"RNG".Yeah right!!!

Judgedread101071

After 300+ runs in maelstrom and having kept all of my weapons, I am certain now that your "RNG" favours bows and restos by at least 2x.
I wont even bother to post another video since none of these threads ever gets an answer.
I guess the devs are too busy closing threads they dont like.
Your "RNG" is killing the game and it has the opposite effect than the one intented.
People at some point will stop the mind-numbing grinding and either move to another game or stop playing this one.
We put the effort and all we get in return is stupid loot with stupid traits not worth even to decon them.
I know that this thread will end up in oblivion prety soon but after my second resto drop in maelstrom today i had to vent some steam.
And as for the devs I really hope that your paychecks suffer the "RNG" you are putting us through.After all "RNG" is fun as one of you potatoheads said.

Lucious90

Hey there is no ETA or magic bullet that will fix the RNG that you are experiencing, also its working on our end so can you post pics or a video of the situation that you are experiencing and maybe we can have a fix in a year or so, that might compound something else. But hey check out our hella fly new player housing!

Skinless_Jerk

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

After 300+ runs in maelstrom and having kept all of my weapons, I am certain now that your "RNG" favours bows and restos by at least 2x.
I wont even bother to post another video since none of these threads ever gets an answer.
I guess the devs are too busy closing threads they dont like.
Your "RNG" is killing the game and it has the opposite effect than the one intented.
People at some point will stop the mind-numbing grinding and either move to another game or stop playing this one.
We put the effort and all we get in return is stupid loot with stupid traits not worth even to decon them.
I know that this thread will end up in oblivion prety soon but after my second resto drop in maelstrom today i had to vent some steam.
And as for the devs I really hope that your paychecks suffer the "RNG" you are putting us through.After all "RNG" is fun as one of you potatoheads said.

As long as people have dipped into the 'bargain' crown store first before they leave the game..........

Judgedread101071

Lucious90 wrote: »

Hey there is no ETA or magic bullet that will fix the RNG that you are experiencing, also its working on our end so can you post pics or a video of the situation that you are experiencing and maybe we can have a fix in a year or so, that might compound something else. But hey check out our hella fly new player housing!

LOL, true!
But they don't even have the courtesy to answer to any of these threads even with a *** answer like that!
And tbh the fact they never answer makes more angry!

Milvan

I don't think it favours anything. The thing is that the RNG's don't follow any pattern, and it should have a algorithm to avoid repeatable loot or bad traits.

Smasherx74

I think deltia did this, and it was pretty much irrefutable proof the undaunted chest drops were favoring the two obsolete traits on everything.

Judgedread101071

Skinless_Jerk wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

After 300+ runs in maelstrom and having kept all of my weapons, I am certain now that your "RNG" favours bows and restos by at least 2x.
I wont even bother to post another video since none of these threads ever gets an answer.
I guess the devs are too busy closing threads they dont like.
Your "RNG" is killing the game and it has the opposite effect than the one intented.
People at some point will stop the mind-numbing grinding and either move to another game or stop playing this one.
We put the effort and all we get in return is stupid loot with stupid traits not worth even to decon them.
I know that this thread will end up in oblivion prety soon but after my second resto drop in maelstrom today i had to vent some steam.
And as for the devs I really hope that your paychecks suffer the "RNG" you are putting us through.After all "RNG" is fun as one of you potatoheads said.

As long as people have dipped into the 'bargain' crown store first before they leave the game..........

Yep.And dont get me wrong,I know they are running a bussines and money has to come from somewhere,but i think they are *** a terrible job and on the long run will loose money,

Judgedread101071

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I think deltia did this, and it was pretty much irrefutable proof the undaunted chest drops were favoring the two obsolete traits on everything.

And does this surprise you?
we all suffer this terrible "RNG" but they dont give a [SNIP].

[Edited for Profanity]

waterfairy

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

After 300+ runs in maelstrom..

...Your "RNG" is killing the game and it has the opposite effect than the one intented.

It seems like it's working as intended for someone like you...making you run the same content repeatedly so you won't worry about a lack of new content.

LEGENDARYYY

I myself have probably about 100 vMSA runs and have only gotten 3 daggers, two trash traits and 1 precise. I have gotten so many useless swords/maces and restorations staves I have lost count.

It's not killing my game though, as I fight for leaderboards anyways. And the fact that the vMSA weapons aren't needed to complete any content in the game.

You can pull 45k+ dps in trials without em.

Judgedread101071

LEGENDARYYY wrote: »

I myself have probably about 100 vMSA runs and have only gotten 3 daggers, two trash traits and 1 precise. I have gotten so many useless swords/maces and restorations staves I have lost count.

It's not killing my game though, as I fight for leaderboards anyways. And the fact that the vMSA weapons aren't needed to complete any content in the game.

You can pull 45k+ dps in trials without em.

I have finished vr MoL and prety much everything there is in this game mate with a cruppy maelstrom destro on my back bar.
But thats not the point i am trying to make.
The point is that once you put the effort a reward should wait for you at the end of the run and not some shity present.

DRXHarbinger

Done more than all of you combined. Looted 3 destro staves in total....about 4 daggers and axes in the useful traits...about 2 sharp mauls, 1 sharp 2h axe, few sharp bows...and I also now have 189 dwemer frames. Saving up to sell a full stack of it.

strikeback1247

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I think deltia did this, and it was pretty much irrefutable proof the undaunted chest drops were favoring the two obsolete traits on everything.

But Rich posted the real data from the undaunted chest drops which proved that the drops aren't rigged. So much for the "irrefutable proof" :^)

Judgedread101071

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Done more than all of you combined. Looted 3 destro staves in total....about 4 daggers and axes in the useful traits...about 2 sharp mauls, 1 sharp 2h axe, few sharp bows...and I also now have 189 dwemer frames. Saving up to sell a full stack of it.

And your point is?

strikeback1247

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Done more than all of you combined. Looted 3 destro staves in total....about 4 daggers and axes in the useful traits...about 2 sharp mauls, 1 sharp 2h axe, few sharp bows...and I also now have 189 dwemer frames. Saving up to sell a full stack of it.

And your point is?

L2RNG :^)

P3ZZL3

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

jakeedmundson

I just got 3 bows in a row.... the last two had the same trait.... no 1 handed weapons, no destro staff, nothing sharpened or precise, nothing really usable.

i've had 2 handed axes and bows... that pretty much sums up my experience so far in vMA.

also... i feel like they don't want to change anything for some reason. I also feel like they don't want to tell us that... if i KNEW that this horrid system would continue for vMA... I would drop eso immediately. These are the only items i haven't found in the game (that i care to find) so its frustrating to think i could literally never find a worth while item in this arena.

It needs to change.

strikeback1247

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I think deltia did this, and it was pretty much irrefutable proof the undaunted chest drops were favoring the two obsolete traits on everything.

And does this surprise you?
we all suffer this terrible "RNG" but they dont give a [SNIIP].

We don't all suffer bad rng. There are enough people with good rng, but they aren't complaining here on the forums, therefore you don't hear about them. RNG is RNG which means that some will be lucky and some will be unlucky.

Working as intended.

Haquor

I honestly dont know why people bother with vmsa anymore. I think i did like 5 runs for leaderboards the first week after they diluted the *** ouf of the loot table. My time can be much better spent.

TOKEN SYSTEM YOU PIECES OF EXCREMENT.

Judgedread101071

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

Buffler

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I think deltia did this, and it was pretty much irrefutable proof the undaunted chest drops were favoring the two obsolete traits on everything.

If you find the thread, Rich lambert came into it with a chart of deltias drops .... it was pretty even.

I hate rng as much as the next man

Judgedread101071

jakeedmundson wrote: »

I just got 3 bows in a row.... the last two had the same trait.... no 1 handed weapons, no destro staff, nothing sharpened or precise, nothing really usable.

i've had 2 handed axes and bows... that pretty much sums up my experience so far in vMA.

also... i feel like they don't want to change anything for some reason. I also feel like they don't want to tell us that... if i KNEW that this horrid system would continue for vMA... I would drop eso immediately. These are the only items i haven't found in the game (that i care to find) so its frustrating to think i could literally never find a worth while item in this arena.

It needs to change.

Just to make you feel a little bit better and keep in mind that this is from 2 weeks ago and i have even more crap now.And most my chars are magicka and all i need is fire destro sharpened



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY

Tyrion87

I know RNG hates me in this game but I'm wondering if there even is 100% RNG in vMA... I think it might be connected somehow with the number of runs you have done. During my first 20 runs I was getting only charged/powered/decisive stuff. Nothing else. Then I got one nirn flame staff and one precise lighting staff. But I've never got a sharpened weapon. Any sharpened weapon. And I doubt I will ever get one

Judgedread101071

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I know RNG hates me in this game but I'm wondering if there even is 100% RNG in vMA... I think it might be connected somehow with the number of runs you have done. During my first 20 runs I was getting only charged/powered/decisive stuff. Nothing else. Then I got one nirn flame staff and one precise lighting staff. But I've never got a sharpened weapon. Any sharpened weapon. And I doubt I will ever get one

Ohh trust me you will!!! sharpened resto, sharpened one handed. and probably sharpened maul

jakeedmundson

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

I just got 3 bows in a row.... the last two had the same trait.... no 1 handed weapons, no destro staff, nothing sharpened or precise, nothing really usable.

i've had 2 handed axes and bows... that pretty much sums up my experience so far in vMA.

also... i feel like they don't want to change anything for some reason. I also feel like they don't want to tell us that... if i KNEW that this horrid system would continue for vMA... I would drop eso immediately. These are the only items i haven't found in the game (that i care to find) so its frustrating to think i could literally never find a worth while item in this arena.

It needs to change.

Just to make you feel a little bit better and keep in mind that this is from 2 weeks ago and i have even more crap now.And most my chars are magicka and all i need is fire destro sharpened



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY

Well that didn't make me feel better... made me more frustrated to see the outlook of a hundred some runs.

and it made it very obvious to me that these items are weighted to "lesser" traits. look how many sharpened and precise 1h swords you had.... a worthless trait for a tank - and then look at how many sharpened and precise dps weapons you had... slim to none. What a joke.

You know what zos? introduce all the traits for every jewelry trial reward... force people to run vAA or vSO 100 times just to get 1 gold ring of vicious ophidian in robust. (99/100 times they will drop in ornate, arcane, etc.) no one would run those trials for that would they.... that is exactly what you're doing to vMA.

PS. i only had to run vet trials 5 or 6 times after the in group trade system came into play to find a full set of gold aether and ophidian AND yokeda jewelry. There is literally no reason you can't implement a similar system for vMA.

Judgedread101071

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

I just got 3 bows in a row.... the last two had the same trait.... no 1 handed weapons, no destro staff, nothing sharpened or precise, nothing really usable.

i've had 2 handed axes and bows... that pretty much sums up my experience so far in vMA.

also... i feel like they don't want to change anything for some reason. I also feel like they don't want to tell us that... if i KNEW that this horrid system would continue for vMA... I would drop eso immediately. These are the only items i haven't found in the game (that i care to find) so its frustrating to think i could literally never find a worth while item in this arena.

It needs to change.

Just to make you feel a little bit better and keep in mind that this is from 2 weeks ago and i have even more crap now.And most my chars are magicka and all i need is fire destro sharpened



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY

Well that didn't make me feel better... made me more frustrated to see the outlook of a hundred some runs.

and it made it very obvious to me that these items are weighted to "lesser" traits. look how many sharpened and precise 1h swords you had.... a worthless trait for a tank - and then look at how many sharpened and precise dps weapons you had... slim to none. What a joke.

You know what zos? introduce all the traits for every jewelry trial reward... force people to run vAA or vSO 100 times just to get 1 gold ring of vicious ophidian in robust. (99/100 times they will drop in ornate, arcane, etc.) no one would run those trials for that would they.... that is exactly what you're doing to vMA.

PS. i only had to run vet trials 5 or 6 times after the in group trade system came into play to find a full set of gold aether and ophidian AND yokeda jewelry. There is literally no reason you can't implement a similar system for vMA.

That would be the day to re-subscribe.

FriedEggSandwich

As a sorc I could use either a sharpened fire staff or a sharpened lightening staff, I don't mind which really. So of course this morning I got my second sharpened ice staff and my second defending inferno staff. I now have 4 inferno staves with bad traits, 3 lightening staves with bad traits but 2 ice staves with perfect traits

Judgedread101071

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

As a sorc I could use either a sharpened fire staff or a sharpened lightening staff, I don't mind which really. So of course this morning I got my second sharpened ice staff and my second defending inferno staff. I now have 4 inferno staves with bad traits, 3 lightening staves with bad traits but 2 ice staves with perfect traits

GratzBut i think lighting makes more sense for sorcs with their kind of passives.How many runs did it take mate to get those weapons?

altemriel

RNgeezus demands you to do more offerings!!! The bloody ones are prefered!!!

LegendaryArcher

I quit ESO after 300 runs of not getting a single useful weapon.

We have a guild in Black Desert with over 30 players that quit ESO solely because of not getting their vMA weapons after hundreds of runs (almost 50 ex-ESO players overall that quit for various reasons). Some of them didn't get a single Inferno after 1000+ runs. People who have been leading the leaderboards for months. Overall, I know 6 people that didn't get their Inferno after 1000+ runs, but the other 3 didn't want to come with us to BDO.

BDO has a "bad luck protection" system implemented in its RNG. Chances increase to get a certain item on the next roll when you didn't get it the previous time. But then again, BiS items are BoE there. And the chances to get something that is hard to get are equal for everyone. Never in hell would the devs hand out BiS weapons to decent players for some time and then lock them behind impossible odds for everyone else who doesn't have them yet in a later patch, like ZOS did.

You should really check out BDO to see what a good game looks like. If you also got screwed hard by vMA RNG, feel free to shoot me a private message. Always happy to have more skilled, competitive players in our BDO guild.

FriedEggSandwich

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

As a sorc I could use either a sharpened fire staff or a sharpened lightening staff, I don't mind which really. So of course this morning I got my second sharpened ice staff and my second defending inferno staff. I now have 4 inferno staves with bad traits, 3 lightening staves with bad traits but 2 ice staves with perfect traits

GratzBut i think lighting makes more sense for sorcs with their kind of passives.How many runs did it take mate to get those weapons?

I've lost count, but probably approaching 80. I have a sharpened bow, a sharpened 2h sword, a sharpened resto staff and 2 sharpened ice staves, but no sharpened inferno or lightening

Yeah I want a lightening staff to try out a netch's touch build, but you're forced to light weave with a shock staff whereas inferno will do all the medium weaves which is why I prefer it in general. Ice staff feels just as easy to weave but does slightly less damage than the other 2 I think. The ice version of the destro ult (static morph) is the most op though; if you get caught in the centre it takes 2 dodge rolls to get out. Basically I want all 3 vma staves in sharpened