Emperorship Corrupt

Vash747

Emperorship has become a monopoly for a select few per campaign who stop at nothing to retain, you all know it is true so don't bother denying it. If you want emperor, you have to buy it. The integrity of the game and the achievement is gone, just a hollow title now. I feel to undo the scam and sham of Emperorship is to make it attainable only once per player, after that a player still gets rank rewards worthy of their position, but are ineligible for emperor. Otherwise prepare to either pay for it, or forget about trying.

KisoValley

What?

White wabbit

Emperor is just who doesn't actually have to work

Humphie

Console players...

Turelus

Good to see ESO/Forums hasn't changed at all in my time off.

bikerangelo

Why did you think a political monarchy wouldn't be corrupt and require an extensive amount of invested time??

omfgitsbatman

Lmao you act as though buying emperorships is a new phenomenon..... I recall campaigns where emp would change hands every 30 minutes

Vash747

I'm not surprised, I've seen it for a long time, just because it's been that way for so long doesn't make it right does it?

Vash747

It isn't a political monarchy, it's exploitation of a poorly constructed system

Cadbury

- Gets popcorn -

Okay. Proceed.

Paneross

Multi faction guilds take turns boosting members to Emperor by seniority or to "girls" who send nudes to higher ranked guildies.

Vash747

Cadbury wrote: »

- Gets popcorn -

Okay. Proceed.

This is what's wrong with the community and game

Serjustin19

So. Um. I want to say. How do I put this. I'm on Scourge PS4 EU. There are claims from both DC and AD. Saying that my alliance (EP) forces other alliances. To and must pay for Emperorship if other alliances want emperor.

I been currently serving AD for 1 year and 1 month. Trying help out balance wise. But even though others claim my alliance does this. I don't believe it. No offense. Thank you

I am also very broke. I don't want your money to. Thanks for offering. But I pass.

Vash747

I'm ep and we have ep telling us we have to pay for it. I have no doubt they charge other alliances for it. Xbox1

Taylor_MB

Vash747 wrote: »

Emperorship has become a monopoly for a select few per campaign who stop at nothing to retain

One you get Emp it is easier to retain the AP lead and it's fun as ***, so if RL permits you the time why would you not try and hold onto it for the campaign cycle?

Vash747 wrote: »

you all know it is true so don't bother denying it.

What's the point of posting a topic if you are not permitting dissenting opinions? You just want everyone to pat you on the back and say "oh my god you are so wise"?

Vash747 wrote: »

If you want emperor, you have to buy it.

So ridiculously untrue, why buy it when you can just nightcap it?

Vash747 wrote: »

The integrity of the game and the achievement is gone, just a hollow title now.

Somewhat true, lets examine how you propose to change that...

Vash747 wrote: »

I feel to undo the scam and sham of Emperorship is to make it attainable only once per player, after that a player still gets rank rewards worthy of their position, but are ineligible for emperor.

Oh.... so to make it less hollow you propose to give it to even more people (multiple dethroning and thronings will result in a new Emp every single time). What would be super hollow is only holding Emp for a few hours before you have to log off and needing to start a new character to get it again. What about first time Emps, you expect them to know how to rebuild their toon for Emp when they've never experienced anything like that before?

Vash747 wrote: »

Otherwise prepare to either pay for it, or forget about trying.

Why pay when you can nightcap it?

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I'd be really interested to know what prompted this post from you, did you have #1 for a brief time at the start of a campaign and are raging that your alliance could not immediately Emp you therefore conspiracy? On the most populated servers it takes large scale coordination to Emp, which requires significant effort people are not always willing to go to, I do understand how this can be seen as a plot against you, but chances are it is not. I've only once seen a faction not push for their #1, all other times it doesn't matter if they were in a main guild or not, as long as they are not *** in zone chat the faction will push them.

montiferus

Vash747 wrote: »

I'm ep and we have ep telling us we have to pay for it. I have no doubt they charge other alliances for it. Xbox1

What campaign are you running on Xbox? Haddy?

I have noticed lately some suspicious things happening but I have no concrete proof.

zuto40

Paneross wrote: »

Multi faction guilds take turns boosting members to Emperor by seniority or to "girls" who send nudes to higher ranked guildies.

pics or it didnt happen

NBrookus

Vash747 wrote: »

The integrity of the game and the achievement is gone, just a hollow title now.

Then why are you worried about it?

Taylor_MB wrote: »

What about first time Emps, you expect them to know how to rebuild their toon for Emp when they've never experienced anything like that before?

This. I want to go for emp again one day, mostly because I was woefully underprepared despite trying hard to prepare... and I didn't know it until I experienced it.

IxSTALKERxI

Play on a competitive campaign and be competitive. If anything you are saying was to have truth behind it, it would only happen on a dead campaign.

Publius_Scipio

For a long time emperorship has been reserved for guilds who pass it around between their members. A year or two ago Sypher attempted it on his stream and failed because there were elves in the campaign on his own alliance had it out for him.

You need time, AP rank, and all the keeps required. And it is so much easier when you have a group of people carrying you to the throne.

That's probably why many don't care about being emperor nor care who else is emperor. Personally I only cared about the campaign win, which doesn't require emperor.

Rohamad_Ali

Instead of complaining maybe get in with the right people if you want to be Emperor and show them you will do good at it . Not all the guilds are about money .

KisoValley

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

For a long time emperorship has been reserved for guilds who pass it around between their members. A year or two ago Sypher attempted it on his stream and failed because there were elves in the campaign on his own alliance had it out for him.

You need time, AP rank, and all the keeps required. And it is so much easier when you have a group of people carrying you to the throne.

That's probably why many don't care about being emperor nor care who else is emperor. Personally I only cared about the campaign win, which doesn't require emperor.

I feel like that's a PC NA thing. Different emp over on EU on all factions every campaign. Of course, there are the same names near the top, Kas for example is always top 3, although he will probably drop out now that he has got GO on his NB, but I'm seeing a lot of different names at the top and near the top every campaign on TF/Azura.

Buff campaigns are different though lol.

kevlarto_ESO

Vash747 wrote: »

Emperorship has become a monopoly for a select few per campaign who stop at nothing to retain, you all know it is true so don't bother denying it. If you want emperor, you have to buy it. The integrity of the game and the achievement is gone, just a hollow title now. I feel to undo the scam and sham of Emperorship is to make it attainable only once per player, after that a player still gets rank rewards worthy of their position, but are ineligible for emperor. Otherwise prepare to either pay for it, or forget about trying.

Yea emp has been a joke for along time, swapping and exploiting has really made it something that zos should get rid of, and those folks that got it legit gratz to you, to bad anything like this is always ruined by cheating exploiting players, which this game is full of

Turelus

If you're good enough and free enough to compete for the no. 1 place then there isn't really a way someone can force you to buy it. Eventually they will be dethroned and you'll be crowned next time your faction takes control.

The issue doesn't fall with people stopping others from getting it, but with how the points for it are earned. The system is entirely in the favour of those who can play more and not on who actually has done more for the faction (which more time invested could be considered as).

However I've yet to see a better system come up where people won't abuse/play it. There are plenty of campaigns to play on and I doubt the XB1 EP community has a monopoly on them all.

Vash747

What started this post for me, I have a guildmates going for emperor. I don't have the time for it myself, but go in and try to help when I'm on. He is the number 3 spot. Number 1 and 2 have boosted themselves high enough and have enough guild behind them he won't pass them. Having spent so much time in he knows when the 1 and 2 are off. Some enemy players came in and started flipping a keep so we diced to wait and let them flip then between 3 of us we felt we could flip it back and at least crown him for a night. Some of number 1s guild came on and defended. Ok, that's fine, but then started accusing my guildmates who hasn't boosted of cheating and working with the enemy alliances.
The next afternoon the same thing happened. We don't boost but are getting accused of cheating by our own alliance. They said it was their campaign, if we wanted emperor it was 250k for each of us there. We said screw you of course and my guildmate is continuing to work at it for the too then rewards if nothing else.
We don't have the guildpower to push back on it, but to me, when you encounter such well crappy behavior from your own alliance who still call him a cheat and are still boosting, it's kind of angering.

Turelus

Vash747 wrote: »

What started this post for me, I have a guildmates going for emperor. I don't have the time for it myself, but go in and try to help when I'm on. He is the number 3 spot. Number 1 and 2 have boosted themselves high enough and have enough guild behind them he won't pass them. Having spent so much time in he knows when the 1 and 2 are off. Some enemy players came in and started flipping a keep so we diced to wait and let them flip then between 3 of us we felt we could flip it back and at least crown him for a night. Some of number 1s guild came on and defended. Ok, that's fine, but then started accusing my guildmates who hasn't boosted of cheating and working with the enemy alliances.
The next afternoon the same thing happened. We don't boost but are getting accused of cheating by our own alliance. They said it was their campaign, if we wanted emperor it was 250k for each of us there. We said screw you of course and my guildmate is continuing to work at it for the too then rewards if nothing else.
We don't have the guildpower to push back on it, but to me, when you encounter such well crappy behavior from your own alliance who still call him a cheat and are still boosting, it's kind of angering.

1. Do you have proof they are boosting* (as in actually watched them do it) or are you asuming they do because they have high points.
If they are boosting and you have seen them, film it and send it to ZOS to take a look at, they can sometimes intervene in this because it's "against the spirit of Cyrodiil" as they have said in the past.
If you haven't seen them doing it then find out how they're getting points fast. Good players who know all the current meta and mechanics who play in small teams can make massive point gains in Cyrodiil.

2. Wait for the campaign to reset and everyone will be able to do the Emperor rush again, this will put them on the back on even footing at the start of the campaign. Also be aware of ways to make the players you want to be Emperor gain the most points (give def ticks to them alone, have them hold quests hand ins for the reset etc.)

3. Move campaign. If you don't like your allies on the one you're playing on or don't feel you can compete for Emperorship there move to another campaign where you have better luck.

* Edit
To be clear by boosting I mean trading kills/AP with other factions to keep scores up. If they're simply working to ensure their member/emperor has more points via methods I mentioned in point 2 there is nothing wrong with this and it's part of the social benefits of being in a larger or more organised guild.

Valencer

Sounds like someone went for emp in a dead campaign and got outfarmed.

Maybe they should just disable emp in campaigns that have low to nonexistent population, so this pointless achievement/title/dye/costume farming stops.

Lexxypwns

Yeah, there's always been emperors who didn't conduct themselves in ways people liked. Be it boosting, night capping, farming AP instead of playing the map, repairing, your guild group leaving you to get ticks alone, etc. ZoS has never done anything about it and they never should.

Ultimately, getting emp is irrelevant, its a nice experience but its probably not worth the sleep deprivation or drama involved in getting it anyway man. If anything, be happy that these people are saving you the trouble of sleepless nights farming AP and defending emp keeps against an inevitable zerg or night cap that you can't stop because flags are force flipped or flipped at 4:30 AM when you and your group have all passed out.