As of right now, 69% are happy.
As I said, the unhappy ones are just way more vocal about it.
I think people are overwhelmingly happy about this announcement. They just are not on the forums creating 100 threads saying the same happy things like the ones not happy are doing.
ESO Plus members, while you are a member you have access to the regions, so different dungeons, additional content, you're going to have access to that.
As of right now, 69% are happy.
As I said, the unhappy ones are just way more vocal about it.
I think people are overwhelmingly happy about this announcement. They just are not on the forums creating 100 threads saying the same happy things like the ones not happy are doing.
lordrichter wrote: »Ourorboros wrote: »I can understand why some aren't impressed at all by this DLC being called an expansion and thus put behind an additional paywall, but I also have perspective.
They gotta make money. I'd much prefer them charge for a proper expansion's array of content rather than push harder on the cash shop but give the expansion away at no extra charge.
They have to make money somewhere.
If only 10% of users sub, zos is making around $10 million/month. Do you really think only 10% sub for the crafting bad? It seems higher than that based on forum polls and group chat. How much does it cost to run this game? I have no experience here. Maybe it does cost more than 120 million a year, but I find that unlikely. Would you change your answer if you knew that zos was laughing all the way to the bank?
Your numbers work out to 666,000 subscritions per month at $15 / month in order to get the $10,000,000 you stated. If that is only 10% of the population in the game, then you believe the game has 6.6 million players?
I think you need to rethink your numbers.
Ignore the 10% number. Just say that there are ~700k subscribers to ESO Plus. We can't know the real answer to that, so it is as good of a guess as any.
Well then my guess of 100,000-200,000 subscribers is just as valid, or just as wrong.
SturgeHammer wrote: »Less happy after reading the road ahead. Yearly paid expansions sound... excessive, but I'll probably end up buying them anyway (probably in the collectors edition too).
Kingbawsack wrote: »Can somebody kindly clear this up for me.
How big is this expansion supposed to be. What I mean by that, is it just a one off thing like orsinium with a short story line, a dungeon or 2 and some new craftsble sets and some world bosses. Or is it more likely to be something huge? As in a whole new world type thing with hundreds to do.
Ps I didn't play Morrowind originally
Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »I and my wife both subscribe on our ESO accounts, and we've already pre-ordered our digital copies/upgrades for ESO: Morrowind.
Now, I'm not going to delve into the huge argument about whether subscriber should get this Expansion for free or not. It's pretty clear from the amount of content that's going to be in Morrowind, that this is far more than the DLC we've received so far.
Indeed, if Firor and Pete were serious when they claimed that they pretty much took ES3 Morrowind base-game, scaled it to ESO dimensions, then stuck it into the ESO game world; then this will truly be an Expansion as it will be like buying an entirely new game within another game.That in itself is worth $40 for me.
But it seems pretty damn clear, by looking at the amount of content in say... Orsinuim/Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood, then comparing that to what they claim is going to be in Morrowind; it should be obvious what the difference is between a DLC and an Expansion.
Why all of the sudden are we NOW questioning and splitting hairs about the (very obvious) differences between a DLC and an Expansion? Oh, I know why; because people want every damn thing for free.
***... I got dragged into the argument... I digress.
As I said at the top of this post, my wife and I both sub on our accounts. We get all of the DLC for free, but we still spend our Crowns to actually purchase the DLC, because who knows what minor calamity might cause us to have to cancel our subs, and we'd still love to be able to play that DLC content.
But we've also been playing MMO's for decades. We're used to getting free DLC, but having to pay for Expansions, even in subscription-model MMORPG's. It's the nature of the beast. Companies don't mind giving out free smaller DLC packs, but the more content there is, the more it costs to create.
So getting the smaller DLC for free, but having to pay for (what is obviously) a much larger, content-rich Expansion, that strikes us as quite reasonable.
So yeah; I sub two accounts, I still buy every DLC "just in case" for two accounts, and I have no problem buying two digital upgrades for Morrowind.
It's well worth it, and normal, IMO.
Or, you could re-read what I wrote, and realize that the amount of content they claim is in Morrowind would roughly equal Orsinium + TG + DB, and still have more content after that.Jimbullbee85 wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »I and my wife both subscribe on our ESO accounts, and we've already pre-ordered our digital copies/upgrades for ESO: Morrowind.
Now, I'm not going to delve into the huge argument about whether subscriber should get this Expansion for free or not. It's pretty clear from the amount of content that's going to be in Morrowind, that this is far more than the DLC we've received so far.
Indeed, if Firor and Pete were serious when they claimed that they pretty much took ES3 Morrowind base-game, scaled it to ESO dimensions, then stuck it into the ESO game world; then this will truly be an Expansion as it will be like buying an entirely new game within another game.That in itself is worth $40 for me.
But it seems pretty damn clear, by looking at the amount of content in say... Orsinuim/Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood, then comparing that to what they claim is going to be in Morrowind; it should be obvious what the difference is between a DLC and an Expansion.
Why all of the sudden are we NOW questioning and splitting hairs about the (very obvious) differences between a DLC and an Expansion? Oh, I know why; because people want every damn thing for free.
***... I got dragged into the argument... I digress.
As I said at the top of this post, my wife and I both sub on our accounts. We get all of the DLC for free, but we still spend our Crowns to actually purchase the DLC, because who knows what minor calamity might cause us to have to cancel our subs, and we'd still love to be able to play that DLC content.
But we've also been playing MMO's for decades. We're used to getting free DLC, but having to pay for Expansions, even in subscription-model MMORPG's. It's the nature of the beast. Companies don't mind giving out free smaller DLC packs, but the more content there is, the more it costs to create.
So getting the smaller DLC for free, but having to pay for (what is obviously) a much larger, content-rich Expansion, that strikes us as quite reasonable.
So yeah; I sub two accounts, I still buy every DLC "just in case" for two accounts, and I have no problem buying two digital upgrades for Morrowind.
It's well worth it, and normal, IMO.
The difference between a dlc and an expansion is based on their track record IMO. If you add thieves guild to dark Brotherhood theres not much difference in size to Orsinium when you combine the two. Then there is the petty excuse of shadows of the hist after that. Is there no justification to be worried about how much content we'll recieve from the Morrowind expantion when you consider ZOS's track record on recent dlc content and their complete disregardence to subs since the crafting bag?
Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »Or, you could re-read what I wrote, and realize that the amount of content they claim is in Morrowind would roughly equal Orsinium + TG + DB, and still have more content after that.Jimbullbee85 wrote: »Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »I and my wife both subscribe on our ESO accounts, and we've already pre-ordered our digital copies/upgrades for ESO: Morrowind.
Now, I'm not going to delve into the huge argument about whether subscriber should get this Expansion for free or not. It's pretty clear from the amount of content that's going to be in Morrowind, that this is far more than the DLC we've received so far.
Indeed, if Firor and Pete were serious when they claimed that they pretty much took ES3 Morrowind base-game, scaled it to ESO dimensions, then stuck it into the ESO game world; then this will truly be an Expansion as it will be like buying an entirely new game within another game.That in itself is worth $40 for me.
But it seems pretty damn clear, by looking at the amount of content in say... Orsinuim/Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood, then comparing that to what they claim is going to be in Morrowind; it should be obvious what the difference is between a DLC and an Expansion.
Why all of the sudden are we NOW questioning and splitting hairs about the (very obvious) differences between a DLC and an Expansion? Oh, I know why; because people want every damn thing for free.
***... I got dragged into the argument... I digress.
As I said at the top of this post, my wife and I both sub on our accounts. We get all of the DLC for free, but we still spend our Crowns to actually purchase the DLC, because who knows what minor calamity might cause us to have to cancel our subs, and we'd still love to be able to play that DLC content.
But we've also been playing MMO's for decades. We're used to getting free DLC, but having to pay for Expansions, even in subscription-model MMORPG's. It's the nature of the beast. Companies don't mind giving out free smaller DLC packs, but the more content there is, the more it costs to create.
So getting the smaller DLC for free, but having to pay for (what is obviously) a much larger, content-rich Expansion, that strikes us as quite reasonable.
So yeah; I sub two accounts, I still buy every DLC "just in case" for two accounts, and I have no problem buying two digital upgrades for Morrowind.
It's well worth it, and normal, IMO.
The difference between a dlc and an expansion is based on their track record IMO. If you add thieves guild to dark Brotherhood theres not much difference in size to Orsinium when you combine the two. Then there is the petty excuse of shadows of the hist after that. Is there no justification to be worried about how much content we'll recieve from the Morrowind expantion when you consider ZOS's track record on recent dlc content and their complete disregardence to subs since the crafting bag?
That's a good definition of an Expansion to me vs. what a regular DLC would be.
SturgeHammer wrote: »Less happy after reading the road ahead. Yearly paid expansions sound... excessive, but I'll probably end up buying them anyway (probably in the collectors edition too).
KhajitFurTrader wrote: »Two words: Cliff Racers!