Ranking Classes From Best to Worst (Faso)

Hexys

No idea why people here are voting magicka templars as 'strong'. In 1vX or small scale your killing potential is really low, tanking and healing doesn't mean strong, at least in my opinion. Strong is when you can actually kill people fast and efficient. In which stamblade is the strongest.

For duels it comes to down to stambuilds, 1h/s black rose trapdbos blocking vamps.

Kas

Yuke wrote: »

I have to test out this US server it seems.

my EU cancer opinion for this:

1. procblade
2. malucancertemp
3. sDK/sSorc
4. mDK/mSorc/sPlar
5. mNB

agree, maybe with 2. and 3. also procblade and 4. eternal cancer sprinters

GreatWhite000

Not sure how stamplar only made number 3: 8% damage reduction + 32% healing received, 6% weapon damage, free damage from burning light, and repentance/novas for group support make it a pretty damn strong class. Only thing I'd say is better is stam sorc for its mobility. It's hard to run from 30 people on a stamplar.

Kas

GreatWhite000 wrote: »

Not sure how stamplar only made number 3: 8% damage reduction + 32% healing received, 6% weapon damage, free damage from burning light, and repentance/novas for group support make it a pretty damn strong class. Only thing I'd say is better is stam sorc for its mobility. It's hard to run from 30 people on a stamplar.

1) relatively few stamplars even use the focus (probably because building your house and staying inside just works better on magcka builds). plus it'd a ig circle telling your enemy "drop rearming trap here". i currently play with it, but i'm tempted to drop it, tbh
2) no hurricane/resources back on ult+helping hands/incap+sa+ambush is something you REALLY feel. no access to the major armor debuff (except for 1h/s taunt) and the minor one on a really *** spell (bets thing about it is that it clutters your enemies screen ^^).
3) landing jabs is neither easy nor reliable. there's quite a number of stamplars that still prefer dizzy swing. only if you use and land jabs you get significant extra damage from burning light
4) nova is nowhere nearly as good for grp support as a negate

don't get me wrong. stamplar is incredibly strong. but so are all stamina builds and while stamplars have access to awesome buffs, they don't have to many "all-in-one" abilities (e.g. SA is a spammable and main debuff, incap is superb damage + buff + defile, dk ults also take care of resource management). a stamplar has great tools but needs to use them individually.

Apherius

Alucardo wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Seeing majica blades so low making me sad . Hopefully my new build will improve opinions when finished .

Naw I wouldn't say they deserve the last spot. They're probably harder to play than most classes (maybe with the exception of mDK), but they're a pretty well balanced class in general if played right, which I'm sure you do!

difficult ? xD , .

magicka sorc : - 5 skill main dps --> frag ---> force pulse ( no magicka spam ability class ) --> velocious curse --> liquid lightning ( very good dot )--> elemental blockade
- 1 finisher --> Mage's wrath
- 1 mana management skill -->dark conversion ( give ... mana , 1 sec of activation , 10% mana per activation and you can't cut him with a bar switch) .
- 1 Destruction staff aoe ---> worst aoe of the game , big cost for a sorcerer : remember ! if we want mana , we have to spam our dark conversion . and you can do 5 aoe with kena , and after you are dead .
- OH , and 0 spot , because we have the bound aegis that take 2 spot in our bar , we must choose between these skills , and if you want a pet .. just invoke him in 3,5 sec , and watch him die in 1 sec . because we are the best summoner class \o/

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magicka Nb : - 4 skill main dps --> merciless resolve ---> swallow soul --> crippling grasp--> elemental blockade
- 1 finisher --> impale ( very good )
- 1 mana management skill --> siphonning attack ( infinite mana , instant activation and lasts 15 seconde and you can cut him with a bar switch ).
- 1 class aoe --> big cost but ... very good damage , very good heal , and remember : magblade with sipphoning attack = infinite mana , you just need to cut your aoe with a light attack . And you can aoe with your kena proc !
- OH , and 1 spot , if you want play with a other skill or something else , like a dark shades that you can activate in 1 sec , and is invincible .

Now say me that the magicka nb is difficult , he have a easier gameplay , and please ... don't talk me about pvp skill or heal sorcerer or tank nb ect ... because i talk about the Magicka NB dps pve in raid , and the magicka Sorcerer dps pve in raid AND their gameplay . ( i don't say that the magicka sorcerer is bad . he have just a poor gameplay , but his dps is good , except in aoe . ) .

just for specifiy , i'm not edgy i'm totaly calm , this is just a peaceful comment.

Darnathian

Zeuq wrote: »

didn't chief beat Germantrocity in a MagSorc v MagSorc duel the first time Chief every played his Sorc in PvP? That's what I thought #LongLiveChief

Would love to have seen that. It determined who was better with CE

Alucardo

Mr_Nobody wrote: »

Magicka templars are the only ones that have a class based gap closer which does not work at all like in 1.6 or even worse.

This is why magplar should be on the bottom of the list and is potentially the hardest class to play. I get killed because of the toppling charge bug at least 2-3 times a day.

RinaldoGandolphi

I could be on board with this list.

MagickDK and Magic Sorc are kinda tied for bottom feeder status for different reasons. Magicka DK lacks damage and mobility, Magic Sorc is just too squishy and suffers the most from Light Armor being no armor and the inability to create any distance for a class focused soley on delayed damage and range.

Saying one magic build is better then another in the current stamina overload phase is like comparing which brand of toilet paper you prefer using over another before you flush it down the hopper after use.

KisoValley

I can just see ZOS overbuffing magicka builds when they focus on them again in the next major patch after 1 tamriel. Soon we will wee gods vs gods in pvp rather than gods vs peasants.

dashima

mchermie wrote: »

Stam NB has still a lot of potential, but most people in this game use it as a cowardly ganker(from stealth) atm and kinda ruins how people see the class

Potential at what? I've been a little frustrated at this class for awhile because it's only viable with extreme meta sets, like black rose, velidreth, vicecannon, etc. Obviously it's possible to play without them but try and 1v1 an equally skilled heavy armor magplar or a black rose/viper stamdk in something like medium hundings and you'll have a very bad time.

Stamblade has a few things going for it like fear, a cc that goes through block, and a flexible instant cast dps but even with all of this it ends up one of the worst classes in PvE and the weakest stamina class in PvP. You're literally better off being any other stamina class in the game instead of stamblade, because the other classes do everything better.

There's always gonna be ganking and people will always assume stamblade is #1 because they're the best at it, but what other roles can stamblade play? They're worthless in groups and lack build diversity. They are decent at 1vXing but it's often frustrating with unreliable skills aka cloak and shadow image.

It might be more of a gear issue than a class issue but idk... I love stamblade very much but don't see a reason why I should play a stamblade over something like stam sorc.

Daggerfall_Bones

Asmael wrote: »

1. God tier player
2. Friggin' awesome player
3. Very good player
4. Good player
5. Ok player
6. Meh player
7. AP bag / likes red circles / light attack spammer
8. Disconnected mid-fight

This one seems the most accurate.

Thelon

Alucardo wrote: »

magplar should be on the bottom of the list and is potentially the hardest class to play.

Synozeer

Hektik_V wrote: »

You're not a no lifer until you have a GO and an August Palatine

<-- no lifer

LOL, that's exactly what I have as well.

Solariken

Fasoo wrote: »

1. Stam Sorc
2. Stam Dk
3. Stam Templar
4. Stam Nb
5. Magicka Templar
6. Magicka Dk
7. Magicka Sorc
8. Magicka Nb


ya. I'm not good #fixmagsorc

That's not a bad general ranking. Of course it doesn't include the cheesy outliers like procblades and reactivemaluplar, but the moral of the story is that stamina > magicka.

My biggest frustration with the current situation across the board is that I feel somewhat forced into building for cancerous burst or cancerous mitigation and hybridization/utility is generally not competitive. Most of my characters are mitigation machines because it lessens the amount of time spent riding my horse.

JamieAubrey

Enter's thread, see's main ( Magicka Sorc #7 ) leaves this comment and closes thread :P

RadioheadSh0t

It's too bad that ZOS really missed the mark with the Destruction Staff ultimate. That could've gone a long way to make Magicka more competitive, and I can't imagine there will be too many people running it.

Taking Dawnbreaker completely away from Magicka builds and making it scale only off physical was a mistake. Meteor is far too easy to counter, and unless you time your streak/frag perfectly it can be useless, not to mention the meta now requires so much burst so quickly that it's rendered even less effective. I use Dawnbreaker still just because it's a better way you can burst down those Heavy BOL-Bots. They can burst heal through just about any situation, it's really pretty absurd.

The shield nerf, the surge Nerf, the countless Streak nerfs, have made my main class since beta much less potent. Sure, I can still 1vX somewhat effectively, and I still can take on groups of multiple people by myself, but I'm far from optimal in an age of cancer builds. Not to mention all it takes is my shield to fall down for an instant and I'm like a turtle out of its shell.

Magicka_DK

As long as a certain streamer plays it they are all terrible....Not gonna name names around here

SanTii.92

Stamplar contest first and at very least is a secured second.