Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
wheres that info?
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
1).Ok well here is a direct interview fomr Matt Fior form august 2016. in this he tells you directly spell crafting was taken out and put on back burner . Now he does say eventually one day. Spell crafting has been talked about coming since 9 months post release. housing was not even on the radar at that time. this is his most recent interview on content and changes to ESO.
Okay. I guess the same thing could be said about spell crafting?
Same thing. With spell crafting we actually got in enough to start seeing how it worked, we didn’t like the design so much and it was going to be more work than we thought to get it to launch so we kind of put it aside to do Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, One Tamriel, housing etc.
But it will come eventually, it’s just further out.
2). Here he talks about future classes and he says maybe one day he also thinks that thieves guild and DB constitute new skill lines . those are passives that are basically good for the zone , no impact at all on your character really.
Are you potentially interested in adding new classes in the future as well?
Yeah, maybe some day. We all have ideas but for now we’re focused on One Tamriel which is a huge change behind the scenes for the game, with players of all levels playing together, so we want to do all that before we start adding new things.
3).when asked about ESO's three year plan, he was evasive and did not confirm anything.
Where do you see Elder Scrolls Online in two or three years from now?
Oh, we have plans for a long time. We have lots of content planned; you know, it’s like online games, we’ll be making content for as long as people want to play the game. We’re in for the long haul.
So where again is this conformation of content form the games director as future content coming he did not even commit to next year. Ive already stated and shown it was not only me who heard of 6 classes in ESO in alpha. so take it what ever way you want. No where did he ever say anything about warden coming in any of his recent interviews nor did he speak about any new content for 2017. simply put and the point i was trying to make is there is no know future content for ESO other then housing.
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
1).Ok well here is a direct interview fomr Matt Fior form august 2016. in this he tells you directly spell crafting was taken out and put on back burner . Now he does say eventually one day. Spell crafting has been talked about coming since 9 months post release. housing was not even on the radar at that time. this is his most recent interview on content and changes to ESO.
Okay. I guess the same thing could be said about spell crafting?
Same thing. With spell crafting we actually got in enough to start seeing how it worked, we didn’t like the design so much and it was going to be more work than we thought to get it to launch so we kind of put it aside to do Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, One Tamriel, housing etc.
But it will come eventually, it’s just further out.
2). Here he talks about future classes and he says maybe one day he also thinks that thieves guild and DB constitute new skill lines . those are passives that are basically good for the zone , no impact at all on your character really.
Are you potentially interested in adding new classes in the future as well?
Yeah, maybe some day. We all have ideas but for now we’re focused on One Tamriel which is a huge change behind the scenes for the game, with players of all levels playing together, so we want to do all that before we start adding new things.
3).when asked about ESO's three year plan, he was evasive and did not confirm anything.
So where again is this conformation of content form the games director as future content coming he did not even commit to next year. Ive already stated and shown it was not only me who heard of 6 classes in ESO in alpha. so take it what ever way you want. No where did he ever say anything about warden coming in any of his recent interviews nor did he speak about any new content for 2017.
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
1).Ok well here is a direct interview fomr Matt Fior form august 2016. in this he tells you directly spell crafting was taken out and put on back burner . Now he does say eventually one day. Spell crafting has been talked about coming since 9 months post release. housing was not even on the radar at that time. this is his most recent interview on content and changes to ESO.
Okay. I guess the same thing could be said about spell crafting?
Same thing. With spell crafting we actually got in enough to start seeing how it worked, we didn’t like the design so much and it was going to be more work than we thought to get it to launch so we kind of put it aside to do Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, One Tamriel, housing etc.
But it will come eventually, it’s just further out.
2). Here he talks about future classes and he says maybe one day he also thinks that thieves guild and DB constitute new skill lines . those are passives that are basically good for the zone , no impact at all on your character really.
Are you potentially interested in adding new classes in the future as well?
Yeah, maybe some day. We all have ideas but for now we’re focused on One Tamriel which is a huge change behind the scenes for the game, with players of all levels playing together, so we want to do all that before we start adding new things.
3).when asked about ESO's three year plan, he was evasive and did not confirm anything.
So where again is this conformation of content form the games director as future content coming he did not even commit to next year. Ive already stated and shown it was not only me who heard of 6 classes in ESO in alpha. so take it what ever way you want. No where did he ever say anything about warden coming in any of his recent interviews nor did he speak about any new content for 2017.
No one confirmed a single one of the classes you are claiming you heard of.
Everything he said points to either a possibility of it being added eventually (when asked about new classes) or it definitely being added eventually, but no ETA (spellcrafting). Yes, he didn't say "Warden is coming", but the Warden skills were datamined recently and he didn't say it isn't coming.
He didn't shot down any of it, and not a single time any dev came out and said any of this wasn't happen. You read it and decided to not believe it is coming. That's your feelings, not concrete evidence.
So until anything changes, @Vaoh is right on putting these as future content, because at this point we only have evidence pointing to it being added one day.
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
1).Ok well here is a direct interview fomr Matt Fior form august 2016. in this he tells you directly spell crafting was taken out and put on back burner . Now he does say eventually one day. Spell crafting has been talked about coming since 9 months post release. housing was not even on the radar at that time. this is his most recent interview on content and changes to ESO.
Okay. I guess the same thing could be said about spell crafting?
Same thing. With spell crafting we actually got in enough to start seeing how it worked, we didn’t like the design so much and it was going to be more work than we thought to get it to launch so we kind of put it aside to do Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, One Tamriel, housing etc.
But it will come eventually, it’s just further out.
2). Here he talks about future classes and he says maybe one day he also thinks that thieves guild and DB constitute new skill lines . those are passives that are basically good for the zone , no impact at all on your character really.
Are you potentially interested in adding new classes in the future as well?
Yeah, maybe some day. We all have ideas but for now we’re focused on One Tamriel which is a huge change behind the scenes for the game, with players of all levels playing together, so we want to do all that before we start adding new things.
3).when asked about ESO's three year plan, he was evasive and did not confirm anything.
So where again is this conformation of content form the games director as future content coming he did not even commit to next year. Ive already stated and shown it was not only me who heard of 6 classes in ESO in alpha. so take it what ever way you want. No where did he ever say anything about warden coming in any of his recent interviews nor did he speak about any new content for 2017.
No one confirmed a single one of the classes you are claiming you heard of.
Everything he said points to either a possibility of it being added eventually (when asked about new classes) or it definitely being added eventually, but no ETA (spellcrafting). Yes, he didn't say "Warden is coming", but the Warden skills were datamined recently and he didn't say it isn't coming.
He didn't shot down any of it, and not a single time any dev came out and said any of this wasn't happen. You read it and decided to not believe it is coming. That's your feelings, not concrete evidence.
So until anything changes, @Vaoh is right on putting these as future content, because at this point we only have evidence pointing to it being added one day.
Well there is one other person that was phase 1 beta here that knows the story with warden, he already piped in and another the remembers the rumors of Monk battlemage combo to make DK. Abeille you know as well as i the trck record ZOS has with content , promises and the rate at which they add content in. you have been playing since launch have you not? you know as well as i they are an easy 18 months behind what they announce to what they get in. so if they have not announced any of this stuff do you think they will have any of this stuff in the next 30 months? id bet your not even playing this MMO by the time Spell crafting hits live let alone warden. ill tell you what ill buy you a 90 day card to what ever MMO your playing by then if either of those two features hit ESO in a 2 year mark.
Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Wifeaggro13 wrote: »For what ever reason i am being taken as a negative troll. All i am trying to do is put a bit of truth into a massive speculation that is being branded as known future content. that is very very far from the truth. zos has only stated the first qrt 2017 content housing. i dont see them adding spellcrafting or a warden till 2018 if there is any truth to the conjecture.
You are not being taken as a troll. The problem is that people who are putting forward said "speculations" are linking sources to back up their claims, while you are not putting forward any official sources for what you claim to be the truth.
If you just don't think these will be released because you feel like ZOS doesn't deliver, that's fine, but that is based on your feelings and therefore isn't the absolute truth.just an fyi that only adds 204 Champ points to the current 561 due to matt's logic....
51 champ points a dlc.
which mean after next year if four dlc's come out the cp cap will be 765...
if anyone is wondering it will be 12 years give or take before champ level 3000 max if we go by that logic
They are increasing the cap by 30 Champion Points per update, not 51.
Also, the max is 3600.
That's 25 years.
1).Ok well here is a direct interview fomr Matt Fior form august 2016. in this he tells you directly spell crafting was taken out and put on back burner . Now he does say eventually one day. Spell crafting has been talked about coming since 9 months post release. housing was not even on the radar at that time. this is his most recent interview on content and changes to ESO.
Okay. I guess the same thing could be said about spell crafting?
Same thing. With spell crafting we actually got in enough to start seeing how it worked, we didn’t like the design so much and it was going to be more work than we thought to get it to launch so we kind of put it aside to do Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, One Tamriel, housing etc.
But it will come eventually, it’s just further out.
2). Here he talks about future classes and he says maybe one day he also thinks that thieves guild and DB constitute new skill lines . those are passives that are basically good for the zone , no impact at all on your character really.
Are you potentially interested in adding new classes in the future as well?
Yeah, maybe some day. We all have ideas but for now we’re focused on One Tamriel which is a huge change behind the scenes for the game, with players of all levels playing together, so we want to do all that before we start adding new things.
3).when asked about ESO's three year plan, he was evasive and did not confirm anything.
So where again is this conformation of content form the games director as future content coming he did not even commit to next year. Ive already stated and shown it was not only me who heard of 6 classes in ESO in alpha. so take it what ever way you want. No where did he ever say anything about warden coming in any of his recent interviews nor did he speak about any new content for 2017.
No one confirmed a single one of the classes you are claiming you heard of.
Everything he said points to either a possibility of it being added eventually (when asked about new classes) or it definitely being added eventually, but no ETA (spellcrafting). Yes, he didn't say "Warden is coming", but the Warden skills were datamined recently and he didn't say it isn't coming.
He didn't shot down any of it, and not a single time any dev came out and said any of this wasn't happen. You read it and decided to not believe it is coming. That's your feelings, not concrete evidence.
So until anything changes, @Vaoh is right on putting these as future content, because at this point we only have evidence pointing to it being added one day.
Well there is one other person that was phase 1 beta here that knows the story with warden, he already piped in and another the remembers the rumors of Monk battlemage combo to make DK. Abeille you know as well as i the trck record ZOS has with content , promises and the rate at which they add content in. you have been playing since launch have you not? you know as well as i they are an easy 18 months behind what they announce to what they get in. so if they have not announced any of this stuff do you think they will have any of this stuff in the next 30 months? id bet your not even playing this MMO by the time Spell crafting hits live let alone warden. ill tell you what ill buy you a 90 day card to what ever MMO your playing by then if either of those two features hit ESO in a 2 year mark.
We all know the story with the Warden, the issue was with the other classes that you claimed were part of the initial plan. No one confirmed it, it was just speculation back then.
I know the track record ZOS has with content and yes have been playing since release (well, since the last few beta weekends, I'm a Sanguine tester). "Soon" takes a while, but it arrives, unless the plans change, like with the second part of the Justice System which was indeed scrapped (and if any plans changed regarding the stuff in this thread, they didn't tell us). No one here is putting any time limit on them being added but you. Even if it is added in 30 years, it is still "future content".
I'm not a MMO hopper, I stick with my MMOs for much more than two years unless something really drastic happens. And ESO is specially important for me because it is TES, and I'm a long time TES fan. But I'll take your bet. I'll bookmark this so I can come back here in two years and send you a message.
How so? I haven't noticed anything in Orsinium that changes based on player actions. The only thing I've noticed is the city getting rebuilt over the course of the storyline, which happens for everyone, and is dependent on quest completion, not specific player actions.Well, meh, whatever... only Orsinium actually changes depending on the player's action. Everything else in ESO is like a static movie set with actors.
How so? I haven't noticed anything in Orsinium that changes based on player actions. The only thing I've noticed is the city getting rebuilt over the course of the storyline, which happens for everyone, and is dependent on quest completion, not specific player actions.Well, meh, whatever... only Orsinium actually changes depending on the player's action. Everything else in ESO is like a static movie set with actors.
Mmm fair enough, but I would just see that as an incidental result of a quest choice. ESO is full of seemingly-important decisions that have no actual longstanding impact outside the quest chain. At least this choice perpetuates to the end of the quest chain, I guess.If you kill Talviah (shame on you), Eveli gets mad at you and goes with you to meet the Priestess. She jumps in front of the arrow, saving the Priestess's life (the arrow doesn't kill Eveli).How so? I haven't noticed anything in Orsinium that changes based on player actions. The only thing I've noticed is the city getting rebuilt over the course of the storyline, which happens for everyone, and is dependent on quest completion, not specific player actions.Well, meh, whatever... only Orsinium actually changes depending on the player's action. Everything else in ESO is like a static movie set with actors.
I didn't do it, not even in my "evil" character. It isn't Talviah's fault that the Priestess dies, he didn't deserve to die, it wouldn't benefit my characters in any way, he is just a sweet little cupcake who did no wrong.
Mmm fair enough, but I would just see that as an incidental result of a quest choice. ESO is full of seemingly-important decisions that have no actual longstanding impact outside the quest chain. At least this choice perpetuates to the end of the quest chain, I guess.If you kill Talviah (shame on you), Eveli gets mad at you and goes with you to meet the Priestess. She jumps in front of the arrow, saving the Priestess's life (the arrow doesn't kill Eveli).How so? I haven't noticed anything in Orsinium that changes based on player actions. The only thing I've noticed is the city getting rebuilt over the course of the storyline, which happens for everyone, and is dependent on quest completion, not specific player actions.Well, meh, whatever... only Orsinium actually changes depending on the player's action. Everything else in ESO is like a static movie set with actors.
I didn't do it, not even in my "evil" character. It isn't Talviah's fault that the Priestess dies, he didn't deserve to die, it wouldn't benefit my characters in any way, he is just a sweet little cupcake who did no wrong.
How stupidly optimistic am I to continue to hold on to my belief that Vvardenfell, Clockwork City, and Mephala's Realm will all come at once? To me, based on what we know so far, they all sound like aspects of the same content.roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »My guess is Clockwork city comes in Q2 and Vvardenfell afterwards in Q3. Maybe Q4 is a small zone. Maybe Vvardenfell comes in Q4. Who knows?
Wolfchild07 wrote: »Gimme that Warden, summon dremora lord, and paralyze! *Drool*
How stupidly optimistic am I to continue to hold on to my belief that Vvardenfell, Clockwork City, and Mephala's Realm will all come at once? To me, based on what we know so far, they all sound like aspects of the same content.roigseguib16_ESO wrote: »My guess is Clockwork city comes in Q2 and Vvardenfell afterwards in Q3. Maybe Q4 is a small zone. Maybe Vvardenfell comes in Q4. Who knows?These things are too interconnected to be separate, so either they all come at once, or the storyline will be incomplete after each one drops.
- "The war shall begin when the gates of Sotha Sil's lost city are reopened" - That's Clockwork City. If that's when the war begins, that sounds to me like it will be a starting point and hub location for the content which comes afterwards.
- "The great deceiver, the sewer of discord, and the patron of darkness" - That's Boethia, Mephala, and X. We know the Spiral Skein (Mephala's Realm) is coming, so it would make sense for that to be part of this. If it's not involved in that, I can't see when it would appear.
- Mephala is the Anticipation of Vivec. Boethia is one of the Anticipations too (of Almalexia). Sotha Sil is one of the Tribunal, along with Vivec (and Almalexia) (his Anticipation is Azura). Vivec's city is on Vvardenfell.
Theory: Your assistance is required in the Daedra War. You go to Clockwork City, as a staging ground, and from there, move on to Vivec City on Vvardenfell. Through the course of the storyline across Vvardenfell, you find out about the other players in the war, and it culminates with you going to the Spiral Skein, since Mephala is one of the instigators of the Daedra War.
I decided to compile all of the information we have regarding future zones and systems in ESO. This includes both official information as well as legitimate information found through datamining.
[...]
MMORPG: On that note, when WILL we see the story continued? We all want to know what's going on with Varen and the rest of the cast since the defeat of Molag Baal.
RL: Something will happen sometime during Update 13 to further that particular storyline. Not going to say when, what or how just yet because… spoilers.