NA PC BWB: Third Times A Charm

vamp_emily

Valen_Byte wrote: »

For one, byte never ran over a 10 man group this entire week. We crowned 3 back to back family members. My son, my wife and myself. You tell me how we did that without strategies, tactics and a little skill.

3 bars AD, 1 bar DC. No strategy, tactics, or skill needed.

The last DC was dethroned, and a new AD was crowned, the population was 3 bars AD, 1 Bar DC.

I really need a HUGE LOL button if you think that took strategy, tactics, and skill.

Stridig

I'm so glad I'm not very good at this game. Seems like lots of extra stress. For me that would make this game very difficult to enjoy.

ŞσƦѦ

You didn't really show anything that hasn't already been discussed except for intentionally leaving out when EP fought and reclaimed BRK when AD attacked it for around an hour as well as intentionally leaving out the many attacks EP launched on Aleswell from Aleswell farm (though your last screenshot shows some of it).

From what I can tell based on your screenshots that you intentionally posted in an order that best suits your narrative (the last screenshot should have been the first for instance), EP went for emperor. Did you have a point?

In regards to the dethrone, AD tried all day and night to dethrone until I went to bed. They tried drawing us from Aleswell by taking Glade, Rayles, Warden, etc and DC leadership informed everyone of the obvious plan to draw us from Aleswell and we didn't flinch. We were not "out-maneuvered".

Now whenever during the day while people were at work or early morning while people were sleeping (I wasn't on since I was doing such things at such times) the emp got dethroned, perhaps you out-maneuvered the population who was online at that time or perhaps you just zerged them to death as usual.

I cannot comment on that since I wasn't there. I can say that such attempts failed miserably the entire day and night that I was online.

Also note that within your own screenshots you show EP attacking their home keep of Drakelowe and reclaiming it then AD attacking it again during the dethrone so you're only supporting the actual truth (what I said) about EP attacking AD at their home keeps. Guess you forgot to leave that SS out.

Adenoma

Yeah, @Stridig - I'm just glad I have fun playing this.

And @vamp_emily , I'm not quite so neurotic to screenshot it, but when we dethroned 'Pem in Pink and throned @Valen_Byte and @Vyle_Byte 's son it was even population with all alliances at three bars.

I'll second what @Valen_Byte is saying about AD's organization and I think @EdmundTowers spoke a little to that as well. I've been really impressed with AD zone lately. A lot of the earlier zone guilds really haven't been running, but now that IOTE has started up it's been really fun to coordinate with them and several others. Realistically, I don't think that the population advantage that AD has is insurmountable, but I think that AD has a couple people to whom I'm grateful for doing an excellent job of picking people out of zone and putting bodies in the right places with the right direction.

I mean, IOTE even has been doing training for their players - which knocks the hell out of whatever I've heard of any AD BwB doing for new members. Typically, it's just learning on the fly and not dedicated time out of combat.

Two thumbs up to you folks!

Valen_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

For one, byte never ran over a 10 man group this entire week. We crowned 3 back to back family members. My son, my wife and myself. You tell me how we did that without strategies, tactics and a little skill.

3 bars AD, 1 bar DC. No strategy, tactics, or skill needed.

The last DC was dethroned, and a new AD was crowned, the population was 3 bars AD, 1 Bar DC.

I really need a HUGE LOL button if you think that took strategy, tactics, and skill.

You couldnt be more wrong about the pop this week. I literaly played every day for 15 plus hours a day. Only time I saw dc 1 bar was yesterday after we crowned my son.

Freakquent

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Freakquent wrote: »

Anyone that paid money for the game can do anything that they want as long as isn't against the Terms and Agreements. Whether it is zerging, soloing, PVEing, or just doing your own thing around Tamriel. Nobody has any right to put others down if they choose to zerg or not, it's very childish and stupid. Can't take getting zerged down? Don't PVP. Can't take getting ganked by soloers? Don't PVP. It comes with the game.

I know closed minded people seem to think that the world is black and white, however, the "if you don't like it leave" attitude does not apply here & for the most part does not apply in the real world either. I will not be leaving the game because of AD's zergs, and I will not be leaving the thread because AD attempts to gang up on me here either. If you notice almost every (every but let's say almost to be fair) post in opposition to mine is from an AD player.

Putting all of that aside, you have come here in attempt to white knight the little zerglings & have said "putting others down because they zerg is childish and stupid", yet in your little paragraph you are putting me down because of my opinion. You have contradicted yourself and defeated yourself, however, I will also point out that the topic of AD zerging sprung from one of the AD zerglings attempting to put someone else down for swapping campaigns to avoid the zergs for a little while. I don't believe I need to say anything else. Good day sir.

I'M the closed minded one? Okay Good to know

Valen_Byte

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Then I wanted to crown my son and did.

ur son plays? thats awesome that u guys have done a family thing

Actualy all 5 of us play! We have 3 children who all have there own accounts. The youngest is 10 : ))

ŞσƦѦ

Valen_Byte wrote: »

[Sure ill share the truth. The truth is one of my main leads left to start his own guild months ago and I have not ran a full group since. Just dont have the drive lately. Also he has done a great job of picking up the loose players and giving them a target.

As for me and you 1v1, 1v2 wgatever. Dont care. Sare your clips all you want.

Point is sora, I set my sights on getting emp this week and I did. Then I wanted to crown my wife and we did. Then I wanted to crown my son and did. Proof is in the puding buddy. So deny all you want. We royaly smoked you this week. Im sure DC will bring a better game next week. : ))

YOU didn't. The yellow sea did. Again, stop attempting to take credit for what multiple 24man zergs did. YOU have been proven and even just admitted you cannot even kill 1 player by yourself or duo (trio too but you left that out) so stop saying what YOU did. AD crowned emp 3 times this week. Nothing new, with such an overwhelming population advantage at all hours of the day and night I'm surprised you guys ever get dethroned... let alone 3 times in one week.

vamp_emily

Adenoma wrote: »

Yeah, @Stridig - I'm just glad I have fun playing this.

And @vamp_emily , I'm not quite so neurotic to screenshot it, but when we dethroned 'Pem in Pink and throned @Valen_Byte and @Vyle_Byte 's son it was even population with all alliances at three bars.

Right before Pem got dethroned I was at Ales crying because very few people showed up. Then someone mentioned we just don't have the population. I looked and we had 1 bar pop, and you guys had 3 bars, and we were even talking in chat about it being a weekend and only having 1 bar. I told everyone we might as well just take a break because can't defend Chal with that population.

I personally would like to see pop lock across the board, this population imbalance is ruining the fun in BwB.

ŞσƦѦ

Valen_Byte wrote: »

You couldnt be more wrong about the pop this week. I literaly played every day for 15 plus hours a day. Only time I saw dc 1 bar was yesterday after we crowned my son.

Since all 3 of you crowned this week and you had to remain close to eachother in AP to pass eachother, are you saying that your family spends 15 hours a day playing video games?

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vamp_emily

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Since all 3 of you crowned this week and you had to remain close to eachother in AP to pass eachother, are you saying that your family spends 15 hours a day playing video games?

Hmmm.. i think ESO needs to launch an investigate something on AD side.

Three players in the same family, crowned Emp. Wonder if there was any trade kills, account sharing/cheating going on?

ŞσƦѦ

vamp_emily wrote: »

I personally would like to see pop lock across the board, this population imbalance is ruining the fun in BwB.

They don't win due to their very obvious overwhelming population advantage. Haven't you read? They win based on "skill" and "strategy".

I had a funny experience this week. I was on a lvl 10 AD on my way to IC to open some jewelry chests and I noticed a player spamming AD chat with "type zerg for zerg". The player was named Zergball or something zergy like that. Zergball Vi I think? I think when I moused over his name it said Redsky or something (lol)? I typed zerg just for the heck of it and got an addon's auto invite into a full zerg. It was quite interested who I found in that zerg.

Hey @Adenoma, do you remember who all was in that zerg before you guys went full rage-mode? I specifically remember there being 2 players who explicitly for months told me that they never zerg and are always in small strategic groups coordinating with others and moving the map without needing the aid of zergs to support them. Do you know which players they were... hmm.. I can't for the life of me remember... I know I have the screenshot somewhere...

Valen_Byte

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

[Sure ill share the truth. The truth is one of my main leads left to start his own guild months ago and I have not ran a full group since. Just dont have the drive lately. Also he has done a great job of picking up the loose players and giving them a target.

As for me and you 1v1, 1v2 wgatever. Dont care. Sare your clips all you want.

Point is sora, I set my sights on getting emp this week and I did. Then I wanted to crown my wife and we did. Then I wanted to crown my son and did. Proof is in the puding buddy. So deny all you want. We royaly smoked you this week. Im sure DC will bring a better game next week. : ))

YOU didn't. The yellow sea did. Again, stop attempting to take credit for what multiple 24man zergs did. YOU have been proven and even just admitted you cannot even kill 1 player by yourself or duo (trio too but you left that out) so stop saying what YOU did. AD crowned emp 3 times this week. Nothing new, with such an overwhelming population advantage at all hours of the day and night I'm surprised you guys ever get dethroned... let alone 3 times in one week.

Getting dethroned in the middle of the night is exactly what we wanted you to do so thanks. We wouldnt have been able to do it without that peice of the puzzle.

Its compleatly up to the faction in the end, weather ir not someone gets crowned. I have seen lots of player be at the top and not get crowned just because the players didnt like them. Happend to you if I remember right.

I never said I couldnt 1v1 or 1v2. Not sure where you got that. In fact it happens all the time. Just like it does to everyone else. Show the vids if you like. I dont remember you ever killing me but then again I dont care if you did either. Im not impressed with your play in game or on the forums.

Ugh...

ŞσƦѦ

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Getting dethroned in the middle of the night is exactly what we wanted you to do so thanks. We wouldnt have been able to do it without that peice of the puzzle.

Its compleatly up to the faction in the end, weather ir not someone gets crowned. I have seen lots of player be at the top and not get crowned just because the players didnt like them. Happend to you if I remember right.

Are you referring to my first week of playing ESO in the first campaign I was in where some people didn't push for emp because I refused their selfish request for me to let them pass me on the leaderboard so they can be handed emp instead of earning it? The week that I did gain emp and did it by leading my own pug and taking the crown myself? I do remember that. The following week was the week I also decided to leave AD because I had no fun being on a faction that wins solely based on population. Also, it's getting hard to read your posts due to the many glaring grammatical errors. Would you mind right clicking the red underlined words and fixing them before submitting the post?

I must say, I found it a nice touch to claim getting dethroned is what you WANTED. That allows you to make others believe that you controlled everything. Anything that happens is what you WANTED. Good one. I'm sure no one will see through that facade (lol).

vamp_emily

I want to see a few 1v1 fights.

Sora vs Valen_Byte
I think Valen said Sora picked the most cheesy class and all he does is cloak. Ever since then I have always wanted Sora to fight Valen 1v1.

Sora vs Adenoma
I think Adenoma is a beast, I just want to see if Sora can beat him.

Emily vs Freakquent
For some reason I want to kill this person.

W0lf_z13

vamp_emily wrote: »

Sora vs Adenoma
I think Adenoma is a beast, I just want to see if Sora can beat him.

Adenoma def has a few builds that are crazy ... this would actually be an interesting fight

Adenoma

Uh, I've never claimed that I don't zerg. I've played in friends zergs when they asked me to join. I've lead zergs when I've been frustrated that nobody was (for example, dethroning you a couple weeks ago). I've even zerged nearly exclusively when I started playing PvP.

Now to address what I've said in the past, I've told you that 6-8 people isn't a zerg when I've ran my small groups. But you've told me that I'm zerging when I was playing with one or two friends. Even if we're in the proximity of any other AD, according to you we are zerging.

I've definitely moved map with my guild by ourselves, but all of our hardest pushes are when we are distracting something so that a larger group can take a primary objective - I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a member of my guild or a leader of another AD guild who would contradict that.

On a lesser note, do you think that if you tell us that we're angry or raging that we'll get angry? Let me tell you something I have told you before, but you have trouble understanding - if I'm not having fun in this game I'll just not play. I don't rage in game, and I don't rage out of game. I just logoff and do something else.

Also, Zergball Vi is not redsky.

Just a suggestion for those like Sora or @vamp_emily who say that they aren't having fun and have problems with the state of the campaign - you realize that you don't have to play BwB. There are multiple other campaigns where you can play. Maybe those are places that you can either have more fun or feel more challenged. I'm sorry you're not happy with how Blackwater is right now, but maybe that will freshen your perspectives up a bit.

Freakquent

vamp_emily wrote: »

I want to see a few 1v1 fights.

Sora vs Valen_Byte
I think Valen said Sora picked the most cheesy class and all he does is cloak. Ever since then I have always wanted Sora to fight Valen 1v1.

Sora vs Adenoma
I think Adenoma is a beast, I just want to see if Sora can beat him.

Emily vs Freakquent
For some reason I want to kill this person.

You've tried to gank me multiple times. Failing each time.
Lets set up a duel?

Valen_Byte

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Getting dethroned in the middle of the night is exactly what we wanted you to do so thanks. We wouldnt have been able to do it without that peice of the puzzle.

Its compleatly up to the faction in the end, weather ir not someone gets crowned. I have seen lots of player be at the top and not get crowned just because the players didnt like them. Happend to you if I remember right.

Are you referring to my first week of playing ESO in the first campaign I was in where some people didn't push for emp because I refused their selfish request for me to let them pass me on the leaderboard so they can be handed emp instead of earning it? The week that I did gain emp and did it by leading my own pug and taking the crown myself? I do remember that. The following week was the week I also decided to leave AD because I had no fun being on a faction that wins solely based on population. Also, it's getting hard to read your posts due to the many glaring grammatical errors. Would you mind right clicking the red underlined words and fixing them before submitting the post?

I must say, I found it a nice touch to claim getting dethroned is what you WANTED. That allows you to make others believe that you controlled everything. Anything that happens is what you WANTED. Good one. I'm sure no one will see through that facade (lol).

Well dont know what to tell you. You dethroned when we wanted you to. Not one of us defended our crown at night. Could have. I was on vacation all last week. Letting go of emp knowing you will nightcap was def part of the plan. Cant dethrone myself lol. Played DC like a fidle this week.

@vamp_emily as I already said, we all have our own accounts. I stopped playing my emp toon after my dethrone. My wife passed. Crowned her. She stopped playing that toon. My son passed us both and we crowned him. Not to hard to understand I dont think.

Adenoma

@vamp_emily and @W0lf_z13 , we did duel once. I stopped fighting and started messaging his friend halfway through because I was on a saptank that didn't have sap (no major sorcery), and he was on a kinda tanky stam DK. He told me I lost; though, I'm not sure what his criteria are.

Dueling in BwB is a weird thing, and admittedly one that I'm not terribly interested in. I have never built for 1v1 scenarios, but I'd be happy to do that and duel whomever. My only issue with dueling is that there's all this pain-in-the-butt communication to find a certain place off transit lines, etc. I always feel like it takes more time to actually organize a duel than do any fighting. When it comes down to it, I just want to play the game and I don't like stops in action.

Frankly, I also don't think that I'm anywhere near being a great player in BwB and there are some really fearsome people who actually like dueling and I'm sure that Sora (or anyone that wants to do 1v1 encounters) can get his fill via them. I think there's an entire guild of them, actually.

Edited to say thanks @vamp_emily and @W0lf_z13 for the compliments! I'm blushing!

vamp_emily

Adenoma wrote: »

Just a suggestion for those like Sora or @vamp_emily who say that they aren't having fun and have problems with the state of the campaign - you realize that you don't have to play BwB.

I definitely understand that, this is why I am actually doing different things now. However, many people agree that 3 bars vs 1 bar is not fun. Campaign imbalance is ruining BwB. Players are talking about quiting, some have quit, and some have went back to PvE.

I'm just pointing out the obvious and hope one day ZOS will fix it. I've really never cried about many things in this game being OP. 3 bars vs 1 bar is OP, it shouldn't happen just like CP should have never been in BwB.

Freakquent

anyone have any build ideas for a stam DK? Very unfamiliar with DK's (which is why I made a new one, specifically for BWB)

Vyle_Byte

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YOU didn't. The yellow sea did. Again, stop attempting to take credit for what multiple 24man zergs did. YOU have been proven and even just admitted you cannot even kill 1 player by yourself or duo (trio too but you left that out) so stop saying what YOU did. AD crowned emp 3 times this week. Nothing new, with such an overwhelming population advantage at all hours of the day and night I'm surprised you guys ever get dethroned... let alone 3 times in one week.

You do realize that DC has a "sea of blue" also right? Please, sometime try to take a look behind you there are many many times that we are evenly matched. Cannot tell you how many time this past week we ran into HOARDS of DC. Yes, AD has alot of ppl but when DC logs on, so do they. I know, fought them all week.

What bothers me is that you make it sound like you have no pop at all ever and that DC never travels in big numbers or are never all in the same place, which simply isn't the case. Many of the things you accuse us of is the same thing that DC does when they log on. I know its hard to see from your side, maybe you just aren't playing when the rest of your faction is. Idk.

Obviously AD throned us. Duh. He wasn't saying we did it all ourselves, he was making the point that we had a goal and we accomplished it, YES with the help of AD. I mean come on, who doesn't depend on their faction to help them, that's what we are here for. We are DAMN thankful for our factions support. Stop twisting his words around to make him look like the bad guy Sora. You have no idea what kind of person he is and that remark was an attack that was unnecessary.

Also he didn't say he cannot kill one person by himself give me a break LOL! There you go twisting again, stop. You pretty much called him a liar in your previous posts and Im getting sick of this kind of crap, no one here is attacking anyone in a personal real life manner... in game sure all you want, but you leave your opinion of the kind of person you THINK he is to yourself it has NO place here.

Each dethrone happened in the middle of the night or at 5am while we were sleeping, so there ya go not sure why you are surprised about us getting dethroned when it happened that way. And when we dethroned Pem and crowned Queen, it was at 1 in the afternoon on a freakin Sunday so...

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Now whenever during the day while people were at work or early morning while people were sleeping (I wasn't on since I was doing such things at such times) the emp got dethroned, perhaps you out-maneuvered the population who was online at that time or perhaps you just zerged them to death as usual.

not the case at all. @EdmundTowers even explained to you in detail what his group did and you refuse to acknowledge that we do anything at all but zerg. I think you think AD is running 10 24 man groups, this is far from the truth. Most of the time its pugs on man, only big groups I even know of anymore is Iote. So most of the time if you see a hoard of AD, its bc someone called something out in zone and thats where they go. Not sure what you would like us to do about that, honestly.

W0lf_z13

@Freakquent i started a new one as well... i went with argonian ( never played argonian before so its all new for me lol )

vamp_emily

Adenoma wrote: »

You've tried to gank me multiple times. Failing each time.
Lets set up a duel?

Ya I need to duel you, but don't be like "Adenoma" and come here with some excuse like "I stopped fighting and started talking to my friend".


Edit: Nevermind, I can't duel.

Adenoma

@vamp_emily , it's not an excuse. The duel would have been endless. I wasn't going to give an hour of my life to see whether or not I was right.

Vyle_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Hmmm.. i think ESO needs to launch an investigate something on AD side.

Three players in the same family, crowned Emp. Wonder if there was any trade kills, account sharing/cheating going on?

Never did I think you would stoop so low Emily. Never. We have been playing this game since early release we have NEVER done anything against TOS and for you to even suggest so on this thread is offensive and shameful and frankly its slanderous.

vamp_emily

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Hmmm.. i think ESO needs to launch an investigate something on AD side.

Three players in the same family, crowned Emp. Wonder if there was any trade kills, account sharing/cheating going on?

Never did I think you would stoop so low Emily. Never. We have been playing this game since early release we have NEVER done anything against TOS and for you to even suggest so on this thread is offensive and shameful and frankly its slanderous.

Ya I guess I was kind of bad for thinking that. What did you guys do have a wall repair contest for 15 hours a day?

Vyle_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

Ya I guess I was kind of bad for thinking that. What did you guys do have a wall repair contest for 15 hours a day?

Ty Emily. lol No, no wall repair contest, Valen always gets more AP than I do anyhow so when he got dethroned he logged a different character so I could pass him, then just did the same after I got dethroned. Ofc we did repair walls, we don't leave that for the pugs like some people like to do (that drives me nuts) lol but no, it wasn't a contest of wall repairs. If you ask our faction they will tell you we were at every battle we could possibly be at since last tuesday, from the moment we woke up until 2 am, every day.

It was my hope that we as the Byte Family, would do our faction proud. My husband was on vacation, a well deserved one and my son is on his last week of summer vaca, we thought it would be fun to try. I have always been nervous about it, thinking I would be the worst Emp ever and it would be too stressful. So for me to even try was a step out of my box and all I wanted in the world was to make my faction proud and maybe earn some respect from my enemies, whom I do respect. I hope at least one of those things came true.

ŞσƦѦ

Adenoma wrote: »

@vamp_emily and @W0lf_z13 , we did duel once. I stopped fighting and started messaging his friend halfway through because I was on a saptank that didn't have sap (no major sorcery), and he was on a kinda tanky stam DK. He told me I lost; though, I'm not sure what his criteria are.

Dueling in BwB is a weird thing, and admittedly one that I'm not terribly interested in. I have never built for 1v1 scenarios, but I'd be happy to do that and duel whomever. My only issue with dueling is that there's all this pain-in-the-butt communication to find a certain place off transit lines, etc. I always feel like it takes more time to actually organize a duel than do any fighting. When it comes down to it, I just want to play the game and I don't like stops in action.

Frankly, I also don't think that I'm anywhere near being a great player in BwB and there are some really fearsome people who actually like dueling and I'm sure that Sora (or anyone that wants to do 1v1 encounters) can get his fill via them. I think there's an entire guild of them, actually.

Edited to say thanks @vamp_emily and @W0lf_z13 for the compliments! I'm blushing!

What actually happened is another AD jumped in and he kept healing that AD member instead of doing what any other respectable player would have done which would have been to back off. After about 3mins of fighting them both my friend Gadriir made it and jumped in on the guy who jumped in then 5 more AD jumped in. We killed them all then I killed Adenoma and he pretended he was "talking to his friend". I'd be glad to duel him again but I doubt he would.... took me 4 months to get that duel.

As far as Dixon goes, he won't duel me. Already killed him 1 vs 2 and 1 vs 3. He will claim he has nothing to prove or another generic excuse.

@Vyle_Byte Everything you say is bias in favor of your husband so I don't really feel the need to respond to any of it. I'll say this though... stop telling people to confirm your claims by asking other AD members. It's very obvious that you will back each other up. From what I have been told, you are a nice person. It would be nice if you could let your husband fight his own battles; especially ones that he has provoked from the beginning.