Please return the milegate scaffolding

BFT88

No

God_flakes wrote: »

Scaffolding is what is used as a platform to build a building. Scaffolding is NOT stairs. So unless the Pts is showing no stairs to get to the top floor, you guys are all overreacting. Are you sure the actual STAIRS are gone?

Yes but without scaffolding, there's nothing to support the stairs, stairs are gone too.

God_flakes

No maybe just the scaffolding platform is gone and accompanied silly cage beneath it. Are you positive the stairs are gone and the 3rd floor is inaccessible?

Recremen

Yes

God_flakes wrote: »

No maybe just the scaffolding platform is gone and accompanied silly cage beneath it. Are you positive the stairs are gone and the 3rd floor is inaccessible?

Yes, extremely positive.

God_flakes

Recremen wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

No maybe just the scaffolding platform is gone and accompanied silly cage beneath it. Are you positive the stairs are gone and the 3rd floor is inaccessible?

Yes, extremely positive.

Hmmmph. Wonder why they did that. So second floor is open but no more third floor goofing off?

BFT88

No

God_flakes wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

No maybe just the scaffolding platform is gone and accompanied silly cage beneath it. Are you positive the stairs are gone and the 3rd floor is inaccessible?

Yes, extremely positive.

Hmmmph. Wonder why they did that. So second floor is open but no more third floor goofing off?

Saramis already said why they did it and what exploit could be done on the third floor, and I even quoted it in a reply in an attempt to get people to read it.

But alas, no one reads.

Skyy

Yes

I'm kinda for getting rid of the crap down at ground level, but it would be nice to still have access to the third floor.

Skyy

Yes

BFT88 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

No maybe just the scaffolding platform is gone and accompanied silly cage beneath it. Are you positive the stairs are gone and the 3rd floor is inaccessible?

Yes, extremely positive.

Hmmmph. Wonder why they did that. So second floor is open but no more third floor goofing off?

Saramis already said why they did it and what exploit could be done on the third floor, and I even quoted it in a reply in an attempt to get people to read it.

But alas, no one reads.

Are you talking about where people could get onto invisible platforms in the air, because I think that would have been better served with a few more of their invisible walls they have everywhere.

BFT88

No

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

there was an exploit where players could take the camp on the 3rd floor forever without cooldown, seen alot of these "get good" players exploit the crap out of it so ofcourse zenimax would just remove the roof, since when can they bugfix anything or just ban the exploiters

^this

Recremen

Yes

BFT88 wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

No maybe just the scaffolding platform is gone and accompanied silly cage beneath it. Are you positive the stairs are gone and the 3rd floor is inaccessible?

Yes, extremely positive.

Hmmmph. Wonder why they did that. So second floor is open but no more third floor goofing off?

Saramis already said why they did it and what exploit could be done on the third floor, and I even quoted it in a reply in an attempt to get people to read it.

But alas, no one reads.

I think people read it, but are dismissing it as a ridiculous claim. I mean, maybe it's possible, but I haven't seen it, there are no videos around of it, what proof is there that it exists at all?

FriedEggSandwich

Yes

The wooden scaffolding hasn't always been an obstacle, they made it an obstacle several patches ago, as in they have changed its position from what it was at lauch to a less favourable position. Still it wasn't an issue once you knew it was there. I doubt the removal of the scaffolding was due to the struts obstrucing the path seeing as they chose to make it worse in the past.

FriedEggSandwich

Yes

God_flakes wrote: »

Scaffolding is what is used as a platform to build a building. Scaffolding is NOT stairs. So unless the Pts is showing no stairs to get to the top floor, you guys are all overreacting. Are you sure the actual STAIRS are gone?

Scaffholding is just a temporary framework to support people working on a permanent structure, it can include stairs. They actually call it scaffolding in the patch notes.

ZOS_BrianWheeler

We hear you and will be looking at this change gang!

BFT88

No

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We hear you and will be looking at this change gang!

Thank you!

Orchish

Yes

Yes please bring it back, there is no harm in players going up on the third floor since we all can easily access it and its always fun to fight around the gates.

It really wasn't an issue so bring it back please.

Recremen

Yes

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We hear you and will be looking at this change gang!

I don't care what anyone says about you, Mr. Wheeler, you're my hero.

juhasman

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We hear you and will be looking at this change gang!

You can take scaffording and tower doors off when battlegrounds and arenas will be released but for now please dont take away things that allows people with brains who dont like zerging to get adventage over much larger group of enemies thx for smart using enviroment.

Ghostbane

Yes

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We hear you and will be looking at this change gang!

Ta Brian.

LegendaryChef

Yes

Think this is the first time in a long time I've seen a poll actually make a difference on the changes upcoming but let's hope it's the start of a new trend!

GG, @ZOS_BrianWheeler.

GreenSoup2HoT

Yes

LAAAAAAAAAAAME.

This change sucks. Im unaware of any bugs or expoits associated with the scaffolding but the third level was very fun to use.

I kind of wish there were more towers and buildings between major traffic routes though. The gates and bridge are very fun. We need more buildings.

Overall this change is bad.

Astanphaeus

Yes

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We hear you and will be looking at this change gang!

Thank you. Though if you can get rid of the wooden cage of regret on the stairs, that would be awesome.

Vaoh

Yes

Soooooooo....... WHY did they nerf scaffoldings???

I've seen exactly zero threads asking to nerf scaffoldings. What is the reasoning for this ZOS?

jimijac0me

Yes

Exploited mentioned earlier in the thread would be my guess

Joy_Division

Yes

Now this is dumb.

I can see getting rid of the tower doors because going through stuns/disarms players and makes it unfair, but there is absolutely no unfair gameplay with the scaffolding.

RadioheadSh0t

Yes

Apparently scaffolding was messing with some people's "immersion."

Maybe if we say the massive class imbalances are ruining our "immersion" it will actually get fixed.

Grunim

Yes

I'm glad they'll be revisiting removing the scaffolding altogether. I do hope they can make it a tad easier to pass through the bottom part where many of us get stuck when trying to pass through the gate on a full speed mount.

I've had some great third floor fights at the Ash milegate so hopefully they can redesign the scaffolding so we don't get stuck but can access all floors.

dimensional

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Apparently scaffolding was messing with some people's "immersion."

Maybe if we say the massive class imbalances are ruining our "immersion" it will actually get fixed.

Except that the imbalances aren't massive, that is you conflating a problem entirely out of proportion and whining.

RadioheadSh0t

Yes

dimensional wrote: »

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Apparently scaffolding was messing with some people's "immersion."

Maybe if we say the massive class imbalances are ruining our "immersion" it will actually get fixed.

Except that the imbalances aren't massive, that is you conflating a problem entirely out of proportion and whining.

Yup, you're right. What a convincing, thorough argument.

Magicka and Stamina are completely balanced, and are definitely performing on equal levels on the PTS.

Heavy Armor is definitely not the current meta.

All the new armor sets are great, and definitely not weighted towards Heavy Armor Stamina users.

Buff Templars and Radiant.

And I'm definitely not being sarcastic. Definitely.

Thanks for your articulate wisdom.

Docmandu

The getting stuck in the cage when it first appeared was super annoying, but by now think most people know the structure.. and the easy fix would be to remove the cage.. ie. rework the structure but keep the extra level.

There needs to be some places you can take cover.. even if it means you get roller blades rolling around a rock 24/7.

DHale

Yes

People were vexed at getting stuck in it not that it was not fun to fight on.

Enodoc

Recremen wrote: »

Here is a picture of the Ash Milegate as it appears on PTS. No third-floor access, way less fun.

Have you got a picture from Live? I can't work out what's missing