"RNG".Yeah right!!!

SanTii.92

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Judgedread101071

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Ok,i ll play along.Since we both make assumption due to the lack of hard evidence (unless you are a ZOS employe and you can provide such), I base mine upon personal experience of drops (150 maelstrom weapons and the only sharpened are the restos and swords) as well as counless other "winers" like me who posted in the forums that there is something fishy going on with the loot upon examining their loot as well.
I'd like to know where your assumption is based on,
And pls dont bring up that lottery thing again!
RNG in this game is a embeded code which as i understand it can be manipulated.
And sorry if i dont trust ZOS when they say that it can't be manipulated .I am too old to be that gullible.

Vythri

I literally have no desire to invest time and effort into VMA because of the current loot system. Why even bother trying to learn the mechanics and get good enough to complete it if I could potentially never get what I'm looking for?

Why would a game developer intentionally create a system that makes players feel disheartened to the point of not even wanting to try?

Not everybody has time to run VMA every day multiple times to learn it and then complete it if you probably won't get what you want anyway. If I knew I could run it a specific number of times, even if it took a while, I'd at least know I was working toward a finish line and I'd be fine with that.

SanTii.92

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Ok,i ll play along.Since we both make assumption due to the lack of hard evidence (unless you are a ZOS employe and you can provide such), I base mine upon personal experience of drops (150 maelstrom weapons and the only sharpened are the restos and swords) as well as counless other "winers" like me who posted in the forums that there is something fishy going on with the loot upon examining their loot as well.
I'd like to know where your assumption is based on,
And pls dont bring up that lottery thing again!
RNG in this game is a embeded code which as i understand it can be manipulated.
And sorry if i dont trust ZOS when they say that it can't be manipulated .I am too old to be that gullible.

You Sir suffer with a Confirmation bias which is "the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively". And also "The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position."

If you or anyone else start to record thoughtfully every single drop and trait combination, I'm sure you'll quickly desestimate all these claims.

Rev Rielle

I must admit I chuckle at all these doom and gloom and complaint threads about rng. Numbers are such a funny thing, and so many people misunderstand them.

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Cannot agree more. RNG is what it is, half the problem is people not understanding how it actually works.

Judgedread101071

Vythri wrote: »

I literally have no desire to invest time and effort into VMA because of the current loot system. Why even bother trying to learn the mechanics and get good enough to complete it if I could potentially never get what I'm looking for?

Why would a game developer intentionally create a system that makes players feel disheartened to the point of not even wanting to try?

Not everybody has time to run VMA every day multiple times to learn it and then complete it if you probably won't get what you want anyway. If I knew I could run it a specific number of times, even if it took a while, I'd at least know I was working toward a finish line and I'd be fine with that.

You are making some good points there.
But tbh after playing this game since launch there are few things after a while that present a challenge,maelstrom being one of them.
The fact remains though that for the really hard content of the game (vr MoL hard mode which is the only thing i haven't completed) and if you dont want to be a liability to your group you REALLY need those maelstrom weapons combined either with moondancer or infalable aether (which are rare as fu** as well),

Judgedread101071

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Ok,i ll play along.Since we both make assumption due to the lack of hard evidence (unless you are a ZOS employe and you can provide such), I base mine upon personal experience of drops (150 maelstrom weapons and the only sharpened are the restos and swords) as well as counless other "winers" like me who posted in the forums that there is something fishy going on with the loot upon examining their loot as well.
I'd like to know where your assumption is based on,
And pls dont bring up that lottery thing again!
RNG in this game is a embeded code which as i understand it can be manipulated.
And sorry if i dont trust ZOS when they say that it can't be manipulated .I am too old to be that gullible.

You Sir suffer with a Confirmation bias which is "the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively". And also "The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position."

If you or anyone else start to record thoughtfully every single drop and trait combination, I'm sure you'll quickly desestimate all these claims.

LOL there you go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY


And since its an old video i can assure you that i have even more crap in my inventory now.
And you sir if you dont see a pattern in there, then you ll never get what us "winers" are talking about.

SanTii.92

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Ok,i ll play along.Since we both make assumption due to the lack of hard evidence (unless you are a ZOS employe and you can provide such), I base mine upon personal experience of drops (150 maelstrom weapons and the only sharpened are the restos and swords) as well as counless other "winers" like me who posted in the forums that there is something fishy going on with the loot upon examining their loot as well.
I'd like to know where your assumption is based on,
And pls dont bring up that lottery thing again!
RNG in this game is a embeded code which as i understand it can be manipulated.
And sorry if i dont trust ZOS when they say that it can't be manipulated .I am too old to be that gullible.

You Sir suffer with a Confirmation bias which is "the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively". And also "The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position."

If you or anyone else start to record thoughtfully every single drop and trait combination, I'm sure you'll quickly desestimate all these claims.

LOL there you go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY


And since its an old video i can assure you that i have even more crap in my inventory now.
And you sir if you dont see a pattern in there, then you ll never get what us "winers" are talking about.

And what am I looking here? At first glance seems like tratis are somewhat evenly distribuited..
Mind sharing a break down? can't count them at work.

Judgedread101071

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Ok,i ll play along.Since we both make assumption due to the lack of hard evidence (unless you are a ZOS employe and you can provide such), I base mine upon personal experience of drops (150 maelstrom weapons and the only sharpened are the restos and swords) as well as counless other "winers" like me who posted in the forums that there is something fishy going on with the loot upon examining their loot as well.
I'd like to know where your assumption is based on,
And pls dont bring up that lottery thing again!
RNG in this game is a embeded code which as i understand it can be manipulated.
And sorry if i dont trust ZOS when they say that it can't be manipulated .I am too old to be that gullible.

You Sir suffer with a Confirmation bias which is "the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively". And also "The effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs. People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position."

If you or anyone else start to record thoughtfully every single drop and trait combination, I'm sure you'll quickly desestimate all these claims.

LOL there you go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZulDvY6PNwY


And since its an old video i can assure you that i have even more crap in my inventory now.
And you sir if you dont see a pattern in there, then you ll never get what us "winers" are talking about.

And what am I looking here? At first glance seems like tratis are somewhat evenly distribuited..
Mind sharing a break down? can't count them at work.

count the sharpened ones mate.and if you take out the "convinient" ones on restos and swords ( the useless ones which no one uses) tell me whats left.
But if you argue that sharpened is sharpened no matter on wich weapon then you win, but I still refuse to be that quillible.

Bao1340

Im a magsorc and I've done it 3 times and i got sharpen mace and a shield the first time. Then ice nirn staff and charged inferno staff. I was hoping for bow or resto staff for my other character.

Judgedread101071

Bao1340 wrote: »

Im a magsorc and I've done it 3 times and i got sharpen mace and a shield the first time. Then ice nirn staff and charged inferno staff. I was hoping for bow or resto staff for my other character.

Really hope you get luckier than me mate.

jedtb16_ESO

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

G0ku

suggestion: install a trophy chamber where you can get your desired item for 100.000 alkahest

Judgedread101071

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

jedtb16_ESO

G0ku wrote: »

suggestion: install a trophy chamber where you can get your desired item for 100.000 alkahest

how about fish instead... i've got lots of those

bellanca6561n

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

The fact remains though that for the really hard content of the game (vr MoL hard mode which is the only thing i haven't completed) and if you dont want to be a liability to your group you REALLY need those maelstrom weapons combined either with moondancer or infalable aether (which are rare as fu** as well),

That's overstating it. Or, rather, it's stating it for one subgroup of players.

All graphical DikuMUDs have a strong bias toward combat. Thus you'd have to be either daft or a masochist to play one in the hope of occupying your time in a non combat role.

But I too have played this game since the beta and all that, and I never take on the hard content. Nor do the people I play with. Too much stress and, even after 30 years of playing online games, I'm not much of a combat player.

Given that few can doubt that the majority of ESO players never play group content - can't be sure as ZOS doesn't go around sharing their analytics data with the press - just getting people to play regular group dungeons can be an effort.

Not saying you're full of it. Not at all. RNG loot outcomes should simply not apply to a nested, single player game within a WoW inspired MMO aimed at a minority of players who will either torture themselves or leave because they absolutely believe they must have what it offers.

Corrosive.

jedtb16_ESO

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Judgedread101071

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Oh yes it's very difficult to understand that random is random.
Maybe what you dont get is that their random is not quite random.
If u think that random consists everything else except divines or sharpened then what can i say.
Countless the threads about this wierd "RNG" which favours s h i t y traits and all you say that random is random.
For the last time if it IS random then why is it that most ppl dont get divines on armor or sharpened on weapons more often than other traits?
Hmmm... leet me guess your answer : random is random right?

spectre303

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Ok,i ll play along.Since we both make assumption due to the lack of hard evidence (unless you are a ZOS employe and you can provide such), I base mine upon personal experience of drops (150 maelstrom weapons and the only sharpened are the restos and swords) as well as counless other "winers" like me who posted in the forums that there is something fishy going on with the loot upon examining their loot as well.
I'd like to know where your assumption is based on,
And pls dont bring up that lottery thing again!
RNG in this game is a embeded code which as i understand it can be manipulated.
And sorry if i dont trust ZOS when they say that it can't be manipulated .I am too old to be that gullible.

i've done about 50 runs maybe less i have 2 sharp lightning staves, 3 sharp 2H, sharp resto, 3 sharp daggers, 1 sharp axe, l think i even have some sharp S+B weapons but dont use em so not sure on traits. point being its random and you're just unlucky. theres no conspiracy to hide the truth about maelstrom drops. All that said, i'd really like a sharpened inferno staff still. guess ill keep doing maelstrom runs.

Judgedread101071

spectre303 wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

SanTii.92 wrote: »

We could discuss if Rng system is is too layered, too detrimental for the enjoyment of the game or just a flawed system all togheter.. But please stop with this nonsense of rigged drops, has to be one the stupidest notions ever made on this forums.

Ok,i ll play along.Since we both make assumption due to the lack of hard evidence (unless you are a ZOS employe and you can provide such), I base mine upon personal experience of drops (150 maelstrom weapons and the only sharpened are the restos and swords) as well as counless other "winers" like me who posted in the forums that there is something fishy going on with the loot upon examining their loot as well.
I'd like to know where your assumption is based on,
And pls dont bring up that lottery thing again!
RNG in this game is a embeded code which as i understand it can be manipulated.
And sorry if i dont trust ZOS when they say that it can't be manipulated .I am too old to be that gullible.

i've done about 50 runs maybe less i have 2 sharp lightning staves, 3 sharp 2H, sharp resto, 3 sharp daggers, 1 sharp axe, l think i even have some sharp S+B weapons but dont use em so not sure on traits. point being its random and you're just unlucky. theres no conspiracy to hide the truth about maelstrom drops. All that said, i'd really like a sharpened inferno staff still. guess ill keep doing maelstrom runs.

Mehh i give up!!
Of course there is rng involved up to a point and of course there are people who get sharpened weapons!!!!!!!!!Never said otherwise!! Hell i even have sharpened restos and swords as i earlier said!
But YOU my friend along with a few others are a minority.And if you bring yourself as an example i can lead to you to @Decado who after 1000+ runs never got a sharpened firestaff. Not to mention counless other guildies with 200+ runs and still no destro sharpened.
So your point is: random is random right?
Okies then you got me covered.

jedtb16_ESO

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Oh yes it's very difficult to understand that random is random.
Maybe what you dont get is that their random is not quite random.
If u think that random consists everything else except divines or sharpened then what can i say.
Countless the threads about this wierd "RNG" which favours s h i t y traits and all you say that random is random.
For the last time if it IS random then why is it that most ppl dont get divines on armor or sharpened on weapons more often than other traits?
Hmmm... leet me guess your answer : random is random right?

right.

Judgedread101071

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Oh yes it's very difficult to understand that random is random.
Maybe what you dont get is that their random is not quite random.
If u think that random consists everything else except divines or sharpened then what can i say.
Countless the threads about this wierd "RNG" which favours s h i t y traits and all you say that random is random.
For the last time if it IS random then why is it that most ppl dont get divines on armor or sharpened on weapons more often than other traits?
Hmmm... leet me guess your answer : random is random right?

right.

sure

Solus

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I think deltia did this, and it was pretty much irrefutable proof the undaunted chest drops were favoring the two obsolete traits on everything.

And does this surprise you?
we all suffer this terrible "RNG" but they dont give a [SNIIP].

We don't all suffer bad rng. There are enough people with good rng, but they aren't complaining here on the forums, therefore you don't hear about them. RNG is RNG which means that some will be lucky and some will be unlucky.

Working as intended.

To elaborate on this. I have always had good RNG luck. I dont know why or how. It just happens. Probably the downfall is you're completing something trying to get a specific thing, where you need to just do it for FUN (shocker) and you will be surprised with what you want eventually. Like i got both masks in under 1 hour on the first day of the halloween event, i have 10 bloody mara recipes, and an extra mask. Picked up 3 sharp spriggan daggers, 2 sharp maces, 10 sharp bows, all three Xivkin polys in under 20 blue imperial chests (not even kidding) and each stack of 200 mats i usually pull 5-8 gold mats.

OP: you just need to not care so much and learn to enjoy all of it no matter what the outcome is. You will have more fun that way and you will randomly just get what you want, be surprised when it happens and the feels when it does are better than getting so upset over the: " i did this 'X' amount of times and got NOTHING!"

notimetocare

Never had a single bow in 50+

jedtb16_ESO

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Oh yes it's very difficult to understand that random is random.
Maybe what you dont get is that their random is not quite random.
If u think that random consists everything else except divines or sharpened then what can i say.
Countless the threads about this wierd "RNG" which favours s h i t y traits and all you say that random is random.
For the last time if it IS random then why is it that most ppl dont get divines on armor or sharpened on weapons more often than other traits?
Hmmm... leet me guess your answer : random is random right?

right.

sure

ok... you and me play a game. the chance of winning is 1 in 100000.

we play 6764 times, you have won eight times i have won twice.

who is most likely to win on the 6765th time?

BlackEar

We need a token system Zos, please we are hurting.

SanTii.92

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Oh yes it's very difficult to understand that random is random.
Maybe what you dont get is that their random is not quite random.
If u think that random consists everything else except divines or sharpened then what can i say.
Countless the threads about this wierd "RNG" which favours s h i t y traits and all you say that random is random.
For the last time if it IS random then why is it that most ppl dont get divines on armor or sharpened on weapons more often than other traits?
Hmmm... leet me guess your answer : random is random right?

Read again the confirmation bias.

Solus

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Oh yes it's very difficult to understand that random is random.
Maybe what you dont get is that their random is not quite random.
If u think that random consists everything else except divines or sharpened then what can i say.
Countless the threads about this wierd "RNG" which favours s h i t y traits and all you say that random is random.
For the last time if it IS random then why is it that most ppl dont get divines on armor or sharpened on weapons more often than other traits?
Hmmm... leet me guess your answer : random is random right?

right.

sure

ok... you and me play a game. the chance of winning is 1 in 100000.

we play 6764 times, you have won eight times i have won twice.

who is most likely to win on the 6765th time?

My bet is you both lose.

Reason being is you have better odds getting the right weapon with the right trait from the new sets via WB drop (1/1152 chance, if you wonder how i got that number, you take the amount of sets (3) times that by all of the weapon/armor types that can drop (16) times that by the number of possible traits (8) and then times that by the number of qualities in the loot table (3) and that gives you 1152, so if you are looking for ONE of those items, every time you roll the dice you have a 1/1152 chance to get the item you are looking for. This does not include unique items.) and its still extremely difficult to actually get any of those weapons if you arent lucky

Judgedread101071

Solus wrote: »

strikeback1247 wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I think deltia did this, and it was pretty much irrefutable proof the undaunted chest drops were favoring the two obsolete traits on everything.

And does this surprise you?
we all suffer this terrible "RNG" but they dont give a [SNIIP].

We don't all suffer bad rng. There are enough people with good rng, but they aren't complaining here on the forums, therefore you don't hear about them. RNG is RNG which means that some will be lucky and some will be unlucky.

Working as intended.

To elaborate on this. I have always had good RNG luck. I dont know why or how. It just happens. Probably the downfall is you're completing something trying to get a specific thing, where you need to just do it for FUN (shocker) and you will be surprised with what you want eventually. Like i got both masks in under 1 hour on the first day of the halloween event, i have 10 bloody mara recipes, and an extra mask. Picked up 3 sharp spriggan daggers, 2 sharp maces, 10 sharp bows, all three Xivkin polys in under 20 blue imperial chests (not even kidding) and each stack of 200 mats i usually pull 5-8 gold mats.

OP: you just need to not care so much and learn to enjoy all of it no matter what the outcome is. You will have more fun that way and you will randomly just get what you want, be surprised when it happens and the feels when it does are better than getting so upset over the: " i did this 'X' amount of times and got NOTHING!"

Really happy for you mate ,i trully am.
But whenever someone says "good RNG' and they dont see the fault of that statment or the fact thats its either RNG or its not,then probably you lost the whole meaning of the thread.

jedtb16_ESO

Solus wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Judgedread101071 wrote: »

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

RNG is a funny Mistress it is true.

I've done less Plunder Skulls than a buddy of mine (both in the 100's) and I've had 7 Hat drops and he got his first last night

I decided to go try and get Spinner rings a couple of nights ago. 2 hours later, had 3 purple rings and a necklace. Since then, nothing Purple of any interest across countless bosses and dolmens.

That being said, I do certainly get my fair share of Prosperous and Training out of the Undaunted chests There's another guildy who is desperately after one set, and needs the shoulders. Since wanting it and running it with her, I've had 3 pieces of what she wants, 2 of them Divines!

I think the answer is to want something really bad that is useless to you, and maybe the RNG gods will be fooled and actually give you want you want

Well the thing is that since this is a game , all players should be treated equally if they put the same amount of effort because you end up with ppl who got what they wanted in 10-20 runs and others who never did and thats really unfair!!

random isn't fair..... it's random.

there is no predictability or pattern.

someone may buy a million lottery tickets and not win... someone else buys one and gets the mega jackpot

because it is random....

no predictability no pattern....

you run one it has no effect on the next time you run

you run a billion none of them have any effect on the others....or the next

because it's random.

just because you tossed a head this time does not mean you will get a tail next time..... even though it's 50/50

it's random.

ehhhmm ok

well, i tried..... but your response indicates that you do not understand the concept.

hey, not just you though..... all the others bemoaning it as well.

Oh yes it's very difficult to understand that random is random.
Maybe what you dont get is that their random is not quite random.
If u think that random consists everything else except divines or sharpened then what can i say.
Countless the threads about this wierd "RNG" which favours s h i t y traits and all you say that random is random.
For the last time if it IS random then why is it that most ppl dont get divines on armor or sharpened on weapons more often than other traits?
Hmmm... leet me guess your answer : random is random right?

right.

sure

ok... you and me play a game. the chance of winning is 1 in 100000.

we play 6764 times, you have won eight times i have won twice.

who is most likely to win on the 6765th time?

My bet is you both lose.

Reason being is you have better odds getting the right weapon with the right trait from the new sets via WB drop (1/2560 chance) and its still extremely difficult to actually get any of those weapons if you arent lucky

at least one other person gets it

the chance for each is 1 in 100000 the previous results have no bearing

1 in 100000 for a win = 99999 chances of not winning.

if only people paid a bit more attention to maths at school..... life would be so much easier.