Alchemist writ too expensive

Lifsteinn

Everyday the alchemist writ asks for 3 Nirnroot, this is getting the Nirnroot price to high and making Alchemy Writ the most expensive by far, and also the least worth it.
Could you please add some love to Alchemy Writ?
And besides, a Alchemy Hireling would be AWESOME!

Saucy_Jack

Step 1: run around water for 30 seconds.
Step 2: Find 3 nirnroot.
Step 3: Turn in writ.

Out of all the plants, nirnroot's one of the easiest to find. Why is the writ cost such a big deal?

Enodoc

I remember sending in feedback about this months ago There are so many different reagents that the writ could ask for, but it's always Nirnroot. Come on ZOS, let's cycle the required reagent between a few different options!

bitels

As @Saucy_Jack said. Nirnroot is probably easiest to find plant in whole game- you even get sound whenever you are close to one, and it isnt an ingredient for any good potion i can think of.
I can imagine outcry if alchemist writ ask you for columbine or ladys smock instead.
I was always shocked about it price, but it is cost of being lazy i guess

DRXHarbinger

There is 4 all the time in hollow city. Not exactly a hardship.

Enodoc

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Step 1: run around water for 30 seconds.
Step 2: Find 3 nirnroot.
Step 3: Turn in writ.

Out of all the plants, nirnroot's one of the easiest to find. Why is the writ cost such a big deal?

Water Hyacinth is even easier, since everyone only ever picks the Nirnroot, and if a Water Hyacinth spawns there after, it's just left, and then the Nirnroot can't respawn again

Saucy_Jack

Enodoc wrote: »

I remember sending in feedback about this months ago There are so many different reagents that the writ could ask for, but it's always Nirnroot. Come on ZOS, let's cycle the required reagent between a few different options!

Do you want writs to require columbine?

You MANIAC

STEVIL

Nirnroot easy to find in casual play without even dedicated harvesting.
Nirnroot one of the most useless as far as crafting.
If they didnt ask for it they would ask for others that you actually use. You would prefer they ask for columbine?

Add a toggle allowing a crafter to sub columbine in for nirnroot. Problem solved.

Tried selling nirnroot in stores at a fraction of the price of columbine last time someone started this. Columbine, smock, dragon sold like hotcakes. Nirnroot sat.

Btw other tier alchemy provide almost identical rewards.

Unsent.Soul

If I'm too lazy to farm, I just ask in zone chat or guild chat and always get someone who is helpful. Either giving me dozens for free or, a small price.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Nirnroot isn't as common as it used to be. In fact it's getting pretty rare imho.
And nirnroot is useful for invisibility pots, which you might consider useful or useless depending on the content you like to play.

And like @Enodoc I'd like to see more variations in the requirement for alchemy writs (and also more ingredients in the rewards of said writs).

Junipus

Lifsteinn wrote: »

Everyday the alchemist writ asks for 3 Nirnroot, this is getting the Nirnroot price to high and making Alchemy Writ the most expensive by far, and also the least worth it.
Could you please add some love to Alchemy Writ?
And besides, a Alchemy Hireling would be AWESOME!

Alchemist writs also ask for 3 waters too, so you've got a realistic 50% chance of 3 nirnroot.

Assuming you're on console and prices are wildly fluctuating due to gougers or no real price brackets, you can spend an hour running around areas like the Hollow City or anywhere with bodies of water and get enough nirnroot to craft 3-4 writs, or writs for 3-4 days if you have bad rng with your writ materials.

There's also a poison satchel available if you've done the DB questline or just ground the skill line up for the passive, and this poison satchel has a chance of giving Nirnroot every 24 hours. Lastly, if you're not on console, go grind Tel Var and redeem it for the new alchemy satchels and get your Nirnroot there. Or get lots of columbine to trade for Nirnroot.

Lifsteinn

It is nothing about easy or hard to gather, you are not understanding the point.

By the way, they are selling for 500g each, if you think is that easy, go make a fortune!

AlnilamE

Enodoc wrote: »

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Step 1: run around water for 30 seconds.
Step 2: Find 3 nirnroot.
Step 3: Turn in writ.

Out of all the plants, nirnroot's one of the easiest to find. Why is the writ cost such a big deal?

Water Hyacinth is even easier, since everyone only ever picks the Nirnroot, and if a Water Hyacinth spawns there after, it's just left, and then the Nirnroot can't respawn again

Water Hyacinth and Nirnrood each have their own unique spawns. They don't overlap.

Also, it's the Tier 10 alchemy writ that only asks for Nirnroot. When I had alts doing the lower level ones, it asked for Blessed Thistle and something else. Was a good way to go out and gather mats.

The fact that the writ asks for Nirnroot is one of the ways that gets me out gathering (even though I have plenty of Nirnroot). I go to a spot where I know there are a fair number of spawn locations and I just gather everything around while I wait for them to show up.

Korah_Eaglecry

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Step 1: run around water for 30 seconds.
Step 2: Find 3 nirnroot.
Step 3: Turn in writ.

Out of all the plants, nirnroot's one of the easiest to find. Why is the writ cost such a big deal?

You obviously havent been hunting down nirnroot in a while. Its not that damn abundant that you can just spend 30 seconds by some water and find it. I spent an hour over two days running around Shadowfen and the swamps of Deshaan searching for Nirnroot. The first day I only found one. The second day I got lucky and found a whopping 4.

Nirnroot might have been an easy find before One Tamriel. And Im sure some people have better luck than others. But in that hour I found more Water Hycaninths than nirnroots. Its spawn rate is either bugged or they need up the rate on it.

Dubhliam

Honestly, until the writs required Nirnroot for completion, it was basically worthless.
I didn't even bother picking up Nirnroot.
Even though it has a particular glowy sound when I was near it.

So basically, Nirnroot's price got to exactly the point where it is on the edge of being profitable for writs, because it isn't being used for anything else other than writs.
You're not losing gold, believe me.
You get 600+ gold simply for turning in your writ, and all mats are extra.

That being said, I have no idea why they decided only one reagent would be required from endgame writs.
There are plenty of other reagents like Spider Egg, Fleshfly Larva etc. that could share the writ requirement.

Enodoc

AlnilamE wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Step 1: run around water for 30 seconds.
Step 2: Find 3 nirnroot.
Step 3: Turn in writ.

Out of all the plants, nirnroot's one of the easiest to find. Why is the writ cost such a big deal?

Water Hyacinth is even easier, since everyone only ever picks the Nirnroot, and if a Water Hyacinth spawns there after, it's just left, and then the Nirnroot can't respawn again

Water Hyacinth and Nirnrood each have their own unique spawns. They don't overlap.

Yeah they do. There are three spawn types: flowers, mushrooms, and water plants. Every reagent belongs to one of those categories, and each spawn point is of one of those three categories.

AlnilamE

Dubhliam wrote: »

Honestly, until the writs required Nirnroot for completion, it was basically worthless.
I didn't even bother picking up Nirnroot.
Even though it has a particular glowy sound when I was near it.

The sound alone didn't compel you to harvest it??? O_O

FleetwoodSmack

AlnilamE wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

Honestly, until the writs required Nirnroot for completion, it was basically worthless.
I didn't even bother picking up Nirnroot.
Even though it has a particular glowy sound when I was near it.

The sound alone didn't compel you to harvest it??? O_O

I pick it because the sound is just... It's nails on a chalkboard. ._.

Danksta

Junipus wrote: »

Lifsteinn wrote: »

Everyday the alchemist writ asks for 3 Nirnroot, this is getting the Nirnroot price to high and making Alchemy Writ the most expensive by far, and also the least worth it.
Could you please add some love to Alchemy Writ?
And besides, a Alchemy Hireling would be AWESOME!

Alchemist writs also ask for 3 waters too, so you've got a realistic 50% chance of 3 nirnroot.

Assuming you're on console and prices are wildly fluctuating due to gougers or no real price brackets, you can spend an hour running around areas like the Hollow City or anywhere with bodies of water and get enough nirnroot to craft 3-4 writs, or writs for 3-4 days if you have bad rng with your writ materials.

There's also a poison satchel available if you've done the DB questline or just ground the skill line up for the passive, and this poison satchel has a chance of giving Nirnroot every 24 hours. Lastly, if you're not on console, go grind Tel Var and redeem it for the new alchemy satchels and get your Nirnroot there. Or get lots of columbine to trade for Nirnroot.

Unless they've changed things (they could have I just started doing my writs again) the alchemy writs are on a 4 day rotation, and 3 of those 4 days ask for nirnroot.

code65536

Enodoc wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Step 1: run around water for 30 seconds.
Step 2: Find 3 nirnroot.
Step 3: Turn in writ.

Out of all the plants, nirnroot's one of the easiest to find. Why is the writ cost such a big deal?

Water Hyacinth is even easier, since everyone only ever picks the Nirnroot, and if a Water Hyacinth spawns there after, it's just left, and then the Nirnroot can't respawn again

Water Hyacinth and Nirnrood each have their own unique spawns. They don't overlap.

Yeah they do. There are three spawn types: flowers, mushrooms, and water plants. Every reagent belongs to one of those categories, and each spawn point is of one of those three categories.

Except a Nirnroot spawn will always bee a Nirnroot spawn and never a Hyacinth spawn. And vice-versa.

So there are really 6 types of harvestable alchemical nodes:

• Flower: Any kind of non-fungal reagent except Nirnroot and Water Hyacinth
• Mushroom: Any kind of fungal reagent
• Water Hyacinth: Always Water Hyacinth
• Nirnroot: Always Nirnroot
• Pure Water
• Water Sack

And to the OP: I avoid doing low-level writs because they will sometimes ask for precious ingredients Thistle (used in weapon pots) and Corn Flower (used in spell pots). Nirnroot's prevalence in the higher-tier writs are what makes those writs so much more attractive: Nirnroot is only use is in the cheap and simple invisibility potions (the fancy invisibility potions use Namira's Rot instead of Nirnroot).

There are very few ingredients that would make for better candidates than Nirnroot (mostly the new ones: Larvae, Eggs, etc.)

Dubhliam

Actually, if you think about it, Nirnroot is actually a logical choice.

It can be farme easily when needed. It is the only water plant besides Water Hyacinth, but the Hyacinth is useful for creating potions.
So when people get a writ, they can easily farm their own materials, without having to go buy them.

If we follow that logic, there are a couple more reagents that are relatively abundant: Thorchbug Thorax, Fleshfly Larva and Butterfly Wing.
Sure, some of those reagents already have a good price tag on them because they are useful for potions,. but some could easily be an alternative for Nirn.

Joy_Division

Imagine the price of the ingredients people actually use in pots if you think Nirnroot is too high.

Narvuntien

The one that I couldn't find was Cornflower.

To the point where I now hoard it because of how hard it was to find as my first ever Alchemical writ.

Lifsteinn

code65536 wrote: »

And to the OP: I avoid doing low-level writs because they will sometimes ask for precious ingredients Thistle (used in weapon pots) and Corn Flower (used in spell pots). Nirnroot's prevalence in the higher-tier writs are what makes those writs so much more attractive: Nirnroot is only use is in the cheap and simple invisibility potions (the fancy invisibility potions use Namira's Rot instead of Nirnroot).

I don't do low-level writs.

The point is: Is much more profitable SELL those Nirnroots in guild store than turn in the writ, and that only happens because everyday the Alchemy writ asks for 3 of those, personally I have 3 characters with alchemy, so it is 9 Nirnroots just for me. I'm sure there are ppl with more out there.

So I'm simply asking: Could ZOS please just check the repetitive alchemy writ asking the same thing over and over?

Runs

Nirnroot used to be cheap...

Then there was a guide made using it and one other cheap ingredient as the source of leveling your alchemy. When DB was released, the amount of people leveling and looking for guides on such increased. The price went up quite a bit and has continued to climb.

I don't mind it so much, but would love if some of the surveys where close enough to the water to have Nirnroot added in as a possibility. Not a sure drop... just a possible one.

Dubhliam

Actually, the only reason Nirnroot got an increased price is because of writ requirements.
If it wasn't required for a writ, it would still be trash cheap.

And no, you don't lose gold when handing in Nirnroot for writs.
Unless somehow Nirnroot on your server sells for more than 250 gold.

Drummerx04

Lifsteinn wrote: »

Everyday the alchemist writ asks for 3 Nirnroot, this is getting the Nirnroot price to high and making Alchemy Writ the most expensive by far, and also the least worth it.
Could you please add some love to Alchemy Writ?
And besides, a Alchemy Hireling would be AWESOME!

You know those daily writs are optional, right? You can just like... not do them for a couple days if you need time to gather 3 nirnroot during your travels.

helediron

Nirnroot/Water Hyacint nodes were changed in one of the latest patches. There are now nodes that spawn either nirnroot, water hyacint or water. At least on Wrothgar pure nirnroot nodes were changed to these new combined nodes. This has once again introduced node plague, where a possibly nirnroot node stays as unpicked water node. But i believe at least in Hollow City they are still pure nirnroots.

Alchemist writs have four day fixed rotation. Three quests require nirnroot and fourth requires water. It would be very easy for ZOS to change two of them to e.g. luminous russula and imp stool. There are many less used plants, as if columbine was the only possible fox for nirnroot.

I keep skipping alchemy writs because their rewards are too little. I don't bother to collect nirnroot only. BTW i find it rather often these days when i return provisioning writs in Hollow City. It looks like flower farming has collapsed after telvar flower boxes.

Prof_Bawbag

I still pick up Nirnroot only because of the writs and because of Oblivion. There's a part of me that still thinks it's this super rare and useful reagent/ingredient. If crimson nirnroot was thing I'd be the same even if it was useless in ESO.

code65536

Lifsteinn wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

And to the OP: I avoid doing low-level writs because they will sometimes ask for precious ingredients Thistle (used in weapon pots) and Corn Flower (used in spell pots). Nirnroot's prevalence in the higher-tier writs are what makes those writs so much more attractive: Nirnroot is only use is in the cheap and simple invisibility potions (the fancy invisibility potions use Namira's Rot instead of Nirnroot).

I don't do low-level writs.

The point is: Is much more profitable SELL those Nirnroots in guild store than turn in the writ, and that only happens because everyday the Alchemy writ asks for 3 of those, personally I have 3 characters with alchemy, so it is 9 Nirnroots just for me. I'm sure there are ppl with more out there.

So I'm simply asking: Could ZOS please just check the repetitive alchemy writ asking the same thing over and over?

LOL. Even the gold reward for the writ will more than cover the market value of the Nirnroot. But you also get other--more useful--alchemical mats plus a chance at surveys. Repetitive Nirnroot is what makes alchemical writs worth doing.

STEVIL

Lifsteinn wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

And to the OP: I avoid doing low-level writs because they will sometimes ask for precious ingredients Thistle (used in weapon pots) and Corn Flower (used in spell pots). Nirnroot's prevalence in the higher-tier writs are what makes those writs so much more attractive: Nirnroot is only use is in the cheap and simple invisibility potions (the fancy invisibility potions use Namira's Rot instead of Nirnroot).

I don't do low-level writs.

The point is: Is much more profitable SELL those Nirnroots in guild store than turn in the writ, and that only happens because everyday the Alchemy writ asks for 3 of those, personally I have 3 characters with alchemy, so it is 9 Nirnroots just for me. I'm sure there are ppl with more out there.

So I'm simply asking: Could ZOS please just check the repetitive alchemy writ asking the same thing over and over?

sell?

To whom?

Who is buying?

Who is paying more for nirnroot than they can get out of it? (Nor just gold v gold)

Are you confusing listed prices and sales maybe?