I was given screenshot evidence alleging that Cheat Engine is still alive and well... -_-

KenaPKK

I was contacted in game by an old friend who wants to see CE fully eradicated from the game. He said that there is a workaround for using CE that bypasses ZOS's ban systems (there are systems now, right?). He said he's tested it by giving himself 999,999 max stamina and 2 shotting IC district bosses with Caltrops ticks. Apparently 1 million max stam crashed the game. He gave me the following screenshots, which he made while we were talking on ts, to share.

No food buff, CE disabled:

Food buff applied, CE disabled, Ransack tooltip shown:

CE enabled, over 90k stamina, Ransack tooltip shown. Notice that the max magicka didn't change between the last screenshot and this one. ONLY the stamina stat changed. I don't know how else to explain this...

I have no proof or evidence that these were made today, but I trust my friend and want to get ZOS looking into this. I am under the impression that ZOS has systems in place to detect CE, and I hope I'm not wrong. If there's a workaround, it must be dealt with. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno Can someone at ZOS pm me about this? I have detailed instructions in screenshots for how to do the workaround but do not want to post them here.

Alcast

CE is still active.

ZOS is only checking for some stats like ulitgen for example. Recovery and all that other stuff you can buff up to 1mil and nobody will care.

There is no Anti-CE system active.

To fully kill CE, you would need a GUARD system active on your own PC. That would cost millions to develop and that is why non will be developed. $$$$$$$$$

incognito222

Thank you for bringing this up for everyone to see OP, as this pretty much strengthens the suspicion of many that CE use is still prevalent even after the recent CE armageddon.

For those who insist on using CE (albeit on the down low to avoid detection), I hope you get caught and banned permanently this time. We as a community are sick of cheaters running rampant despite fair warning and second chances given.


@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_KaiSchober , @ZOS_MattFiror

Please look into this. We as a community are 100% behind you to set things straight.

Minalan

Alcast wrote: »

CE is still active.

ZOS is only checking for some stats like ulitgen for example. Recovery and all that other stuff you can buff up to 1mil and nobody will care.

There is no Anti-CE system active.

To fully kill CE, you would need a GUARD system active on your own PC. That would cost millions to develop and that is why non will be developed. $$$$$$$$$

Millions? You've got to be kidding me.

What it comes down to is that they have exceptionally sh**ty computer scientists working there.

I can think of a dozen things off hand that can be done to help, just more defensive coding in the app.

kevlarto_ESO

It's a shame the cheat engine is still so rampant in the game I see it every day in PvP I just don't understand why people want to use it it takes no skill to kill people with cheat engine and then once you get caught and do not use it you have no skill because you rely on that crutch but in the end I believe this will cost zos a lot of customers and will probably be the reason I end up leaving this game along with a lot of people I know as well we are pretty sick of seeing the cheating in this game. It sucks the fun right out of the game. Too bad something can't be done to the people that developed this piece of crap program

Pomaikai

I haven't played at all in the past 3 days because I was so disgusted by all of the rampant cheating.

Dubhliam

Once a cheater, always a cheater.

#MakePermabansPermanent

Manpoints

Dubhliam wrote: »

Once a cheater, always a cheater.

#MakePermabansPermanent

I wish bro.

I've been 100% critical of ZOS through all of this, I think its stupid this has gone on since launch, then they unbanned hackers, but really turned a corner when I saw them standing by permanent bans of hackers, sometimes even well known players...but this...this just makes me all confuzed...I THOUGHT WE WERE PAST THIS ZOS

Cazzy

This thread will probably get closed but there is a group on facebook where we're discussing it

https://www.facebook.com/groups/PvPExploiters/

Aztlan

Thank you for bringing this to light. I'm a casual player in Cyrodiil, and even I have had a sense that there's been more cheating over the past week or so. The cheaters must be caught and banned. CE must be stopped. It's ruining the game for everyone.

KingMagaw

InB4 a Z0$ thread sweeper closes this subject for damage limitation and/or suspends the OP/posters for bringing bad light on ESO.

I can also attest CE is still active on a daily basis. The coding for ESO is pure dirt enabling client side trust. Whoever thought that was a good idea is pure brain dead. Not fixing this and closing topics is NOT the right way to go about it.


Lets face it, Z0$ incompetence and inaction to handle cheating in ESO, is simply attracting more cheaters and exploiters to the game. They don't even permaban anyone, just let them back after x days. No integrity and the stance is from pure greed.



Crown sale on, which are rare, when there is a known bug that changing racial passives you end up keeping the original one and the new one, rinse and repeat for all passives. Coincidence?, i think not.

Nifty2g

Most of you are just spreading lies, a friend of mine tried using it on a sub account a little bit every day to see what would happen, increasing all types of stats etc, after about 2 weeks the account got shut down

So yes they do have an anti cheat system

MishMash

Personally, I just do not see why anyone would want to be a cheat. Those that abuse the system someday will not have the ability to do so. Lets see how well they fair then. Hopeful it happens soon.

mb10

lmao and PC players have the nerve to attempt to make fun of console.

Your game is a mess full of cheaters.

code65536

Nifty2g wrote: »

after about 2 weeks the account got shut down

So yes they do have an anti cheat system

Seems rather slow.

Nifty2g

code65536 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

after about 2 weeks the account got shut down

So yes they do have an anti cheat system

Seems rather slow.

Better than nothing

Manpoints

Do you mean...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/277867/turn-down-the-auto-ban-system/p1

"He's my friend, I'm often talking to him and talking about how to improve time, he has videos of all of his runs and everything.
The fact alone he has so much video evidence, this type of post is just ignorant."

???

Mady

There should be instant perma bans for using CE. Even IP/Hardware bans. No second chances. End.

Nifty2g

Manpoints wrote: »

Do you mean...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/277867/turn-down-the-auto-ban-system/p1

"He's my friend, I'm often talking to him and talking about how to improve time, he has videos of all of his runs and everything.
The fact alone he has so much video evidence, this type of post is just ignorant."

???

no, i said spare account

Elsonso

code65536 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

after about 2 weeks the account got shut down

So yes they do have an anti cheat system

Seems rather slow.

Depends on your perspective. Some companies do quarterly or monthly "ban waves". Some ban immediately. ZOS seems to be quietly doing it, on a schedule and with a criteria that we have not yet determined.

As long as it gets done.

Dubhliam

Nifty2g wrote: »

Most of you are just spreading lies, a friend of mine tried using it on a sub account a little bit every day to see what would happen, increasing all types of stats etc, after about 2 weeks the account got shut down

So yes they do have an anti cheat system

That does not mean ZOS has everything covered.
One explanation could also be that their "anti-cheat" system only searched for certain value increases (ultimate for example, since Meteor Armageddon was the thing that fired up the playerbase), while neglecting other sanity checks.

Nifty2g

Dubhliam wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Most of you are just spreading lies, a friend of mine tried using it on a sub account a little bit every day to see what would happen, increasing all types of stats etc, after about 2 weeks the account got shut down

So yes they do have an anti cheat system

That does not mean ZOS has everything covered.
One explanation could also be that their "anti-cheat" system only searched for certain value increases (ultimate for example, since Meteor Armageddon was the thing that fired up the playerbase), while neglecting other sanity checks.

No, nothing he was using was out of control, it was changing values in speed by little bits, magicka and regen etc, the person didn't play any content just signed on for like 30minutes minutes a few days for 2 weeks.It was nothing like 100000 magicka/stamina with infinite ultimate etc. The email specifically said the program was used.
I am pretty sure they have a program to detect forms of cheating

ZOS_PeterT

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