Bring crafting up to par with Overland sets? (jewelry crafting ...again)

Caligamy_ESO

Since the introduction of One Tamriel's dropped sets, crafting has become more underwhelming than ever. There are now 35 38 crafted sets in ESO (yes 35! 38!) but I bet it is safe to say only 3 or 4 of these sets are actually being utilized by the vast majority of players. I am not saying that these sets should be reworked to be more powerful than their dropped counterparts, but I think they should at least be put on par with them.

Imagine for a moment if the sets that were currently available to crafters had necklaces and rings, not necessarily overpowered in my opinion since there are arguably better jewelry options already out there.. but I do think this would go miles in improving the crafting experience. And they don't even need a motif style since we can't even see them anyways!

What do you think Tamriel, should jewelry crafting FINALLY be accessible to the masses? Please discuss why you would or would not like to see jewelry crafting as an addition to ESO crafting.
@ZOS_GinaBruno : help us help crafting!

Tryxus

Yes

1. Yes to Jewelry Crafting
2. Yes to Buffing the Crafted sets
3. Yes to Style Changing existing gear

Unsent.Soul

Yes

I actually had to count how many crafted sets were available, couldn't believe there are 35... so many underwhelming sets.

MCGA!

Caligamy_ESO

Yes

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

I actually had to count how many crafted sets were available, couldn't believe there are 35... so many underwhelming sets.

MCGA!

I'll admit I had to go count them too.. lol. I know as a crafter I mostly use Twice Born Star, Tava, Julianos, and Hundings... and that one oddball NB I've got in Armor Master still. I don't necessarily know if jewelry slots being available would change much for me but it would at least open up some interesting options.

LucidxNightmare

Other (explain)

We need more than just jewelry to boost crafting. I agree with @Tryxus.

bellanca6561n

Other (explain)

Actually my vote would be YES but I didn't care for the way the question was phrased

Panda_iMunch

Yes

Tryxus wrote: »

1. Yes to Jewelry Crafting
2. Yes to Buffing the Crafted sets
3. Yes to Style Changing existing gear

I second 1 and 3, 2 is agreeable, but they should try to make them more applicable or at least more unique. Quite a few crafted sets have nearly identical dropped twins, so a revamp is more inline than just a straight up buff. This is better as it would tail the power creep that is already a huge issue.

Another thing, they should try to open up the possibility to use two 5 piece sets on a staff, bow, or 2h user as the power of sets are too good to pass up atm. This would also reduce the necessity of Maelstrom and DSA weapons by providing alternatives.

Unsent.Soul

Yes

bellanca6561n wrote: »

Actually my vote would be YES but I didn't care for the way the question was phrased

There were two questions... what triggered you?

What do you think tamriel?

Or

Should jewelry finally be available to the masses?

Or was it the phrase, make "crafting" great again?

Iluvrien

Yes

ZOS has been systematically undermining crafting in favour of drops for ages.

Yes, of course they should reverse this trend. Starting with the level bonus that crafted sets used to have.

VoidBlue

Yes

I was just telling a friend that crafted sets would be amazing if it had jewelry.

acw37162

Yes

Even if they finally relent and give us jewlery crafting I fear another 20 plus skill point allocation (not terrible but not welcome) and 6 months of reasearching (which just plain sucks)

will_rob87

Yes

Absolutely yes. Jewellery crafting defo needs to be included. I would not stop there however, there is a couple of other things that need to be included/improved:
1. Bigger improvement between purple and gold
2. Vastly improved and more variety of 7/8/9 trait sets (I think the lower level crafted sets r fine and don't need to/shouldn't compete with the proc sets, but there defo needs to be more variety of end game crafted sets which are on the same level as the procs
3. Two handed weapons need to count as two item. This is a massive disadvantage at the moment

I'm sure there will be other improvements people can think of, these were just the ones I could think of at the time

NewBlacksmurf

Other (explain)

Sounds like a political campaign I don't care for but I never felt crafting was bad. There are definately opportunities to improve upon.

bottleofsyrup

Yes

Many of the crafted sets are ones nobody uses and could absolutely be revamped.

will_rob87

Yes

I think that the current crafted sets are still useful until u get to CP160 (who wants to collect a new proc set every ten levels). After that, most aren't worth the time it takes to collect the materials

illusionarythade

Yes

Always thought that the idea of researching sets would be a good way to get crafting going again.

STEVIL

Yes

Equipment crafting needs the same kind of 1T upgrade that drop sets got.



To include some or all of:

• Ability to craft jewels for the sets even if quality limited to purple. (All drops have jewel options)
  
• Ability to up-scale pieces to higher level keeping quality. (new drops scale to you)
  
• Ability to craft lower gear with higher mat, losing the lower cap on met levels. (Fits with scaled nodes)
  
• Writs to ask for ONE item with a specific trait and style, but allow more items if you dont have trait/style. (cost effective change spreads resource cost over item types.)
  
• Ability to change one of a set 2-3-4 pc bonus for another bonus of the same 2-3-4 pc type at time of crafting. (Allows for greater versatility without inventing new sets a plenty. Also can help some lesser sets.)
  
• Drop the 10x mats cost for CP160 over Cp150. (CP 160 drops everywhere now... its no longer s special threshold thing anymore. if you are cp160 every drop set is cp 160 not nine 150 and one 160. So the need for cp160 crafting to be 10x is no longer relevant.)
  

Not all of these my own but i think they go a long way for forming a comprehensive 1T upgrade/rebalance of equip crafted.



One other idea i am mulling over - for equip writs have the writ ask for a piece-style and trait but allow the use to make it at ANY tier they want. then have the 25pc box of mats MATCH that tier if no survey comes up. that provides a fairly reliable way to get mats at whatever tier you want if you only have a few.



I am not a fan of just chasing the same dragon by trying to fix it by adding some more pre-defined sets here and there.

The_Protagonist

Yes

Tryxus wrote: »

1. Yes to Jewelry Crafting
2. Yes to Buffing the Crafted sets
3. Yes to Style Changing existing gear

This

Kram8ion

Yes

Yes crafting needs some love

BlanketFort

Yes

Yes, I'd like my crafting skills to be more relevant other than going for the achievement, thank you.

DocFrost72

Yes

With a few minor exceptions, all drop sets have jewelry. If crafting is to stay relative, it too needs jewelry.

C0wrex

Yes

Would love the changes Didn't wait months on end for all 9 traits just to get it handed to me on a wooden plate.

jedtb16_ESO

Yes

jewellery crafting yes.... as a new skill.

Caligamy_ESO

Yes

STEVIL wrote: »

Drop the 10x mats cost for CP160 over Cp150. (CP 160 drops everywhere now... its no longer s special threshold thing anymore. if you are cp160 every drop set is cp 160 not nine 150 and one 160. So the need for cp160 crafting to be 10x is no longer relevant.)

God yes, so much this ^
I would love to try out several different builds I have been thinking about lately but actually gathering and implementing them is like a month long grind. As far as the writs go.. I have sadly been neglecting mine since Wrothgar release so I can't really state an opinion on them anymore.

Kendaric

Yes

Tryxus wrote: »

1. Yes to Jewelry Crafting
2. Yes to Buffing the Crafted sets
3. Yes to Style Changing existing gear

This sums it up for me, crafting needs to be on par with dropped sets again and dropped sets need a restyle option.

daswahnsinn

Yes

They need to make the stamina and magicka set pure stats. What I mean it if they are meant for stam remove the health and add regen or resource the same for magicka sets. Tank sets need to be more tanky in the since but I can't offer ideas since I haven't played a tank since 1.5.

Wolfshead

Well if the add something like WoWs Transmogrification feature then most armor and weapon style atlest i think would use more.

I read post about it on forum here that someone want and well i was agains then but more i think about it honest make more since for the are some nice carft armor in this game which never well see light of day due simple fact that if we want we need carft 160 gear score have any use of it and honest farming 940 mats to just get full 160 gear score armor do take time farm and that not count weapons.

azoriangaming

Yes

yeah it's a total joke how much time you've gotta put into to crafting and then they make most crafted sets useless

AlienSlof

Yes

Tryxus wrote: »

1. Yes to Jewelry Crafting
2. Yes to Buffing the Crafted sets
3. Yes to Style Changing existing gear

^ This. ^

will_rob87 wrote: »

Absolutely yes. Jewellery crafting defo needs to be included. I would not stop there however, there is a couple of other things that need to be included/improved:
2. Bigger improvement between purple and gold
3. Vastly improved and more variety of 7/8/9 trait sets (I think the lower level crafted sets r fine and don't need to/shouldn't compete with the proc sets, but there defo needs to be more variety of end game crafted sets which are on the same level as the procs
4. Two handed weapons need to count as two item. This is a massive disadvantage at the moment

I'm sure there will be other improvements people can think of, these were just the ones I could think of at the time

^ And This. ^

I love crafting and it needs a good revamp in all these ways.

Jimbullbee85

Yes

I'm very surprised that craftable jewelary hasn't been implemented yet. I totally agree with the OP especially when players have went through the costly and laborious process of maxing out research. We need more incentive to craft. Perhaps jewelary crafting could be unlocked when all crafting skills are rank 50.

What about the idea of having a crafting center where players that can make gear could list what they can do and advertise how much their services are going for. Not everyone wants to craft ando will pay for others to do it for them. Especially if jewelary comes into play for advanced crafters.

MakoFore

crafting should be much stronger than grinding sets- the perseverance and reward for researching traits should be superior to farming a location. i think Zos wanted to make things easier for the new player- hence the double xp bonus and the ability to quickly acquire set bonuses for newer players. u can be a noob and within a week be cp160 with a monster set, 5 piece red mountain and spriggans. for me to get to cp160 took ages and i remember wearing something dire like 2piece marksman, 3 piece leki + 2piece sithis and 2 piece endurance - a hodge podge of whatever i could get as a lowly solo player learning on my own. but it was fine because i had something to aim for and look forward to. there was a real sense of growth and progression , seeing my player get stronger and mobs get easier. now with levelling and all the new changes- i dont know.

i agree with all of what uve said PLUS i d like to see nirnohoned buffed again too. for one- its meant to be the mythic and best trait, but itsnt and secondly it would revive what is a dead area in craglorn -which also should be a haven for vets and experienced players to converge, do writs, group up for trials, etc and trade - as it once was.

they are aware of these things and actively do things to encourage areas- look at what theyre doing with orsinium this week- a clear attempt at pushing an area that has died down and to revive maelstrom. but imo there are other areas and industries that need more love and attention right now- in particular - crafting. it used to mean something to be a 9 trait crafter, now that I'm finally almost there- I'm at 8- it almost seems like a whole bunch of nothing . other than 2bs - there isn t much incentive when a spriggans or a leviathan can do almost or as well according to some number crunchers.