raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
Sure, and then I want to earn undaunted/fighter and mage guild skills by PvP'ing instead of running dungeons and finding books.
William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
Sure, and then I want to earn undaunted/fighter and mage guild skills by PvP'ing instead of running dungeons and finding books.
What would be an equivalent to obtain undaunted/fighters and mages guild skills through pvping? What would you do differently to earn them in Cyrodiil without going into a PVE dungeon and finding books?
raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
You see here... I as a PVer don't give a skeever damn about the current war in Cyrodiil. I don't just PVE but also do a self RP. My toons simply don't give a damn what 3 idiotic factions do.... In fact my toons prefer that all 3 factions go dig a deep hole somewhere in Cyrodiil, and let them all kill each other until theirs non left. All 3 leaders from each factions are nothing but clowns
Zos would have to bend over backwards by giving us playable Daedra race (To fight for Molag bal) to actually convince me to step foot inside Cyrodiil...
raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
You see here... I as a PVer don't give a skeever damn about the current war in Cyrodiil. I don't just PVE but also do a self RP. My toons simply don't give a damn what 3 idiotic factions do.... In fact my toons prefer that all 3 factions go dig a deep hole somewhere in Cyrodiil, and let them all kill each other until theirs non left. All 3 leaders from each factions are nothing but clowns
Zos would have to bend over backwards by giving us playable Daedra race (To fight for Molag bal) to actually convince me to step foot inside Cyrodiil...
I think removing the necessity for them in PvE would be a better move, either by adding skills that can fill similar roles to abilities like vigor or war horn, or making some existing ones actually useful
Knootewoot wrote: »I think removing the necessity for them in PvE would be a better move, either by adding skills that can fill similar roles to abilities like vigor or war horn, or making some existing ones actually useful
That's why they have the healer role in PvE so they don't need Vigor. Vigor didn't even exist in the beginning of the game and many players, me included, finished all the content back then without Vigor.
war horn's also required for tanks in trials, and earns you major brownie points in dungeons
Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »Perhaps adding these skills into the fighters guild? You know you have to earn these skills from doing regular dailies from the fighters guild. I'm just now getting into stamina builds, and most of the builds that I've taken an interests of requires some of the skills from the Alliance war.
I have zero interests in doing pvp but I need some of the abilities from the Alliance war. Why not give us an opinion of earning them from the fighters guild through the dailies?
It's called "Alliance War" skills for a reason. They are obtained by participating in the alliance war.
And even as a strictly PvE'ers you can help us in the war.
- Capture resources --> you have to kill 5-6 NPC''s
- Scout castles/resources --> you don't have to kill anything, just go there and press "e" to write some notes
- Heal --> stand on a wall that is under attack. Stay out of sight of enemies and spam mutagen =free AP
- Go to a castle that is defending. Stay there and leech the tick of AP
- Check zone chat and wait for someone to say: KFC at keep X. Go to keep X and leech AP
- Wait for someone to steal a scroll. Then join a group who has a quest for that scroll. Take quest, leave group = free AP is scroll is delivered.
Or just maybe try PvP. You might even like it.
You see here... I as a PVer don't give a skeever damn about the current war in Cyrodiil. I don't just PVE but also do a self RP. My toons simply don't give a damn what 3 idiotic factions do.... In fact my toons prefer that all 3 factions go dig a deep hole somewhere in Cyrodiil, and let them all kill each other until theirs non left. All 3 leaders from each factions are nothing but clowns
Zos would have to bend over backwards by giving us playable Daedra race (To fight for Molag bal) to actually convince me to step foot inside Cyrodiil...
Well, that means no Vigor for you then. Don't worry. My new alt will spam it for the glory of the Daggerfall Covenant.
Knootewoot wrote: »
leepalmer95 wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Unfortunately you won't be able too because if you want pvp skills you have to pvp.
Just like the pvp'ers have to bother with pve:
- levelling a character to 50
- getting skill lines to 50
- getting enough skill points from quests and skyshards
- getting fighters guild to 10
- mages guild to 10
- morphing all the skills
- undaunted to 9
- Farming sets from RNG dungeons
- Farming sets from RNG drops in open pve
- Levelling ww/vamp, including actually get ww/vamp.
- Farming undaunted for monster sets
- Farming msa for weapons / sets
- Farming DSA for weapons
- Farming trials for sets
As you can see all you pve'ers have to do to unlock vigor, which is what i'm guessing you want to do , is to get 86k ap which is like 2-3 hours worth of pvping. I'm sure you can suck it up and handle it.
Be gratful vigor used to be harder to get because it's such a useful skill but because of the crying of pve'er it's not a 2-3 hour job and maxing the alliance war skill lines which used to take million of ap can easily be done in a day now. Goobye pvp progression.
Hurr Durr I don't want to spend 5-10h in PvP to get all I need because someone will kill me and sit on my face and I will feel violated and muh freedums man.
On the other hand it is pretty normal that PvPers need to grind undaunted skill line for like a month.
Makes perfect sense.
Please guys, I bag you to understand, dying is a part of game, both in PvE and in PvP. And you can farm everything pretty fast. Join PvP, get in Trueflame and who knows, maybe you will like it, maybe you will even learn something. Maybe you will hate it but no matter what, you will get your caltrops, vigor, agressive horn, guard or whatever you desire for PvE.
You get killed-rage. You get zerged-rage. You get ganked-rage. But the feel of accomplishment when you earn skills you like - absolutely priceless.
Knootewoot wrote: »
leepalmer95 wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Unfortunately you won't be able too because if you want pvp skills you have to pvp.
Just like the pvp'ers have to bother with pve:
- levelling a character to 50
- getting skill lines to 50
- getting enough skill points from quests and skyshards
- getting fighters guild to 10
- mages guild to 10
- morphing all the skills
- undaunted to 9
- Farming sets from RNG dungeons
- Farming sets from RNG drops in open pve
- Levelling ww/vamp, including actually get ww/vamp.
- Farming undaunted for monster sets
- Farming msa for weapons / sets
- Farming DSA for weapons
- Farming trials for sets
As you can see all you pve'ers have to do to unlock vigor, which is what i'm guessing you want to do , is to get 86k ap which is like 2-3 hours worth of pvping. I'm sure you can suck it up and handle it.
Be gratful vigor used to be harder to get because it's such a useful skill but because of the crying of pve'er it's not a 2-3 hour job and maxing the alliance war skill lines which used to take million of ap can easily be done in a day now. Goobye pvp progression.
Levelling to 50 is also possible in pvp (IC)
you can get your skill lines up in pvp.
There are skyshards in cyrodill and IC you also get a skill point for every rank you go up in the alliance war.
I think you get fighters guild up from killing daedra so I guess you get xp from killing in IC?
Morphing skills is possible in PvE and PvP.
And no clue how vampire or werewolf leveling works but I guess it works by just killing adds or players so that should also work in pvp.
So 6 of your points are not restricted to PvE.
leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »William_21 wrote: »This might be helpful to you or might not.
But farming AP is not that bad and it doesn't take that long to, say, unlock caltrops.
Defending/assaulting keeps gives you a nice amount of AP. You don't have to exactly go toe-to-toe with other players.
With the current Pvpers complaining about killer clothes killing them through proc sets..... mmm nope. I'm not stepping foot into Cyrodiil.
I'm 100% pure PVER
I would like to earn the same skills from a different and more comfortable approach that is in PvE Territory.
Unfortunately you won't be able too because if you want pvp skills you have to pvp.
Just like the pvp'ers have to bother with pve:
- levelling a character to 50
- getting skill lines to 50
- getting enough skill points from quests and skyshards
- getting fighters guild to 10
- mages guild to 10
- morphing all the skills
- undaunted to 9
- Farming sets from RNG dungeons
- Farming sets from RNG drops in open pve
- Levelling ww/vamp, including actually get ww/vamp.
- Farming undaunted for monster sets
- Farming msa for weapons / sets
- Farming DSA for weapons
- Farming trials for sets
As you can see all you pve'ers have to do to unlock vigor, which is what i'm guessing you want to do , is to get 86k ap which is like 2-3 hours worth of pvping. I'm sure you can suck it up and handle it.
Be gratful vigor used to be harder to get because it's such a useful skill but because of the crying of pve'er it's not a 2-3 hour job and maxing the alliance war skill lines which used to take million of ap can easily be done in a day now. Goobye pvp progression.
Levelling to 50 is also possible in pvp (IC)
you can get your skill lines up in pvp.
There are skyshards in cyrodill and IC you also get a skill point for every rank you go up in the alliance war.
I think you get fighters guild up from killing daedra so I guess you get xp from killing in IC?
Morphing skills is possible in PvE and PvP.
And no clue how vampire or werewolf leveling works but I guess it works by just killing adds or players so that should also work in pvp.
So 6 of your points are not restricted to PvE.
You level up in IC by KILLING MOBS therefore it's pve?
Again you level via exp therefore pve...
There is skyshards but not enough even if you get them all and you need to have all the passives and such before you pvp properly so again you need to skill points form pve.
Yes you get the fighters guild up by killing daedra which is again pve mobs, so it's still pve but in a pvp zone...
Morphing skills requires a lot of exp, you hardly get any from pvp so you need to pve...
Ww is killing adds or players but you need to do the pve quest to get it and then killing only players to level would take months.
Vamp needs experience so again you level in by killing mobs mostly, still pve.
Again all my points are restricted to pve.