but this whole event has simply encouraged balling up and toppling over 12k tick after 12k tick. I understand they wanted to encourage ppl to pvp but they should have just doubled ap for kills and heals and left ticks alone since they were already way more than double what they should be. And then the lag, oh boy the lag. With this clumping up it has felt laggier(using nouns as verbs is hawt) than ever. Last night my ping hit 999+ for the first time in a long time apart from the DDoS week and we actually had a massive game crash, not a server crash but a huge client crash at drakelowe last night when ~60 ad and 80 ep were fighting over the keep. Also, yay for double AP but the campaigns have been flooded w/ PVE players just trying to get their alliance ranks from ticks instead of actually pvping and testing and the Queues have been the highest i've seen since 1.6 which has actually deterred a lot of the real players from testing

EDIT: whoops forgot the siege this week. Its just so lol. YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB!!!!

asneakybanana

asneakybanana wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Why is it worse in your opinion? The skill cap is absolutely higher, trade offs in builds are actually important. There's no more unkillable super tanks. I could go on, but I'm more curious as to what has so drastically ruined it for you. Bombing still works fine.

zergs and lag. I agree that it's fun when it's working but this whole event has simply encouraged balling up and toppling over 12k tick after 12k tick. I understand they wanted to encourage ppl to pvp but they should have just doubled ap for kills and heals and left ticks alone since they were already way more than double what they should be. And then the lag, oh boy the lag. With this clumping up it has felt laggier(using nouns as verbs is hawt) than ever. Last night my ping hit 999+ for the first time in a long time apart from the DDoS week and we actually had a massive game crash, not a server crash but a huge client crash at drakelowe last night when ~60 ad and 80 ep were fighting over the keep. Also, yay for double AP but the campaigns have been flooded w/ PVE players just trying to get their alliance ranks from ticks instead of actually pvping and testing and the Queues have been the highest i've seen since 1.6 which has actually deterred a lot of the real players from testing

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zyk

asneakybanana wrote: »

Title pretty much says it all. This test has been so much worse than the way the game was that zos probably would be better off taking the servers down for a week and doing a massive maintenance/code overhaul to try and fix the lag.

What do you think taking the servers down for a week can improve? The servers do not need to be taken down to overhaul the codebase or redesign the game. They would only need to come down to apply an update. I'm pretty sure you understand this...

ESO AvA was already a disaster. I'm glad @ZOS_BrianWheeler is doing everything in his power to improve the situation. This is better than silence from ZOS for months as the problems pile up.

NightbladeMechanics

Queues have been manageable in Had and Azura's. If TF is full, it's full. I'm excited to see PvP this populated.

Siege is impactful, but it won't kill you on its own unless you aren't paying attention. I'm playing a light armor vampire with no health bonuses, so I know how much it hurts. Also you have a shield and purge..

Destro bombing is stronger than ever without CP. Isn't that like all you do? My friends are flipping out they're having so much fun bombing right now.

My overall impression has been that group play, both large and small scale, is more enjoyable because mistakes are punishable and no one has infinite resources or healing. Soloing is harder overall, but some classes fare much better than others, displaying a greater reliance on CP for some classes.

I've noticed very little lag even in massive sieges unless a ball guild is on the server. Then it's crippling lag...

BuggeX

anything in his power..... give out free ap in a week where many Players farmed years for it.
make cyroddil worthless with the coming bgs.

poblem solved. that will be zos plan as they cant fix the lag

silky_soft

Remove aoe caps next week.

DeadlyRecluse

asneakybanana wrote: »

I understand they wanted to encourage ppl to pvp but they should have just doubled ap for kills and heals and left ticks alone since they were already way more than double what they should be. !

This is 100 percent what I think they should have done as well.

The double AP in conjunction with increased XP for noninteractive resource flipping or PvDooring has significantly altered player behavior.

IxSTALKERxI

asneakybanana wrote: »

YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB!!!!

Lolll. Was doing this to TKG last night with 3 coldfire trebs.

Ferretstalker

I'm a resident of Azura's normally and big fights always lead to lagging out. I'm not sure where they came to the conclusion that Azura's is somehow the perfect PvP setting and that CP was the cause of all the lag.

NightbladeMechanics

silky_soft wrote: »

Remove aoe caps next week.

Hell yes! Let's "test" those. :^)

And "test" restricting group sizes to 10.

And "test" removing healing springs from the game. lolol

Earendal

Lets test adding deer.

Mojomonkeyman

This community gets the game it deserves. Solo play died this week, yet all the zergboys are celebrating. You are not alone, OP.

Draxys

Test might have been worth it if the keep take values were actually reasonable. Maybe next time "test" replacing some employees with competent ones?

Turelus

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

asneakybanana wrote: »

I understand they wanted to encourage ppl to pvp but they should have just doubled ap for kills and heals and left ticks alone since they were already way more than double what they should be. !

This is 100 percent what I think they should have done as well.

The double AP in conjunction with increased XP for noninteractive resource flipping or PvDooring has significantly altered player behavior.

You mean to say people are using siege and fighting for keeps rather than farming newbies at resources all day for "elite PvP"?

loki547

LeifErickson wrote: »

My findings have been group pvp is much easier while solo pvp is much harder.

Zerg surfing still easy!

usmcjdking

Don't remove AOE caps.

Legitimately inverse them. 50% dmg to the first 6 players and scaling up to 100%. AOEs are way too potent in PVP.

Recremen

@asneakybanana

According to Brian Wheeler on ESO Live last Friday, the balling up and concentrating at keeps is 100% what they want us to do for this test week. As a code developer I can (I hope) offer some insight on that. What they're probably trying to do right now is gather a more robust set of data in the most extreme conditions possible for PvP, and that's only possible on the production servers while we're actually PvPing. With that data they can then better fix the base-game code, and also work on figuring out how to streamline or change the CP code based on the types of calculation bottlenecks they see in the most extreme PvP situations.

I know it sucks for smaller groups, bomb-blades, etc. right now, but it's just a few more days and then it's back to normal. Join a zerg, spam some AoE, and just hope it'll help ZOS improve the game, I say!

Jitterbug

asneakybanana wrote: »

(using nouns as verbs is hawt)

Using pronouns as proverbs even more so

MoreDino

Is this the topic where we pretend all 3 factions weren't already stacking 100+ people at keeps prior to this week? Cool.

Derra

LeifErickson wrote: »

My findings have been group pvp is much easier while solo pvp is much harder.

Depends on grpsize from my experience.

Duo Trio is absolutely horrible (unless your enemies are terrible or you fight even numbers).
Every player added on top makes it easier.

Anazasi

asneakybanana wrote: »

Satiar wrote: »

Why is it worse in your opinion? The skill cap is absolutely higher, trade offs in builds are actually important. There's no more unkillable super tanks. I could go on, but I'm more curious as to what has so drastically ruined it for you. Bombing still works fine.

zergs and lag. I agree that it's fun when it's working but this whole event has simply encouraged balling up and toppling over 12k tick after 12k tick. I understand they wanted to encourage ppl to pvp but they should have just doubled ap for kills and heals and left ticks alone since they were already way more than double what they should be. And then the lag, oh boy the lag. With this clumping up it has felt laggier(using nouns as verbs is hawt) than ever. Last night my ping hit 999+ for the first time in a long time apart from the DDoS week and we actually had a massive game crash, not a server crash but a huge client crash at drakelowe last night when ~60 ad and 80 ep were fighting over the keep. Also, yay for double AP but the campaigns have been flooded w/ PVE players just trying to get their alliance ranks from ticks instead of actually pvping and testing and the Queues have been the highest i've seen since 1.6 which has actually deterred a lot of the real players from testing

EDIT: whoops forgot the siege this week. Its just so lol. YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB AND YOU GET A 15K TREB!!!!

Well I would have to agree to a point. The quality of PVP has become quantity although last night at Ash my little 12 man wiped a DC raid. I'm not a fan of this weeks adventures, but when in Rome, right. It will be over soon and everyone can go back to deciding how best to zerg with lower numbers.

Joy_Division

Nest test ZoS does, I'm stocking up on my Coldifre.

zuto40

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

silky_soft wrote: »

Remove aoe caps next week.

Hell yes! Let's "test" those. :^)

And "test" restricting group sizes to 10.

And "test" removing healing springs from the game. lolol

lets test where if you crouch over a deadbody you instantly explode dealing 1 million damage to you and everyone in your group

holosoul

zuto40 wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

silky_soft wrote: »

Remove aoe caps next week.

Hell yes! Let's "test" those. :^)

And "test" restricting group sizes to 10.

And "test" removing healing springs from the game. lolol

lets test where if you crouch over a deadbody you instantly explode dealing 1 million damage to you and everyone in your group

it's all fun and games until you have to sneak through a keep full of dead bodies

souravami

Awww poor gankblades cannot one shot anyone without CP and getting noobfiltered in a fair fight. Please give them back their 600 cps and some extra so that they can kill a group of CP 50 and call it 1vX.

zuto40

holosoul wrote: »

zuto40 wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

silky_soft wrote: »

Remove aoe caps next week.

Hell yes! Let's "test" those. :^)

And "test" restricting group sizes to 10.

And "test" removing healing springs from the game. lolol

lets test where if you crouch over a deadbody you instantly explode dealing 1 million damage to you and everyone in your group

it's all fun and games until you have to sneak through a keep full of dead bodies

its still fun for anyone watching