Seraphayel wrote: »Never ending story, today morning they've been there as well and I am pretty sure they'll be there this evening again. Keep reporting! Maybe we'll win the fight.
DRXHarbinger wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Never ending story, today morning they've been there as well and I am pretty sure they'll be there this evening again. Keep reporting! Maybe we'll win the fight.
Where are they today? I want to go and check this out. I'll go magblade take aggro and cloak and they'll get killed.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »@Seraphayel Were you able to report this group? If so, could you pass along your ticket number please?
lordrichter wrote: »I am just curious. If I will read a book or watch tv, while holding right trigger with my finger, will be I recognized as cheater or bot handler?
Why would you do this? Just play the game.
But, to answer your question, there was a person in here not to long ago that claimed they were playing with their toe while watching Netflix, etc. They were banned for botting, I guess.
This is why I say that it is not how you do it, but what you are doing.
RoamingRiverElk wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »I am just curious. If I will read a book or watch tv, while holding right trigger with my finger, will be I recognized as cheater or bot handler?
Why would you do this? Just play the game.
But, to answer your question, there was a person in here not to long ago that claimed they were playing with their toe while watching Netflix, etc. They were banned for botting, I guess.
This is why I say that it is not how you do it, but what you are doing.
1) One must also keep one's thoughts pure - when in ESO, only ESO. No other thoughts allowed.
2) ZOS really should be able to monitor our thoughts better. What could we do to further this goal?
driosketch wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »driosketch wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »I am just curious. If I will read a book or watch tv, while holding right trigger with my finger, will be I recognized as cheater or bot handler?
Why would you do this? Just play the game.
But, to answer your question, there was a person in here not to long ago that claimed they were playing with their toe while watching Netflix, etc. They were banned for botting, I guess.
This is why I say that it is not how you do it, but what you are doing.
So here is the thing.
Every once in a while, i have a char go to a fire and burn down my excess provisioning mats - where i have over 1000 of recipes (1000 click so 4000 portions) that can be cooked that i dont ever use etc - to get them down to 500 and then sell the products at like what 5g each to the vendor. usually can make tens of thousands but it takes a lot of click-click-click-click.
So i have sat here, clicking, while also watching netflix or google or some other stream.
Even then i thought "someone might think i am a bot cuz i have been standing here for an hour just making the ..."
never been banned. Dont expect to ever be.
but if inattention combined with repetition is cause for punishment, they should really look into a "craft multiple" option built into the main game craft UI without add-ons.
I don't know why people feel the need to lawyer the point. I remember during the bot crisis people would come in here and claim, "I'm not botting, I'm farming. I'm capable of being super percise humanly in my route, and I have chat turned off so I won't see your real person check message."
Your finger would cramp if you held the trigger for 8 hours straight, which is what we are talking about here. It's like 2:1 waiting around vs activity, sometimes longer, why would you shoot at nothing when you could give your finger a break? If you're really there you should be aware enough not to stand in the auto fire clump. Also, aren't you going to want to collect the loot as well?
People AFK in front of the bank or craft stations, all the time, there is no external animation of your actions. To be frank, it's not blatant like a group doing heavy staff attacks at an anchor.
i have chat off most days cuz visually impaired so reading it while doing stuff is basically impossible.
So there you go... another notch in the must be a bot report him category.
Do not get me wrong - no love for bots or botting or any of that - i enjoy playing.
But sometimes the cure is worse than the crime esp if witch hunts are involved where "guilt by association" and "if you are standing there its your fault" logic is sufficient to prosecute. most of the time i dont pay any attention to the other PVE players in overland stuff. i have no idea who i am standing beside or how long they have been there.
You also are not firing off a light staff attack once per second for 8 hours straight at a dolmen, without otherwise moving.
But if i am standing in beside a bunch of folks who are and a witch hunter cursors over and sees my character id are they gonna take the time to tell who is who or is it my fault for standing where they have determined guilt by association applies?
This is what I'm talking about. Why are you trying so hard to look like a bot while claiming you are not botting?
Are you really asking why someone with a ranged weapon would stand in a spot that allows shots at the target but is difficult or impossible for the target to get to?
really?
c'mon?
Obviously if i had nothing to hide i wouldn't be choosing such a position.
Right?
and why dont i check my chat window often enough?
or dance emote?
surely something must be amiss - call the inquisition.
if you dunk a botter underwater is it that if they drown they were innocent or the reverse? i forget.
and surely anyone who posts questioning the witch hunt... they must have something to hide too...
DRXHarbinger wrote: »Enroute.
CromulentForumID wrote: »driosketch wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »driosketch wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »I am just curious. If I will read a book or watch tv, while holding right trigger with my finger, will be I recognized as cheater or bot handler?
Why would you do this? Just play the game.
But, to answer your question, there was a person in here not to long ago that claimed they were playing with their toe while watching Netflix, etc. They were banned for botting, I guess.
This is why I say that it is not how you do it, but what you are doing.
So here is the thing.
Every once in a while, i have a char go to a fire and burn down my excess provisioning mats - where i have over 1000 of recipes (1000 click so 4000 portions) that can be cooked that i dont ever use etc - to get them down to 500 and then sell the products at like what 5g each to the vendor. usually can make tens of thousands but it takes a lot of click-click-click-click.
So i have sat here, clicking, while also watching netflix or google or some other stream.
Even then i thought "someone might think i am a bot cuz i have been standing here for an hour just making the ..."
never been banned. Dont expect to ever be.
but if inattention combined with repetition is cause for punishment, they should really look into a "craft multiple" option built into the main game craft UI without add-ons.
I don't know why people feel the need to lawyer the point. I remember during the bot crisis people would come in here and claim, "I'm not botting, I'm farming. I'm capable of being super percise humanly in my route, and I have chat turned off so I won't see your real person check message."
Your finger would cramp if you held the trigger for 8 hours straight, which is what we are talking about here. It's like 2:1 waiting around vs activity, sometimes longer, why would you shoot at nothing when you could give your finger a break? If you're really there you should be aware enough not to stand in the auto fire clump. Also, aren't you going to want to collect the loot as well?
People AFK in front of the bank or craft stations, all the time, there is no external animation of your actions. To be frank, it's not blatant like a group doing heavy staff attacks at an anchor.
i have chat off most days cuz visually impaired so reading it while doing stuff is basically impossible.
So there you go... another notch in the must be a bot report him category.
Do not get me wrong - no love for bots or botting or any of that - i enjoy playing.
But sometimes the cure is worse than the crime esp if witch hunts are involved where "guilt by association" and "if you are standing there its your fault" logic is sufficient to prosecute. most of the time i dont pay any attention to the other PVE players in overland stuff. i have no idea who i am standing beside or how long they have been there.
You also are not firing off a light staff attack once per second for 8 hours straight at a dolmen, without otherwise moving.
But if i am standing in beside a bunch of folks who are and a witch hunter cursors over and sees my character id are they gonna take the time to tell who is who or is it my fault for standing where they have determined guilt by association applies?
This is what I'm talking about. Why are you trying so hard to look like a bot while claiming you are not botting?
Are you really asking why someone with a ranged weapon would stand in a spot that allows shots at the target but is difficult or impossible for the target to get to?
really?
c'mon?
Obviously if i had nothing to hide i wouldn't be choosing such a position.
Right?
and why dont i check my chat window often enough?
or dance emote?
surely something must be amiss - call the inquisition.
if you dunk a botter underwater is it that if they drown they were innocent or the reverse? i forget.
and surely anyone who posts questioning the witch hunt... they must have something to hide too...
I am not sure I have ever seen someone fight so hard against something that doesn't apply to them. Keep fightin' that good fight, sir and/or madam!
I would think the mobs would run up to them and kill them.This is happening on PS4-EU 24/7 as well.
driosketch wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »I am just curious. If I will read a book or watch tv, while holding right trigger with my finger, will be I recognized as cheater or bot handler?
Why would you do this? Just play the game.
But, to answer your question, there was a person in here not to long ago that claimed they were playing with their toe while watching Netflix, etc. They were banned for botting, I guess.
This is why I say that it is not how you do it, but what you are doing.
So here is the thing.
Every once in a while, i have a char go to a fire and burn down my excess provisioning mats - where i have over 1000 of recipes (1000 click so 4000 portions) that can be cooked that i dont ever use etc - to get them down to 500 and then sell the products at like what 5g each to the vendor. usually can make tens of thousands but it takes a lot of click-click-click-click.
So i have sat here, clicking, while also watching netflix or google or some other stream.
Even then i thought "someone might think i am a bot cuz i have been standing here for an hour just making the ..."
never been banned. Dont expect to ever be.
but if inattention combined with repetition is cause for punishment, they should really look into a "craft multiple" option built into the main game craft UI without add-ons.
I don't know why people feel the need to lawyer the point. I remember during the bot crisis people would come in here and claim, "I'm not botting, I'm farming. I'm capable of being super percise humanly in my route, and I have chat turned off so I won't see your real person check message."
Your finger would cramp if you held the trigger for 8 hours straight, which is what we are talking about here. It's like 2:1 waiting around vs activity, sometimes longer, why would you shoot at nothing when you could give your finger a break? If you're really there you should be aware enough not to stand in the auto fire clump. Also, aren't you going to want to collect the loot as well?
People AFK in front of the bank or craft stations, all the time, there is no external animation of your actions. To be frank, it's not blatant like a group doing heavy staff attacks at an anchor.
lion9225nub18_ESO wrote: »Bah do not make assumptions that people cannot sit for 8 hours or longer and click the same *** over and over again, I have seen and been clanned with people that did exactly this. It is not for me and I am lucky to make it an entire hour doing that, but people do it I believe it is called poopsocking. anyway only thing worse than cheaters are those sitting around judging everyone without knowing facts and making assumptions just because it is not something they themselves would do.
You can get that for ESO too, followed an add from an online newspaperI've been trying to get people to let the boss at a dolmen spawn without attacking it. It would kill all of them quickly - often they stay dead for three or four cycles of the dolmen.
I halfway suspect that some or many are paying a service to level them. I know this happened in WoW; there were articles about the services in game magazines. The better ones would dual/triple/whatever box them, and keep anything gathered to sell for their gold sales services.
May they burn in Molag Bal's eternal torment.
lion9225nub18_ESO wrote: »driosketch wrote: »lordrichter wrote: »I am just curious. If I will read a book or watch tv, while holding right trigger with my finger, will be I recognized as cheater or bot handler?
Why would you do this? Just play the game.
But, to answer your question, there was a person in here not to long ago that claimed they were playing with their toe while watching Netflix, etc. They were banned for botting, I guess.
This is why I say that it is not how you do it, but what you are doing.
So here is the thing.
Every once in a while, i have a char go to a fire and burn down my excess provisioning mats - where i have over 1000 of recipes (1000 click so 4000 portions) that can be cooked that i dont ever use etc - to get them down to 500 and then sell the products at like what 5g each to the vendor. usually can make tens of thousands but it takes a lot of click-click-click-click.
So i have sat here, clicking, while also watching netflix or google or some other stream.
Even then i thought "someone might think i am a bot cuz i have been standing here for an hour just making the ..."
never been banned. Dont expect to ever be.
but if inattention combined with repetition is cause for punishment, they should really look into a "craft multiple" option built into the main game craft UI without add-ons.
I don't know why people feel the need to lawyer the point. I remember during the bot crisis people would come in here and claim, "I'm not botting, I'm farming. I'm capable of being super percise humanly in my route, and I have chat turned off so I won't see your real person check message."
Your finger would cramp if you held the trigger for 8 hours straight, which is what we are talking about here. It's like 2:1 waiting around vs activity, sometimes longer, why would you shoot at nothing when you could give your finger a break? If you're really there you should be aware enough not to stand in the auto fire clump. Also, aren't you going to want to collect the loot as well?
People AFK in front of the bank or craft stations, all the time, there is no external animation of your actions. To be frank, it's not blatant like a group doing heavy staff attacks at an anchor.
Bah do not make assumptions that people cannot sit for 8 hours or longer and click the same *** over and over again, I have seen and been clanned with people that did exactly this. It is not for me and I am lucky to make it an entire hour doing that, but people do it I believe it is called poopsocking. anyway only thing worse than cheaters are those sitting around judging everyone without knowing facts and making assumptions just because it is not something they themselves would do.
Damn, aren't you full of yourself? And still botting i presume ...i have but then i an a child of the 60s when folks fought alongside others for for those others to have the rights to have greater participation and access and freedoms.
i am NOT equating this to that or what i am doing to what they did - just saying the notion of fighting for/against something that wont help you or which only applies to others is far from new and not unique to me wont end when i am gone.
And thank the gods for that.
if you have never seen this or know this in your own life, i hope someday you get that chance.
starkerealm wrote: »Well, this thread just got linked on Kotaku.