Do you think mobs should have crit, and crit resistance?

Madness1

Hi all, now I'm asking this because around every patch I see people complaining about balance between PVP and PVE. Now after playing a lot of both sides of content I though about adding crit chance and resistance to NPCs the player goes up against. This seems like this would help balance things out a little. So what do you all think of this?

Turelus

I don't know.

I don't know really.

Part of me thinks this would be great as it makes impenetrable trait worthwhile outside of PvP, adds some challenge and makes the game feel more random/dynamic.

The other side of me know how annoying critical hits can be when you're working for scores or rankings, to have great progress ruined by no fault of you own but because "Natural 20" wrecks you.

ADarklore

No, keep it as it is.

Why on earth would you now want players to have to run around in impenetrable in PvE? Oh wait, let me guess, you're a PvP player and you don't want to run two sets of gear.

Liofa

No, keep it as it is.

Yay ! Even more RNG !

*equips Iceheart and rolls magicka sorcerer*

Wollust

Sweetroll.

I think bosses should have some sort of crit resistance. But definitely not crit multipliers to their damage. That would be awful to balance and it would involve too much RNG.

Erasure

No, keep it as it is.

Can you imagine the situation in vAA? 4-5 Axes all get a lucky crit at once, and no spec on Nirn can save you.

Siliziumdioxid

No, keep it as it is.

on Crit Resistance: the only thing it would do is it would alter the build you run in favor for less crit. It wouldn't change the way you deal damage in any way. I don't like to craft or farm new sets so No.

on Crit Damage: PvE is alot about evaluating the potency of some enemies, learning the mechanics, and come up with appropriate counterplay knowing their behavior.

For me it is more preferable to have enemies with high predictable damage output than enemies with medium output that can potentially kill you on random mechanics. First thing is something you can manage through learning second leaves no counterplay.

maltinkilic

Yes, mobs should crit.

A variaty on mobs should be nice. Crits would be nice also. I am not saying that they should have all divine gear with thief stone crit but ~10-20% crit chance would be ok. Also there are four types of mobs in whole game ones with ~10k health(small volves in packs) ones with ~30k health(90% of game content) ones with ~40k health and rarely the ones with ~100k health(trolls etc) why not change that a bit also. In all my fight i use the same set of skill on same kind of mobs. It becomes boring after a point. Another point all the world bosses has 1.8m life. Seriously? Are they manufactured in the same production line with different labels? Come on give is some variaty. Make some mobs more resistant to physical damage, make some of them resiatant to magic or different elements. It doesnt hurt me to try new things.

ADarklore

No, keep it as it is.

maltinkilic wrote: »

A variaty on mobs should be nice. Crits would be nice also. I am not saying that they should have all divine gear with thief stone crit but ~10-20% crit chance would be ok. Also there are four types of mobs in whole game ones with ~10k health(small volves in packs) ones with ~30k health(90% of game content) ones with ~40k health and rarely the ones with ~100k health(trolls etc) why not change that a bit also. In all my fight i use the same set of skill on same kind of mobs. It becomes boring after a point. Another point all the world bosses has 1.8m life. Seriously? Are they manufactured in the same production line with different labels? Come on give is some variaty. Make some mobs more resistant to physical damage, make some of them resiatant to magic or different elements. It doesnt hurt me to try new things.

I'm glad you are only speaking for yourself, but you do realize that these changes would impact MILLIONS of players, and not every player, most in fact, do not like 'new things' like this. Most players want to play the content, the storyline, they want to progress, they don't want serious challenge and stress when they try to relax and play a game... if they wanted all that drama they'd PvP.

Taylor_MB

No, keep it as it is.

Variable mechanics are good, but having the same attack from a npc do variable damage just seems like a cruel added rng.

Taylor_MB

No, keep it as it is.

ADarklore wrote: »

Why on earth would you now want players to have to run around in impenetrable in PvE? Oh wait, let me guess, you're a PvP player and you don't want to run two sets of gear.

ADarklore wrote: »

maltinkilic wrote: »

A variaty on mobs should be nice. Crits would be nice also. I am not saying that they should have all divine gear with thief stone crit but ~10-20% crit chance would be ok. Also there are four types of mobs in whole game ones with ~10k health(small volves in packs) ones with ~30k health(90% of game content) ones with ~40k health and rarely the ones with ~100k health(trolls etc) why not change that a bit also. In all my fight i use the same set of skill on same kind of mobs. It becomes boring after a point. Another point all the world bosses has 1.8m life. Seriously? Are they manufactured in the same production line with different labels? Come on give is some variaty. Make some mobs more resistant to physical damage, make some of them resiatant to magic or different elements. It doesnt hurt me to try new things.

I'm glad you are only speaking for yourself, but you do realize that these changes would impact MILLIONS of players, and not every player, most in fact, do not like 'new things' like this. Most players want to play the content, the storyline, they want to progress, they don't want serious challenge and stress when they try to relax and play a game... if they wanted all that drama they'd PvP.

Dude you need to chill out. You can still disagree and criticize in a polite and constructive manner. You might have been better off picking the sweetroll option.

ADarklore

No, keep it as it is.

Taylor_MB wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Why on earth would you now want players to have to run around in impenetrable in PvE? Oh wait, let me guess, you're a PvP player and you don't want to run two sets of gear.

ADarklore wrote: »

maltinkilic wrote: »

A variaty on mobs should be nice. Crits would be nice also. I am not saying that they should have all divine gear with thief stone crit but ~10-20% crit chance would be ok. Also there are four types of mobs in whole game ones with ~10k health(small volves in packs) ones with ~30k health(90% of game content) ones with ~40k health and rarely the ones with ~100k health(trolls etc) why not change that a bit also. In all my fight i use the same set of skill on same kind of mobs. It becomes boring after a point. Another point all the world bosses has 1.8m life. Seriously? Are they manufactured in the same production line with different labels? Come on give is some variaty. Make some mobs more resistant to physical damage, make some of them resiatant to magic or different elements. It doesnt hurt me to try new things.

I'm glad you are only speaking for yourself, but you do realize that these changes would impact MILLIONS of players, and not every player, most in fact, do not like 'new things' like this. Most players want to play the content, the storyline, they want to progress, they don't want serious challenge and stress when they try to relax and play a game... if they wanted all that drama they'd PvP.

Dude you need to chill out. You can still disagree and criticize in a polite and constructive manner. You might have been better off picking the sweetroll option.

Oh, but that was me being polite.

danno8

No, keep it as it is.

Pretty sure that would break parts of the game. Not overland content of course (well maybe world bosses), but certainly places like vMSA would become extremely difficult for certain classes to complete. Not everyone has 25k class shields to fall back on to absorb such crits.

Templar, for example, strengths are in healing, which means they have to take damage to use that healing. It won't work if the damage that they have to take are a whole lot of potential one shots.

The damage that enemies dish out in those particular places would have to be toned down to compensate for RNG variability making one wonder what the point is.

starkerealm

No, keep it as it is.

The only way this would be a good idea is if it was part of a massive overhaul of the combat mechanics. There's nothing inherently wrong with NPCs and mobs being able to crit. But, as it is, ESO just isn't designed for non-player crits.

Bigevilpeter

No, keep it as it is.

to make sharpened even more of a must and making precise completely useless

Wing

Yes, mobs should crit.

yup.

drop base mob damage a little bit, so base damage is lower, add in the ability for mobs to crit at varying percentages, this keeps average damage the same, but adds in the little bit of spikey gameplay.

also it would make impen worth ANYTHING AT ALL in PvE content.

I would also add that mob bosses should have varying amounts of impen as well. lower base health a bit but give them slight impen, average time to kill remains the same but yada yada you get the point.

idk

No, keep it as it is.

@madness. Bad idea. Would make every armor trait in the game trash other than inpen.

Also, PvP is already about randomness and PvE is not. Bosses can hit for more than players and wdd My crit chance would just be bad and poor design.

Ladislao

No, keep it as it is.

I guess everybody forgot about start of ESO when mobs had crits? You could ruin every pve content in the game just cause random critical strike. Do you want to roll vmsa/vdsa/vTrialHM due tocrits?

NewBlacksmurf

No, keep it as it is.

No

Man I think many are still trying to figure out if this is a traditional MMO or TES online game

Ppl start using light and heavy attacks

lolo_01b16_ESO

Sweetroll.

Crit resistance on some npcs could be nice. I'd generally like to see more variety in enemy resistances. That way different builds would be strong against different enemies.

However crit damage would especially on bosses a bad idea in my opinion. In general you want to have a bit more hp than the highest hit. If bosses could do crit damage you would have to decide: Do you want to die when the boss does crit damage or do you want to play with 50-100% higher hp (depending on crit modifyer) and loose a lot of stamina / magicka.

robertthebard

Yes, mobs should crit.

Why isn't this a thing already? It would serve to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Ghost-Shot

No, keep it as it is.

I'm fine with crit resist being a pvp stat, gives a good point of reference for pvp itemization when they finally move on from the rng bag crap.