Ranking Classes From Best to Worst (Faso)

Fasoo

1. Stam Sorc
2. Stam Dk
3. Stam Templar
4. Stam Nb
5. Magicka Templar
6. Magicka Dk
7. Magicka Sorc
8. Magicka Nb


ya. I'm not good #fixmagsorc

caeliusstarbreaker

Woo hoo we are number 3 you guys!!!

KisoValley

Decent.

susmitds

Best rating I have seen in a while.

Soris

Armitas

What does the ranking represent? Dueling, solo roaming, all around, ganking, etc

Thelon

balanced

dashima

Can I extend this list?
Going from Meh --- Okay --- Good --- Great --- Best:

Stam Dk
Best in PvE
Best in 1v1
Great in 1vX
Good for group play

Stam Sorc
Best in PvE
Great in 1v1
Best in 1vX
Best for group play

Stam Templar
Okay in PvE
Great in 1v1
Best in 1vX
Okay for group play

Stam Nb
Okay in PvE
Okay in 1v1
Great in 1vX
Meh in group play

Magicka Templar
Great in PvE
Great in 1v1
Great in 1vX
Best for group play

Magicka Dk
Good in PvE
Great in 1v1
Meh in 1vX
Best for group play

Magicka Sorc
Great in PvE
Great in 1v1
Okay in 1vX
Good for group play (if only cus negate)

Magicka Nb
Good in PvE
Okay in 1v1
Meh in 1vX
Great for group play

Feel free to disagree/correct, this is just imo.

Yuke

I have to test out this US server it seems.

my EU cancer opinion for this:

1. procblade
2. malucancertemp
3. sDK/sSorc
4. mDK/mSorc/sPlar
5. mNB

manny254

The irony of you QQ is that Magicka Sorc is currently the most balanced Magicka class. Balanced does not mean what most stam builds have been buffed up to. Balance means having very good reasons to play something, but that hard counters exist. Making choices between offensive play, and defensive play.

Faso you do not want sorc to be balanced. You want it to be OP. You want ZoS to buff everything to the stupid point of stam builds instead of actually balancing the game. Anyone with any intelligence can see that overall stam builds are out of control, but we need to bring those back to Earth instead of recreating the same thing. If we continue with this we will see more and more power creep.

Zeuq

This list is wrong you put mDK at #6 instead of #1

nlevesque3

I keep hearing that stam is OP right now, but I haven't really seen much evidence of this.
Maybe I'm just not running into the same enemies you guys are in Cyrodiil (PC NA campaigns), but I haven't really found any specific stam/mag or class combination that blows away the rest.

Anybody have more information? I'm just trying to understand the problem better... but things certainly feel balanced in PvP/PvE right now, maybe with some more tweaks needed here and there.

Minno

nlevesque3 wrote: »

I keep hearing that stam is OP right now, but I haven't really seen much evidence of this.
Maybe I'm just not running into the same enemies you guys are in Cyrodiil (PC NA campaigns), but I haven't really found any specific stam/mag or class combination that blows away the rest.

Anybody have more information? I'm just trying to understand the problem better... but things certainly feel balanced in PvP/PvE right now, maybe with some more tweaks needed here and there.

13% physical dmg reduction, 15% overall dmg reduction, 30k physical resistance, 3k shield; still gets hit by 6k incap strike/dizzying swing.

Publius_Scipio

Faso stopped hugging Sribes' leg long enough to finally make sense.

I've been a stamina NB since inception. And I can tell you right now that in the current meta stam NB is really only OP/viable/fun (pick your choice of description) when taken to its extreme meta with current gear sets. Stamina NB is kind of a joke when trying to battle these tanks and stam sorcs in PvP right now. Not to mention, I have to attempt a trial like maelstrom as a stam NB.....

Beepbeep

To make this more meaningful you need to include gear sets. Running sets like Malubeth, Reactive, Velidreth, Blackrose will matter.

Also, it depends on what class YOU are playing. From my experience, as a bad MagPlar, this is what kills me the most:

2H/Bow abilities - so only Stam specific, not class specific - especially with poison crap
Stam Nightblade abilities - usually ganked from stealth - we all know the combo
Magicka Sorc class abilities - usually from behind a Stam class smashing me with Dizzying Swing or from a safe distance in a group

So, my ratings might be different.

I am sure my experience would also be far different if I ran a different build like Malubeth/Reactive/Trans instead.

Really, the only thing you can say at this point is that in general all Stam classes >>> all magicka classes. However, the reality is that all stam gear sets >>>> all magicka gear sets. Although Stam classes will always have the edge since run speed, break free and dodge are all stam based abilites that are crucial in PvP.

Kartalin

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I've been a stamina NB since inception. And I can tell you right now that in the current meta stam NB is really only OP/viable/fun (pick your choice of description) when taken to its extreme meta with current gear sets. Stamina NB is kind of a joke when trying to battle these tanks and stam sorcs in PvP right now.

That's the truth right there. I generally only play my stamblade as a ganker right now when running solo, otherwise I'm on magplar.

LeifErickson

I'm sorry but how do you think that Magicka DK is better than Magicka Sorc? Magicka Sorc is actually good. I don't see how Magicka DK is better than Sorc at all. I don't get why this community thinks Magicka Sorc is so bad. It feels strong to me.

Publius_Scipio

Kartalin wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I've been a stamina NB since inception. And I can tell you right now that in the current meta stam NB is really only OP/viable/fun (pick your choice of description) when taken to its extreme meta with current gear sets. Stamina NB is kind of a joke when trying to battle these tanks and stam sorcs in PvP right now.

That's the truth right there. I generally only play my stamblade as a ganker right now when running solo, otherwise I'm on magplar.

And you expected something different? Of course it's the truth. I'm the one that typed it.

thankyourat

LeifErickson wrote: »

I'm sorry but how do you think that Magicka DK is better than Magicka Sorc? Magicka Sorc is actually good. I don't see how Magicka DK is better than Sorc at all. I don't get why this community thinks Magicka Sorc is so bad. It feels strong to me.

I think it matters how you are playing. mag dk has crazy crowd control in group play and great at being a tank if they have support. In solo play mag sorc is definitely better. Mag dk it's horrible for solo play. Solo players will always have different rankings for classes than players who play in a group because most of the time we play with no support so a class strengths and weakness really show up when you play solo

laksikus

thankyourat wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I'm sorry but how do you think that Magicka DK is better than Magicka Sorc? Magicka Sorc is actually good. I don't see how Magicka DK is better than Sorc at all. I don't get why this community thinks Magicka Sorc is so bad. It feels strong to me.

I think it matters how you are playing. mag dk has crazy crowd control in group play and great at being a tank if they have support. In solo play mag sorc is definitely better. Mag dk it's horrible for solo play. Solo players will always have different rankings for classes than players who play in a group because most of the time we play with no support so a class strengths and weakness really show up when you play solo

in that case mag nb shouldnt be last, cos every group can use a good timed fear.
mag nb is pretty good in groups: refreshing path, fear, running away in cloak to put up a camp, bomb swarm combo.

Overall in group, mag chars are pretty high on the list. i would put stamplar and stam nb on the bottom of group play

1. stam sorc
2. magplar
3. mag nb
4. mag sorc
5. mag dk
6. stam dk
7. stamplar
8. stam nb

Master_Kas

dashima wrote: »

Can I extend this list?
Going from Meh --- Okay --- Good --- Great --- Best:

Stam Dk
Best in PvE
Best in 1v1
Great in 1vX
Good for group play

Stam Sorc
Best in PvE
Great in 1v1
Best in 1vX
Best for group play

Stam Templar
Okay in PvE
Great in 1v1
Best in 1vX
Okay for group play

Stam Nb
Okay in PvE
Okay in 1v1
Great in 1vX
Meh in group play

Magicka Templar
Good in PvE
Great in 1v1
Great in 1vX
Best for group play

Magicka Dk
Great in PvE
Great in 1v1
Meh in 1vX
Best for group play

Magicka Sorc
Okay in PvE
Great in 1v1
Okay in 1vX
Good for group play (if only cus negate)

Magicka Nb
Good in PvE
Okay in 1v1
Meh in 1vX
Great for group play

Feel free to disagree/correct, this is just imo.

Thanks for writing my feelings about magicka nb

Apherius

Fasoo wrote: »

1. Stam Sorc
2. Stam Dk
3. Stam Templar
4. Stam Nb
5. Magicka Templar
6. Magicka Dk
7. Magicka Sorc
8. Magicka Nb


ya. I'm not good #fixmagsorc

hum hummmmmm hummmmmmmmm .

it's your point of view ( #frenchexpression ) but i prefer:

1.stam sorc
2.stam dk
3.stam nb
5.magicka DK
4.magicka templar
7.magicka NB
8. magicka sorc

you classify them about the dps in a RAID ? right ?

for the 7 and the 8 ... i'm not totally sure , but ... i keep thing that the magicka NB have more dps in a long fight because he have infinite mana and can play with the seconde piece of the kena always .

BUT for the 5 and the 4 , i'm totally sure that the dk is more powerful that the magicka templar but maybe i have wrong .

SleepyTroll

Funny how stam sorc went from "the worst" to the literal best in one patch.

Fasoo

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manny254 wrote: »

The irony of you QQ is that Magicka Sorc is currently the most balanced Magicka class. Balanced does not mean what most stam builds have been buffed up to. Balance means having very good reasons to play something, but that hard counters exist. Making choices between offensive play, and defensive play.

Faso you do not want sorc to be balanced. You want it to be OP. You want ZoS to buff everything to the stupid point of stam builds instead of actually balancing the game. Anyone with any intelligence can see that overall stam builds are out of control, but we need to bring those back to Earth instead of recreating the same thing. If we continue with this we will see more and more power creep.

you're contradicting yourself...

I said "fix" magsorc because stamina is out of control and magicka sorc is in a really bad spot and has been for awhile. if they nerfed stamina that would be "buffing" sorc as sorcs become better due to other classes becoming weaker. Idgaf how they make Magicka and Stam on equal footing, whether it be buffing magicka or nerfing stamina. No *** Stamina builds are out of control, that's why they are 1-4 on this list. I literally never commented on how they should change the balance I just made a list with my classic #fixmagsorc signature because wow.. I'm a magicka sorc and I like to joke

This is also an irrelevant post because I'm pretty sure you've never played magicka sorc, and if you have it most definitely wasn't for an extended period. there are many issues with the class which is why no one plays it lol. If it was such a balanced well done class more people would be playing it.

You don't even know me. I'm just having fun by making a list. You think this is your life. Stop attacking me over a video game dude

Fasoo

Armitas wrote: »

What does the ranking represent? Dueling, solo roaming, all around, ganking, etc

I based this on a mixture of everything really. I think Stam Sorc come out on top due to its great 1vX style , its burst in 1v1 and its utility and dps within group. and for the next etc etc etc

I did prioritize solo play as the most important as I find it to show the most balance, in terms of individual strength in the class.

manny254

Fasoo wrote: »

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manny254 wrote: »

The irony of you QQ is that Magicka Sorc is currently the most balanced Magicka class. Balanced does not mean what most stam builds have been buffed up to. Balance means having very good reasons to play something, but that hard counters exist. Making choices between offensive play, and defensive play.

Faso you do not want sorc to be balanced. You want it to be OP. You want ZoS to buff everything to the stupid point of stam builds instead of actually balancing the game. Anyone with any intelligence can see that overall stam builds are out of control, but we need to bring those back to Earth instead of recreating the same thing. If we continue with this we will see more and more power creep.

You think this is your life.

Dude you made a thread, and threatened to "Kill yourself" if "Magicka sorc was not fixed."

So I really don't think you can try to make that argument.

ku5h

StamNB over MagTemplar........hardly!

Fasoo

manny254 wrote: »

Fasoo wrote: »

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manny254 wrote: »

The irony of you QQ is that Magicka Sorc is currently the most balanced Magicka class. Balanced does not mean what most stam builds have been buffed up to. Balance means having very good reasons to play something, but that hard counters exist. Making choices between offensive play, and defensive play.

Faso you do not want sorc to be balanced. You want it to be OP. You want ZoS to buff everything to the stupid point of stam builds instead of actually balancing the game. Anyone with any intelligence can see that overall stam builds are out of control, but we need to bring those back to Earth instead of recreating the same thing. If we continue with this we will see more and more power creep.

You think this is your life.

Dude you made a thread, and threatened to "Kill yourself" if "Magicka sorc was not fixed."

So I really don't think you can try to make that argument.

yeah I was being serious. I'm totally not a troll. nah, sribes, and the gang of us are all dead serious individuals invested in making this game better EVEN at the cost of our own lives. didn't you hit Grand Overlord like a year ago? yeah..... you're more invested than me. My character that I've had for 2 years is a centurion. You don't win this argument manny

Izaki

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Funny how stam sorc went from "the worst" to the literal best in one patch.

It took 1 skill. Hurricane baby.

manny254

Fasoo wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Fasoo wrote: »

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manny254 wrote: »

The irony of you QQ is that Magicka Sorc is currently the most balanced Magicka class. Balanced does not mean what most stam builds have been buffed up to. Balance means having very good reasons to play something, but that hard counters exist. Making choices between offensive play, and defensive play.

Faso you do not want sorc to be balanced. You want it to be OP. You want ZoS to buff everything to the stupid point of stam builds instead of actually balancing the game. Anyone with any intelligence can see that overall stam builds are out of control, but we need to bring those back to Earth instead of recreating the same thing. If we continue with this we will see more and more power creep.

You think this is your life.

Dude you made a thread, and threatened to "Kill yourself" if "Magicka sorc was not fixed."

So I really don't think you can try to make that argument.

yeah I was being serious. I made it as a joke. I hadn't been on in over a month at the time of that post. didn't you hit Grand Overlord like a year ago? yeah..... you're more invested than me. My character that I've had for 2 years is a centurion. You don't win this argument manny

You did not win any argument, and you assertion has no validity. You can not turn my success, and your stagnation to give either of us less or more validity. You took what I said as a personal attack, and that shows how you really feel on the matter. Enjoy your time making threats to end your own life over a video game, but I do not view that as funny joke. So please continue to have your laughs with that, but I will not

Fasoo

manny254 wrote: »

Fasoo wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Fasoo wrote: »

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manny254 wrote: »

The irony of you QQ is that Magicka Sorc is currently the most balanced Magicka class. Balanced does not mean what most stam builds have been buffed up to. Balance means having very good reasons to play something, but that hard counters exist. Making choices between offensive play, and defensive play.

Faso you do not want sorc to be balanced. You want it to be OP. You want ZoS to buff everything to the stupid point of stam builds instead of actually balancing the game. Anyone with any intelligence can see that overall stam builds are out of control, but we need to bring those back to Earth instead of recreating the same thing. If we continue with this we will see more and more power creep.

You think this is your life.

Dude you made a thread, and threatened to "Kill yourself" if "Magicka sorc was not fixed."

So I really don't think you can try to make that argument.

yeah I was being serious. I made it as a joke. I hadn't been on in over a month at the time of that post. didn't you hit Grand Overlord like a year ago? yeah..... you're more invested than me. My character that I've had for 2 years is a centurion. You don't win this argument manny

You did not win any argument, and you assertion has no validity. You can not turn my success, and your stagnation to give either of us less or more validity. You took what I said as a personal attack, and that shows how you really feel on the matter. Enjoy your time making threats to end your own life over a video game, but I do not view that as funny joke. So please continue to have your laughs with that, but I will not

Or maybe I don't play as much as you hahaha.

If I sat at my computer all day playing eso I'd be a grand overlord too. But I like to have IRL connections and be healthy, and do relevant things in actual life. You do you but I don't have the time to be a grand overlord. That's a time accomplishment; hence why you are a lot more invested than me. I don't think anyone is going to argue that a grand overlord is more invested in this game than a low rank pvp player. Lol. You got me with your obvious attempt to use a higher level of grammar to talk down to me though! Good job! ;O

Your accomplishments in eso don't translate to real life; stop acting like you are better than me in some way. That's honestly depressing.

I took it as a personal attack, when you literally said my name and commented in a negative way.

I did enjoy my joke on the forums, unlike you I can have fun and mess with myself. i guess that's what happens when you reach grand overlord on eso, it sucks all the joy out of you. Endless hours of yelling at your computer and furiously typing away on forums and in whispers. You constantly tell yourself you're the best, that you matter. You go to bed dreaming of eso, you wake up and immediately step up to your desktop , thinking to yourself "only 1 million AP to grind today. I can do this, I can finally matter". You stay within the virtual confines of elder scrolls online so you don't have to think of yourself as anyone else but "Mojiican, the grandest warrior to ever live"

I could care less whether you have laughs. The laughs are meant for the people that can take the satire of saying I'm going to do something drastic over something that matters so little. It's dry cut humor. Again, I don't care.