I am in the "not so much" category of 70+ crates and no atro mounts. I did get a black maned lion, so... yay? The problem with RNG for cash is that somebody could buy a 15 pack of crates and get all 6 unique mounts, while another person could open 2,000+ crates and get zero atro mounts. Yeah, they'd be able to get the mounts through the gems, but still. The drop rate is punishing. I'm not against the crates, as I've opened a lot. But it's a feeling of... well, defeat to open that many and just get nothing but (mostly) crap.In the end a gamble is going to be a gamble though. Some people end up lucky, other people not so much.
You can open up the Crown Store interface and see all the items listed in the crates. The only ones that don't show, to my knowledge, are some of the XP scrolls.Has anyone compiled a list of the crate-exclusive items, which according to Gina are supposed to be listed on the crate UI?
All we can do is assume good faith, as is the way for any open collaboration. That's not too far off what we had on PTS though.The spreadsheet had good intentions, but it's completely useless tbh.
Only the people who get *** rewards post in there. 200+ crates and only 2 apex? These results are so skewed it's not even funny. I bought a pack of 15 crates and got 2 apex mounts (granted it was the bear twice, so a duplicate) and I've spoken to a lot of people who got anywhere from 1 to 3 apex mounts in the 15 crate bundle.
In the end a gamble is going to be a gamble though. Some people end up lucky, other people not so much.
EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if some crown crate haters are filling the sheet up with rubbish information to discourage their purchase.
You can open up the Crown Store interface and see all the items listed in the crates. The only ones that don't show, to my knowledge, are some of the XP scrolls.Has anyone compiled a list of the crate-exclusive items, which according to Gina are supposed to be listed on the crate UI?
It's 5,000 crowns. A pack of 5,500 crowns costs $40, so you're paying about $37-38 for a 15 pack.Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »How much does a 15 Crown Crate purchase equate to US$?
It's 5,000 crowns. A pack of 5,500 crowns costs $40, so you're paying about $37-38 for a 15 pack.Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »How much does a 15 Crown Crate purchase equate to US$?
Box 1:
25 Crown Lethal Poisons
5 Crown Spellcaster's Elixirs
5 Crown Warrior's Elixirs
Azure Brow-to-Temple Circlet (blue)
Box 2:
5 Crown Spellcaster's Elixirs
Soul-Shriven Ragged Clothing (blue)
5 Crown Invisibility Potions
Crown Lesson: Riding Stamina (green)
So as I suspected, all trash.
Also:
25 Crown Lethal Poisons = 1 Gem
5 Crown Potions = 1 gem
1 Riding lesson = 1 gem
What a trash system. Glad I only bought two. Will never buy another.
Friendly reminder that drop rates don't tell you how many gambling boxes you need to buy to get a certain item. If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
Also friendly reminder that there are no guarantees that they won't change the drop rates as they see fit, have no obligation to disclose the drop rates legally, and we have no way to validate alleged drop data.
Also friendly reminder that we don't even know if these use RNG at all, or to what extent, or if it changes moment to moment.
Also friendly announcement that I have evidence suggesting that some people have higher chances of getting the rare mounts than others, and will post the screenshot on request (names removed of course).
Not sure if I quite agree with that wording. The trials are independent and without memory. There is a 1% chance on the first crate, and a 1% chance on the 459th crate.If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
Not sure if I quite agree with that wording. The trials are independent and without memory. There is a 1% chance on the first crate, and a 1% chance on the 459th crate.If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »Spent roughly $30 worth on crates.
Bunch of crap
2 crappy soul-shriven armor outfits (may I just say these are fugly)
1 Daedric Scamp
Yeah, waste of money. If you can't get a mount in $30 worth than its just a rip off. Lesson learned.
Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Friendly reminder that drop rates don't tell you how many gambling boxes you need to buy to get a certain item. If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
Also friendly reminder that there are no guarantees that they won't change the drop rates as they see fit, have no obligation to disclose the drop rates legally, and we have no way to validate alleged drop data.
Also friendly reminder that we don't even know if these use RNG at all, or to what extent, or if it changes moment to moment.
Also friendly announcement that I have evidence suggesting that some people have higher chances of getting the rare mounts than others, and will post the screenshot on request (names removed of course).
Yes, I would like to see that and the reason why.
Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Friendly reminder that drop rates don't tell you how many gambling boxes you need to buy to get a certain item. If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
Also friendly reminder that there are no guarantees that they won't change the drop rates as they see fit, have no obligation to disclose the drop rates legally, and we have no way to validate alleged drop data.
Also friendly reminder that we don't even know if these use RNG at all, or to what extent, or if it changes moment to moment.
Also friendly announcement that I have evidence suggesting that some people have higher chances of getting the rare mounts than others, and will post the screenshot on request (names removed of course).
Yes, I would like to see that and the reason why.
I don't have the reason why, didn't want to ask, figured it would expose too many details about the claimant. They definitely had it all, though.
Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Friendly reminder that drop rates don't tell you how many gambling boxes you need to buy to get a certain item. If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
Also friendly reminder that there are no guarantees that they won't change the drop rates as they see fit, have no obligation to disclose the drop rates legally, and we have no way to validate alleged drop data.
Also friendly reminder that we don't even know if these use RNG at all, or to what extent, or if it changes moment to moment.
Also friendly announcement that I have evidence suggesting that some people have higher chances of getting the rare mounts than others, and will post the screenshot on request (names removed of course).
Yes, I would like to see that and the reason why.
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I don't have the reason why, didn't want to ask, figured it would expose too many details about the claimant. They definitely had it all, though.
Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Friendly reminder that drop rates don't tell you how many gambling boxes you need to buy to get a certain item. If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
Also friendly reminder that there are no guarantees that they won't change the drop rates as they see fit, have no obligation to disclose the drop rates legally, and we have no way to validate alleged drop data.
Also friendly reminder that we don't even know if these use RNG at all, or to what extent, or if it changes moment to moment.
Also friendly announcement that I have evidence suggesting that some people have higher chances of getting the rare mounts than others, and will post the screenshot on request (names removed of course).
Yes, I would like to see that and the reason why.
I don't have the reason why, didn't want to ask, figured it would expose too many details about the claimant. They definitely had it all, though.
Not sure if I quite agree with that wording. The trials are independent and without memory. There is a 1% chance on the first crate, and a 1% chance on the 459th crate.If the drop chance of something is 1%, you do not need to buy only 100 gambling boxes to get it. In fact, after 100 boxes you only have a 2/3 chance of getting the item. If you want to get it up to a 99% success chance you'd need to buy 459 gambling boxes. And there's no way to get a 100% success rate, just smaller and smaller chances of failure.
Follow the link, it explains the math. What is being measured here is all 459 trials simultaneously, not each individually. You are right to question, but need more background in probability to understand the message, which already lets you know how *** an average person is when trying to figure out how much money is appropriate to risk on these gambling boxes. Why is it incumbent on the customer to have an advanced math degree just to be able to make an informed decision about their risktaking?
biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »Spent roughly $30 worth on crates.
Bunch of crap
2 crappy soul-shriven armor outfits (may I just say these are fugly)
1 Daedric Scamp
Yeah, waste of money. If you can't get a mount in $30 worth than its just a rip off. Lesson learned.
Then it wasn't a waste of money. There will be other seasons of crates, an now you know enough to make an informed choice