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Can we have a Pve version of skill abilities from the Alliance War Skills?
raidentenshu_ESO
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Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Fine by me . I'm a PvP player and I don't think anyone should be forced in there to get anything except emperorship . Also I'd like a trial gear to drop in Cyrodiil so I don't need to PVE . -
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✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
Sure, and then I want to earn undaunted/fighter and mage guild skills by PvP'ing instead of running dungeons and finding books.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible." -
William_21✭✭This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
Sometimes, you take the route you don't enjoy because you know it'll lead you to the destination you desire.Edited by William_21 on December 22, 2016 7:07AMMy CharsLegate WilliamThe Flawless Conqueror - Khajiit StamDK - 53.9k DPS(Twice-Born Star, Vicious Ophidian, Kra'gh, x2 Sharpened Maelstrom Daggers, Precise Maelstrom Bow)Vile's SolThe Flawless Conqueror - Redguard StambladeSecond HeartbeatThe Flawless Conqueror - Imperial StamDK Tank(Tavon, Ebon, Bloodspawn)Dark AnnihilatorThe Flawless Conqueror - Khajiit StambladeLachandra RushThe Flawless Conqueror - Redguard StamplarDario LightningclawThe Flawless Conqueror - Khajiit StamsorcStormbringer SyraThe Flawless Conqueror - High Elf MagsorcAuri-El's LightThe Flawless Conqueror - Dark Elf MagplarSaxhleel OracleThe Flawless Conqueror - Argonian Magplar Healer(Spell Power Cure, Infallible Aether, Worm Cult, Precise Maelstrom Restoration Staff) -
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✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
Sure, and then I want to earn undaunted/fighter and mage guild skills by PvP'ing instead of running dungeons and finding books.
What would be an equivalent to obtain undaunted/fighters and mages guild skills through pvping? What would you do differently to earn them in Cyrodiil without going into a PVE dungeon and finding books? -
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✭✭William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.Edited by raidentenshu_ESO on December 22, 2016 7:13AM -
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✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
Sure, and then I want to earn undaunted/fighter and mage guild skills by PvP'ing instead of running dungeons and finding books.
What would be an equivalent to obtain undaunted/fighters and mages guild skills through pvping? What would you do differently to earn them in Cyrodiil without going into a PVE dungeon and finding books?
Crush my enemies. See them driven before me. Hear the lamentations of their women٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible." -
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✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible." -
FoolishHuman✭✭✭✭✭It would be beter to leave these skills alone and make one of the fighter's guild skills into a seperate stamina self-heal. Doubtful that it will happen though, I think ZOS is under the impression that putting a needed skill into PvP makes PvP better because there are more people or something. Or that people will get interested if only they were forced to try it out. I don't believe in it. -
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✭✭✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Unfortunately you won't be able too because if you want pvp skills you have to pvp.
Just like the pvp'ers have to bother with pve:
- levelling a character to 50
- getting skill lines to 50
- getting enough skill points from quests and skyshards
- getting fighters guild to 10
- mages guild to 10
- morphing all the skills
- undaunted to 9
- Farming sets from RNG dungeons
- Farming sets from RNG drops in open pve
- Levelling ww/vamp, including actually get ww/vamp.
- Farming undaunted for monster sets
- Farming msa for weapons / sets
- Farming DSA for weapons
- Farming trials for sets
As you can see all you pve'ers have to do to unlock vigor, which is what i'm guessing you want to do , is to get 86k ap which is like 2-3 hours worth of pvping. I'm sure you can suck it up and handle it.
Be gratful vigor used to be harder to get because it's such a useful skill but because of the crying of pve'er it's not a 2-3 hour job and maxing the alliance war skill lines which used to take million of ap can easily be done in a day now. Goobye pvp progression.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters... -
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✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
You see here... I as a PVer don't give a skeever damn about the current war in Cyrodiil. I don't just PVE but also do a self RP. My toons simply don't give a damn what 3 idiotic factions do.... In fact my toons prefer that all 3 factions go dig a deep hole somewhere in Cyrodiil, and let them all kill each other until theirs non left. All 3 leaders from each factions are nothing but clowns
Zos would have to bend over backwards by giving us playable Daedra race (To fight for Molag bal) to actually convince me to step foot inside Cyrodiil...
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✭✭✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
You see here... I as a PVer don't give a skeever damn about the current war in Cyrodiil. I don't just PVE but also do a self RP. My toons simply don't give a damn what 3 idiotic factions do.... In fact my toons prefer that all 3 factions go dig a deep hole somewhere in Cyrodiil, and let them all kill each other until theirs non left. All 3 leaders from each factions are nothing but clowns
Zos would have to bend over backwards by giving us playable Daedra race (To fight for Molag bal) to actually convince me to step foot inside Cyrodiil...
Well, that means no Vigor for you then. Don't worry. My new alt will spam it for the glory of the Daggerfall Covenant.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible." -
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✭raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
You see here... I as a PVer don't give a skeever damn about the current war in Cyrodiil. I don't just PVE but also do a self RP. My toons simply don't give a damn what 3 idiotic factions do.... In fact my toons prefer that all 3 factions go dig a deep hole somewhere in Cyrodiil, and let them all kill each other until theirs non left. All 3 leaders from each factions are nothing but clowns
Zos would have to bend over backwards by giving us playable Daedra race (To fight for Molag bal) to actually convince me to step foot inside Cyrodiil...
well as a PvPer i dont give a skeever damn that you want alliance war skills while not participating in the ALLIANCE WAR...Vyr Cor | Magicka Dragonknight | DC
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✭I think removing the necessity for them in PvE would be a better move, either by adding skills that can fill similar roles to abilities like vigor or war horn, or making some existing ones actually usefulEdited by Browiseth on December 22, 2016 7:50AMi stream eso here
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before you make that post, ask yourself; "am i being a contrarian for the sake of it?"
morrowind is not a good game but the expansion will probably be okay nvm lol
subjectivity is implied
characters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian stamsorc - lvl 50 (main)
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer magdk - lvl 50 (secondary main)
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Bosmer stamden healer - lvl 50 (based on my Dragon Age: Inquisition character)
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian sorc healer - lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian magcro - lvl 50 (meh)
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc stamdk - lvl 50 (Inspired by Sinh the Slumbering Dragon from Dark Souls 2)
- EP - M - Star-of-Arcane - Argonian magplar - lvl 15
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton magblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamplar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necrotank - lvl 5
- EP - F - Avaricious Akashi - Khajiit Stamden - lvl 5 (loosely based on Akashi from Azur Lane)
ingame ID: PLAYEP.Q -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think removing the necessity for them in PvE would be a better move, either by adding skills that can fill similar roles to abilities like vigor or war horn, or making some existing ones actually useful
That's why they have the healer role in PvE so they don't need Vigor. Vigor didn't even exist in the beginning of the game and many players, me included, finished all the content back then, which was even harder then, without Vigor.
Edited by Knootewoot on December 22, 2016 7:55AM٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible." -
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✭Knootewoot wrote: »I think removing the necessity for them in PvE would be a better move, either by adding skills that can fill similar roles to abilities like vigor or war horn, or making some existing ones actually useful
That's why they have the healer role in PvE so they don't need Vigor. Vigor didn't even exist in the beginning of the game and many players, me included, finished all the content back then without Vigor.
The game is also very different now. Vigor is required (or at least borderline required) on pretty much any stamina build that isn't sorc for VMA
plus have you played this game in dungeons with randoms lately? you can not rely on any healers to keep you alive, let's be honest with ourselves
war horn's also required for tanks in trials, and earns you major brownie points in dungeons
also, you say that you managed without vigor back then, but no one played a full stamina build back then, did they? game also worked very differently, and you could be a hybrid and use magicka for healzEdited by Browiseth on December 22, 2016 8:03AMi stream eso here
join the BUFF ARGONIAN ARMY today!!!!!
before you make that post, ask yourself; "am i being a contrarian for the sake of it?"
morrowind is not a good game but the expansion will probably be okay nvm lol
subjectivity is implied
characters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian stamsorc - lvl 50 (main)
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer magdk - lvl 50 (secondary main)
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Bosmer stamden healer - lvl 50 (based on my Dragon Age: Inquisition character)
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian sorc healer - lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian magcro - lvl 50 (meh)
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc stamdk - lvl 50 (Inspired by Sinh the Slumbering Dragon from Dark Souls 2)
- EP - M - Star-of-Arcane - Argonian magplar - lvl 15
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton magblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamplar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necrotank - lvl 5
- EP - F - Avaricious Akashi - Khajiit Stamden - lvl 5 (loosely based on Akashi from Azur Lane)
ingame ID: PLAYEP.Q -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭war horn's also required for tanks in trials, and earns you major brownie points in dungeons
hehe brownie points
Well, then if it's necessary he better gear up and join the army. If he fights hard and don't slack he will have his skill within 3 hours.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible." -
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✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
You see here... I as a PVer don't give a skeever damn about the current war in Cyrodiil. I don't just PVE but also do a self RP. My toons simply don't give a damn what 3 idiotic factions do.... In fact my toons prefer that all 3 factions go dig a deep hole somewhere in Cyrodiil, and let them all kill each other until theirs non left. All 3 leaders from each factions are nothing but clowns
Zos would have to bend over backwards by giving us playable Daedra race (To fight for Molag bal) to actually convince me to step foot inside Cyrodiil...
Well, that means no Vigor for you then. Don't worry. My new alt will spam it for the glory of the Daggerfall Covenant.
A good Daggerfall Covenant solider is a Soul shriven serving their Lord of Brutality
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✭Knootewoot wrote: »
I don't think the "deal with it" argument is a very good one, to be honesti stream eso here
join the BUFF ARGONIAN ARMY today!!!!!
before you make that post, ask yourself; "am i being a contrarian for the sake of it?"
morrowind is not a good game but the expansion will probably be okay nvm lol
subjectivity is implied
characters:PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe- EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian stamsorc - lvl 50 (main)
- EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer magdk - lvl 50 (secondary main)
- EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Bosmer stamden healer - lvl 50 (based on my Dragon Age: Inquisition character)
- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian sorc healer - lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian magcro - lvl 50 (meh)
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc stamdk - lvl 50 (Inspired by Sinh the Slumbering Dragon from Dark Souls 2)
- EP - M - Star-of-Arcane - Argonian magplar - lvl 15
- EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton magblade - lvl 50
- EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamplar - lvl 50
- EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necrotank - lvl 5
- EP - F - Avaricious Akashi - Khajiit Stamden - lvl 5 (loosely based on Akashi from Azur Lane)
ingame ID: PLAYEP.Q -
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✭✭✭✭Hurr Durr I don't want to spend 5-10h in PvP to get all I need because someone will kill me and sit on my face and I will feel violated and muh freedums man.
On the other hand it is pretty normal that PvPers need to grind undaunted skill line for like a month.
Makes perfect sense.
Please guys, I bag you to understand, dying is a part of game, both in PvE and in PvP. And you can farm everything pretty fast. Join PvP, get in Trueflame and who knows, maybe you will like it, maybe you will even learn something. Maybe you will hate it but no matter what, you will get your caltrops, vigor, agressive horn, guard or whatever you desire for PvE.
You get killed-rage. You get zerged-rage. You get ganked-rage. But the feel of accomplishment when you earn skills you like - absolutely priceless. -
Tempah✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Unfortunately you won't be able too because if you want pvp skills you have to pvp.
Just like the pvp'ers have to bother with pve:
- levelling a character to 50
- getting skill lines to 50
- getting enough skill points from quests and skyshards
- getting fighters guild to 10
- mages guild to 10
- morphing all the skills
- undaunted to 9
- Farming sets from RNG dungeons
- Farming sets from RNG drops in open pve
- Levelling ww/vamp, including actually get ww/vamp.
- Farming undaunted for monster sets
- Farming msa for weapons / sets
- Farming DSA for weapons
- Farming trials for sets
As you can see all you pve'ers have to do to unlock vigor, which is what i'm guessing you want to do , is to get 86k ap which is like 2-3 hours worth of pvping. I'm sure you can suck it up and handle it.
Be gratful vigor used to be harder to get because it's such a useful skill but because of the crying of pve'er it's not a 2-3 hour job and maxing the alliance war skill lines which used to take million of ap can easily be done in a day now. Goobye pvp progression.
Levelling to 50 is also possible in pvp (IC)
you can get your skill lines up in pvp.
There are skyshards in cyrodill and IC you also get a skill point for every rank you go up in the alliance war.
I think you get fighters guild up from killing daedra so I guess you get xp from killing in IC?
Morphing skills is possible in PvE and PvP.
And no clue how vampire or werewolf leveling works but I guess it works by just killing adds or players so that should also work in pvp.
So 6 of your points are not restricted to PvE.Dro'mathra Destroyer, Gryphon Heart, Immortal Redemeer, Tick Tock Tormentor, The Unchained, Exstinguisher of Flames, Flawless Conqueror -
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✭Hurr Durr I don't want to spend 5-10h in PvP to get all I need because someone will kill me and sit on my face and I will feel violated and muh freedums man.
On the other hand it is pretty normal that PvPers need to grind undaunted skill line for like a month.
Makes perfect sense.
Please guys, I bag you to understand, dying is a part of game, both in PvE and in PvP. And you can farm everything pretty fast. Join PvP, get in Trueflame and who knows, maybe you will like it, maybe you will even learn something. Maybe you will hate it but no matter what, you will get your caltrops, vigor, agressive horn, guard or whatever you desire for PvE.
You get killed-rage. You get zerged-rage. You get ganked-rage. But the feel of accomplishment when you earn skills you like - absolutely priceless.
I think the difference here is that pvp is bad, and pve is objectively fun
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Unfortunately you won't be able too because if you want pvp skills you have to pvp.
Just like the pvp'ers have to bother with pve:
- levelling a character to 50
- getting skill lines to 50
- getting enough skill points from quests and skyshards
- getting fighters guild to 10
- mages guild to 10
- morphing all the skills
- undaunted to 9
- Farming sets from RNG dungeons
- Farming sets from RNG drops in open pve
- Levelling ww/vamp, including actually get ww/vamp.
- Farming undaunted for monster sets
- Farming msa for weapons / sets
- Farming DSA for weapons
- Farming trials for sets
As you can see all you pve'ers have to do to unlock vigor, which is what i'm guessing you want to do , is to get 86k ap which is like 2-3 hours worth of pvping. I'm sure you can suck it up and handle it.
Be gratful vigor used to be harder to get because it's such a useful skill but because of the crying of pve'er it's not a 2-3 hour job and maxing the alliance war skill lines which used to take million of ap can easily be done in a day now. Goobye pvp progression.
Levelling to 50 is also possible in pvp (IC)
you can get your skill lines up in pvp.
There are skyshards in cyrodill and IC you also get a skill point for every rank you go up in the alliance war.
I think you get fighters guild up from killing daedra so I guess you get xp from killing in IC?
Morphing skills is possible in PvE and PvP.
And no clue how vampire or werewolf leveling works but I guess it works by just killing adds or players so that should also work in pvp.
So 6 of your points are not restricted to PvE.
You level up in IC by KILLING MOBS therefore it's pve?
Again you level via exp therefore pve...
There is skyshards but not enough even if you get them all and you need to have all the passives and such before you pvp properly so again you need to skill points form pve.
Yes you get the fighters guild up by killing daedra which is again pve mobs, so it's still pve but in a pvp zone...
Morphing skills requires a lot of exp, you hardly get any from pvp so you need to pve...
Ww is killing adds or players but you need to do the pve quest to get it and then killing only players to level would take months.
Vamp needs experience so again you level in by killing mobs mostly, still pve.
Again all my points are restricted to pve.PS4 EU DC
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✭✭✭✭And I would like to not to be forced to grind two weeks for that undaunted passives. No. It was changed already few times, you can have your skills (caltrops and vigor i guess) in one evening. Pls take my appologies if I sound rude but it isnt realy hard to get this skills. PvPers have much more hard time with getting gear and skill lines (mages guild im looking at you). Im saying this as someone who enjoy both PvP and PvE. I used to think of my self like a pure PvPer but when Ive put some effort in creating suitable PvE dung/trial builds for my toons I started to like it a lot. Maybe if you will do the same you will start to like PvP. One I can tell you. PvP is what makes a men from a boy. When you get better in PvP you will get better in PvE to. If you can survive Cyrodiil there is no dung that can surprise you (well WGT, ICP, ROM etc. are hard yes, but its all about GROUP coordination). Pls, try it.Edited by Mayrael on December 22, 2016 8:31AMI am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
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Tempah✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Unfortunately you won't be able too because if you want pvp skills you have to pvp.
Just like the pvp'ers have to bother with pve:
- levelling a character to 50
- getting skill lines to 50
- getting enough skill points from quests and skyshards
- getting fighters guild to 10
- mages guild to 10
- morphing all the skills
- undaunted to 9
- Farming sets from RNG dungeons
- Farming sets from RNG drops in open pve
- Levelling ww/vamp, including actually get ww/vamp.
- Farming undaunted for monster sets
- Farming msa for weapons / sets
- Farming DSA for weapons
- Farming trials for sets
As you can see all you pve'ers have to do to unlock vigor, which is what i'm guessing you want to do , is to get 86k ap which is like 2-3 hours worth of pvping. I'm sure you can suck it up and handle it.
Be gratful vigor used to be harder to get because it's such a useful skill but because of the crying of pve'er it's not a 2-3 hour job and maxing the alliance war skill lines which used to take million of ap can easily be done in a day now. Goobye pvp progression.
Levelling to 50 is also possible in pvp (IC)
you can get your skill lines up in pvp.
There are skyshards in cyrodill and IC you also get a skill point for every rank you go up in the alliance war.
I think you get fighters guild up from killing daedra so I guess you get xp from killing in IC?
Morphing skills is possible in PvE and PvP.
And no clue how vampire or werewolf leveling works but I guess it works by just killing adds or players so that should also work in pvp.
So 6 of your points are not restricted to PvE.
You level up in IC by KILLING MOBS therefore it's pve?
Again you level via exp therefore pve...
There is skyshards but not enough even if you get them all and you need to have all the passives and such before you pvp properly so again you need to skill points form pve.
Yes you get the fighters guild up by killing daedra which is again pve mobs, so it's still pve but in a pvp zone...
Morphing skills requires a lot of exp, you hardly get any from pvp so you need to pve...
Ww is killing adds or players but you need to do the pve quest to get it and then killing only players to level would take months.
Vamp needs experience so again you level in by killing mobs mostly, still pve.
Again all my points are restricted to pve.
It is not restricted to PvE it is just easier to get in PvE then that it is in PvP areas.Dro'mathra Destroyer, Gryphon Heart, Immortal Redemeer, Tick Tock Tormentor, The Unchained, Exstinguisher of Flames, Flawless Conqueror
