Really at a loss here

Egonieser

Slylok wrote: »

We need the LOL button back.

Yes, and you'd be the first to receive it.

DHale

Getting no sympathy from me, I like when the players that won't adapt or can't adapt leave I just wished I could have Thier stuff. Only two things need to be fixed for me... lag and the 1000 in game bugs.

MaxwellC

I feel the same way best remedy = newer games which I plan to get starting with.... final fantasy 15,bf1, and GoW4. Let's go!

Nyghthowler

Valencer wrote: »

Nyghthowler wrote: »

I truly, honestly wish ZoS would give the PvP'ers their own server; with all the nerfs and balancing they claim to desire and open world PvP.
But it wont happen because it would be a ghost town.

Other games have done this for the PvP community, and guess what..... they were ghost towns. The reason being; you're all a legend in your own minds. As soon as you get beaten you call for nerfs because the other player was 'cheating' some how. And then you all flock back to the standard rule set servers and try to take over.

Am I tired and bitter about listening to PvP'ers cry and eventually ruin the games I play....YES.

The gear options ruining Cyrodiil at the moment arent even a relevant thing in PvE. Wish people would stop throwing nonsense around... it's really not helping the conversation.

I dont think Ive ever seen a game where the PvEers are so hostile towards anything PvP related

I was sincere when I said I wish PvP'ers could have their own dedicated server.
I wasn't being hostile.
I was also sincere when I stated that every game that gave them their own servers quickly became ghost towns.

LaiTash

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Other games have done this for the PvP community, and guess what..... they were ghost towns.

Examples, maybe?

People want open PvP games. That's why visually outdated indie games like Albion now almost compete with $*** AAA titles like ESO.

MakoFore

they shouldd intro alliance war only weapons of a similar grade to maelstrom, for week winners- monthly winners, etc- then pvp would b bak

MakoFore

or more proceed to of control , either way

CapuchinSeven

DHale wrote: »

Getting no sympathy from me, I like when the players that won't adapt or can't adapt leave I just wished I could have Thier stuff. Only two things need to be fixed for me... lag and the 1000 in game bugs.

I love the way you said "adapt" like to adapt in ESO PVP by putting on a number of different proc set combination sets and pressing light attack (which I did, I even have a nice comical heavy armour health regen build that still deals burst on the go) takes Rocky montage like levels of skill.

DHale

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

Getting no sympathy from me, I like when the players that won't adapt or can't adapt leave I just wished I could have Thier stuff. Only two things need to be fixed for me... lag and the 1000 in game bugs.

I love the way you said "adapt" like to adapt in ESO PVP by putting on a number of different proc set combination sets and pressing light attack (which I did, I even have a nice comical heavy armour health regen build that still deals burst on the go) takes Rocky montage like levels of skill.

Got to tell you, pushing buttons in this or any game does not equal skill. Video gaming is not a skill unless you are making money at it. I don't really care if people run proc sets it is the nature of the game to change I am referring to mitigation. I make my builds so it takes multiple people to kill me. That said, proc set won't turn a bad player into a good player. I dont use proc sets yet but still kill everyone I killed before and still get killed by everyone who killed me before. It's an excuse and a bad one of why people feel the need to get in forty person groups and chase after solo players. It's why I still see magic sorcs running around... stubborn people who don't mind doing anything to get 38 ap.

Alucardo

DHale wrote: »

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

Getting no sympathy from me, I like when the players that won't adapt or can't adapt leave I just wished I could have Thier stuff. Only two things need to be fixed for me... lag and the 1000 in game bugs.

I love the way you said "adapt" like to adapt in ESO PVP by putting on a number of different proc set combination sets and pressing light attack (which I did, I even have a nice comical heavy armour health regen build that still deals burst on the go) takes Rocky montage like levels of skill.

Got to tell you, pushing buttons in this or any game does not equal skill. Video gaming is not a skill unless you are making money at it. I don't really care if people run proc sets it is the nature of the game to change I am referring to mitigation. I make my builds so it takes multiple people to kill me. That said, proc set won't turn a bad player into a good player. I dont use proc sets yet but still kill everyone I killed before and still get killed by everyone who killed me before. It's an excuse and a bad one of why people feel the need to get in forty person groups and chase after solo players. It's why I still see magic sorcs running around... stubborn people who don't mind doing anything to get 38 ap.

My complaint was never just about proc sets. Sounds to me like you're wearing heavy armor. Let's put it up against the other armor types.

Heavy: Sustain, DPS, mitigation, healing, damage, max health
Medium: Sustain, damage
Light: Sustain, damage

I watched several duels two nights ago. Obviously every stam build was in heavy armor. They'd start the fight by doing nothing but healing and tanking the damage. Once their wrath buff was full they'd unload so much damage it would melt a sorcs shields and kill them in 4-5 seconds. Heavy armor should NEVER be able to do that. It's a defensive armor type, not a damage dealer. Basically the more mitigation and healing you have, the less damage you should be doing. You have less defence? You hit harder. That's balance. At the moment it's like trying to fight Iron Man.
You see most of these heavy builds with little to no regen. Why? They don't need it. Because of that they just invest all their effort into amping their damage. Remember when people used to wear Blood Spawn? It's still a great set but it's over shadowed by damage dealing proc sets. The current meta and balance in this game is disgusting.

Slylok

Egonieser wrote: »

Slylok wrote: »

We need the LOL button back.

Yes, and you'd be the first to receive it.

It would be an honor!