PTS Patch Notes v2.5.1

rhapsodious

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Sorry for the confusion regarding the Monster Set bind-on-pickup note. There was a bit of a miscommunication. We've updated the note to say the following:

Thank you and Gina for getting on it! And this is good to hear. Shoulders are less of a pain to get, but it's great to hear that helms will be tradeable.

It's a bit of a niche case but as a further point of clarification: if my friends and I grouped up and did all the world bosses and delves in Wrothgar along with looting some chests (let's pretend we get it done within the time window), would any Briarheart/Trinimac/Pariah pieces we got from the coffers or chests be tradeable? I have a couple of friends who want to try Briarheart but they have such a pain getting it and if we could all throw ourselves at the RNG then we could probably git 'er done faster. (:

TheHsN

i really dont understand...

Why they dont listen and read feedbacks that they want from us???

They need to somethings with Racial passives...
We dont want useless traits drops...

And we want some combat balance between races come onnnnnnn i dont wanna be dissapoitment every time i read patch notes.....

Shadesofkin

TheHsN wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

You said that Monster Set pieces are untradeable by design... but the picture shows a monster set item which says it can be traded. So, uh... can they be traded or not?

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom clarification please? That's a really confusing image.

We're working on getting this clarified now. Stand by!

clarifie it as tradeable...pls:)

Helms are Shoulders are not

dagonbeer

Akimbro wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

We've added Powered versions of The Master's Greatsword, Sword, Inferno Staff, and Restoration Staff to the pool of possible Master Weapons available in the Dragonstar Arena.

Can we please get a smarter loot table?

Why would anyone in their right mind want a Powered Greatsword? Yes, the Powered trait would be quite nice for the Restoration Staff. So add it to that. Don't add it to the weapons for which the trait makes absolutely no sense.

For vigor!

Yup, that extra ~300hp heal I'll get from powered vigor in pvp per cast sure trumps 5120 penetration.

cschwingeb14_ESO

SirCritical wrote: »

"Not all items that are bind-on-pickup can be traded. Monster Set pieces, for example, are not tradeable by design."

Hm, but you show a monster helm as example. And these kind of items should really be tradable, while most groups are formed for helm-farming.

And no switches in the bosmer and khajiit racial skills (you know, the pickpocketing bonus). Sad.

My stealing character is khajit, and they are also a thievish race. I don't see why they would change that

BlissfulDeluge

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Nothing new about the racial passives huh? So i guess the changes will stick regardless of all the feedback? Interesting...

Patience, grasshopper. This won't be the only patch to the update.

Coolio_Wolfus

Saturn wrote: »

I wish you wouldn't keep adding nonsensical traits to places they don't belong. Like Prosperous and Training on endgame gear, and powered on other things than resto staves. Sure there will always be one or two people who will use powered on a destro staff or a bow, or whatever, but for the majority of players it will be a useless trait. I feel like the endgame gear should have traits that people desire.
Precise/Sharpened/Nirnhoned on offensive weapons, Defensive/Powered on defensive/healing weapons.
Infused/Divines/Nirnhoned/Reinforced/Well-fitted/Impenetrable on gear pieces.
The other traits are extremely useless for the most part as they either don't compare to the good traits or simply have no proper application at end level.
Training is good for levelling, but that's about it.
Prosperous is good for ???, I've yet to figure out if this actually is good for anyone but inefficient goldfarmers.
Charged on weapons doesn't really seem to do much either.

EDIT: At the very least if you aren't going to make the traits sensible, give the players a way to change traits. Maybe a max level crafter has a cooldown ability to change one trait on an item per week or something like that.

Clearly on the Training trait they are thinking ahead on their plan, which we don't have access to except for:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/05/10/dark-brotherhood-deep-dive-what-veteran-rank-removal-means-for-your-character
And I quote:

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

We also wanted to take this opportunity to answer a few of the more common questions we've seen on the official ESO forums from players who have gotten a chance to try these changes on the PTS:
...
Q: Can I get Champion Point 101 or Champion Point 400 gear?

A: The gear cap is currently CP 160, but it will be raised in the future. Gear will exist every 10 Champion Points so in the case of CP 101, the gear level will be rounded to the nearest ten; it will drop at either CP 100 or CP 110.
...

Stillian

We've added Powered versions of The Master's Greatsword, Sword, Inferno Staff, and Restoration Staff to the pool of possible Master Weapons available in the Dragonstar Arena.

Maybe stop this already? and make trait pool separate for each weapon? some "weapons" you make are useless even in omst hipster builds ever. The bigger pool is, the lesser chance to get weapon you would use. Instead of adding variety to builds, you actually reduce it to crafted weapons, because trait matters too much, and you will not use master weapon with a crap trait.

AJTC5000

AJTC5000 wrote: »

Nothing on wearing hats causing Macs to crash? Will authenticate when the PTS goes live to see if it's still there.

Never mind, all seems to be sorted . . . for me at least. Hopefully everyone else should be fine too.

MyNameIsElias

I really do not like the fact that this motif will only be available to players who played during the event. Unless you make this event happen once every year i find this to be a horrible gameplay decision.

MasterSpatula

• Survey Report Runestones now produce a Potency Rune in lieu of one of their previous two Essence Runes. Additionally, these Runestones have been renamed to avoid confusion related to calling them "dual" when they produce four (or more) runes.

Thank you, thank you, Thank You!

rhapsodious

I don't see why it wouldn't recur if it's not-Halloween. There needs to be a first time for everything, after all.

Regarding feedback: don't they usually get to player concerns in the 2nd or 3rd small patch? I'm under the impression that the first week is "features that didn't quite make it to RC before the date" and the second week onward is "okay here's us tweaking some values".

GreenSoup2HoT

We're planning on discussing the Racial Passives during ESO Live this Friday, so we'll address some of the concerns and questions.

Gina coming in with the big news! Thank you Gina

AverageFurry wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Nothing new about the racial passives huh? So i guess the changes will stick regardless of all the feedback? Interesting...

Patience, grasshopper. This won't be the only patch to the update.

You don't understand! I play console, so the news that breaks doesn't even hit us on console for weeks... its so stressful.

Teridaxus

Why are you guys suprised, they ignore all balance suggestions in every dlc/major update.
Db was a whole month of a fight between testers and wrobel. You can guess who won.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

OdinForge wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Trade Bind-on-Pickup Items in Dungeons & Trials to Group Members
Equipment looted while in a group can now be traded to active group members for two hours after being looted. 

• Group members must have been present when the items dropped, and in the instance (if applicable), in order for trading to be an option.
• Items that can be traded will have modified tooltips indicating how long they can be traded for, as well as to whom.
• Not all items that are bind-on-pickup can be traded. Monster Set pieces, for example, are not tradeable by design.
• This system is not exclusive to Dungeons and Trials—the system is universal, but most of our bind-on-pickup items that are tradeable do drop in Dungeons and Trials.

Cool, literally the only piece of gear that'd I'd be interested in trading. I'm going back to never owning a bloodspawn helmet, because since debut it remains the one helmet that I've never been able to loot, not even in a bad trait.

did you even read it? how did you managed to misquote it is beyond me?

Not all items that are bind-on-pickup can be traded. Monster Shoulders, since they drop from Undaunted chests for example, are not tradeable by design. (Monster Helms, since they drop from Veteran Dungeon final bosses, on the other hand, are.)

ps check the special pvp vendor on the weekends you can buy it for gold or ap when its cycles in... you now will have 2 additional ways aside from it dropping for you

Shadesofkin

MyNameIsElias wrote: »

I really do not like the fact that this motif will only be available to players who played during the event. Unless you make this event happen once every year i find this to be a horrible gameplay decision.

I just assume that's exactly what the plan is.

Romejin

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Any updates to the console text chat?

Shadesofkin

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Trade Bind-on-Pickup Items in Dungeons & Trials to Group Members
Equipment looted while in a group can now be traded to active group members for two hours after being looted. 

• Group members must have been present when the items dropped, and in the instance (if applicable), in order for trading to be an option.
• Items that can be traded will have modified tooltips indicating how long they can be traded for, as well as to whom.
• Not all items that are bind-on-pickup can be traded. Monster Set pieces, for example, are not tradeable by design.
• This system is not exclusive to Dungeons and Trials—the system is universal, but most of our bind-on-pickup items that are tradeable do drop in Dungeons and Trials.

Cool, literally the only piece of gear that'd I'd be interested in trading. I'm going back to never owning a bloodspawn helmet, because since debut it remains the one helmet that I've never been able to loot, not even in a bad trait.

did you even read it? how did you managed to misquote it is beyond me?

Not all items that are bind-on-pickup can be traded. Monster Shoulders, since they drop from Undaunted chests for example, are not tradeable by design. (Monster Helms, since they drop from Veteran Dungeon final bosses, on the other hand, are.)

ps check the special pvp vendor on the weekends you can buy it for gold or ap when its cycles in... you now will have 2 additional ways aside from it dropping for you

His post came before the clarification

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Romejin wrote: »

Any updates to the console text chat?

What updates were you looking for, @Romejin?

OdinForge

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Trade Bind-on-Pickup Items in Dungeons & Trials to Group Members
Equipment looted while in a group can now be traded to active group members for two hours after being looted. 

• Group members must have been present when the items dropped, and in the instance (if applicable), in order for trading to be an option.
• Items that can be traded will have modified tooltips indicating how long they can be traded for, as well as to whom.
• Not all items that are bind-on-pickup can be traded. Monster Set pieces, for example, are not tradeable by design.
• This system is not exclusive to Dungeons and Trials—the system is universal, but most of our bind-on-pickup items that are tradeable do drop in Dungeons and Trials.

Cool, literally the only piece of gear that'd I'd be interested in trading. I'm going back to never owning a bloodspawn helmet, because since debut it remains the one helmet that I've never been able to loot, not even in a bad trait.

did you even read it? how did you managed to misquote it is beyond me?

Not all items that are bind-on-pickup can be traded. Monster Shoulders, since they drop from Undaunted chests for example, are not tradeable by design. (Monster Helms, since they drop from Veteran Dungeon final bosses, on the other hand, are.)

ps check the special pvp vendor on the weekends you can buy it for gold or ap when its cycles in... you now will have 2 additional ways aside from it dropping for you

I mean did you even thoroughly read my post, I quoted the original message from Jessica which clearly shows what I was talking about. Don't just respond without completely reading and understanding what you're responding to.

And the vendor has only once sold a bloodspawn helm to my knowledge, and I missed it from being away that weekend.

SirCritical

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

My stealing character is khajit, and they are also a thievish race. I don't see why they would change that

My master thief is a bosmer, so that's why OK, do not give us pickpocketing bonus, but add us a maneater bonus :P

Jaronking

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno Can you ask someone about adding impen back to the PVE loot table?Many PVPers will like to use these new sets but if they don't come in impenetrable we really can't use them.

susmitds

SirCritical wrote: »

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

My stealing character is khajit, and they are also a thievish race. I don't see why they would change that

My master thief is a bosmer, so that's why OK, do not give us pickpocketing bonus, but add us a maneater bonus :P

Lorewise, Khajiit are the sneakiest race.

Romejin

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

A text box on the main screen. The current one on the server looks more of a hassle.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Jaronking wrote: »

Can you ask someone about adding impen back to the PVE loot table?Many PVPers will like to use these new sets but if they don't come in impenetrable we really can't use them.

This has been long asked about (and long discussed internally), and we'd like to get the community's thoughts on it. There are some pros and cons, and ultimately it boils down to doing what's best for you, the players. We'll try to get a thread up about this later in the week, and get the discussion going.

Vythri

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Can you ask someone about adding impen back to the PVE loot table?Many PVPers will like to use these new sets but if they don't come in impenetrable we really can't use them.

This has been long asked about (and long discussed internally), and we'd like to get the community's thoughts on it. There are some pros and cons, and ultimately it boils down to doing what's best for you, the players. We'll try to get a thread up about this later in the week, and get the discussion going.

What would be the cons?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Vythri wrote: »

What would be the cons?

Every added Trait adds to the RNG aspect of trying to get the specific item set piece(s) and Trait combination you want. We're sensitive to the fact that this can already be a frustrating experience due to the randomness of it. So, we'd like to hear from the community if adding another Trait to the pool, as it were, is considered worthwhile.

Gigasax

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Can you ask someone about adding impen back to the PVE loot table?Many PVPers will like to use these new sets but if they don't come in impenetrable we really can't use them.

This has been long asked about (and long discussed internally), and we'd like to get the community's thoughts on it. There are some pros and cons, and ultimately it boils down to doing what's best for you, the players. We'll try to get a thread up about this later in the week, and get the discussion going.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Vythri wrote: »

What would be the cons?

Every added Trait adds to the RNG aspect of trying to get the specific item set piece(s) and Trait combination you want. We're sensitive to the fact that this can already be a frustrating experience due to the randomness of it. So, we'd like to hear from the community if adding another Trait to the pool, as it were, is considered worthwhile.

You want our Feedback?

-Remove Training and Prosperous from the End-Game Loottable
-Bring back Inpen

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Romejin wrote: »

A text box on the main screen. The current one on the server looks more of a hassle.

Are you referring to what the gamepad mode text chat currently looks like on the PTS? If so, it's not a good representation of what it will look like when fully in the game on consoles. We'll see if we can get you a screenshot of what it actually looks like.

rhapsodious

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Vythri wrote: »

What would be the cons?

Every added Trait adds to the RNG aspect of trying to get the specific item set piece(s) and Trait combination you want. We're sensitive to the fact that this can already be a frustrating experience due to the randomness of it. So, we'd like to hear from the community if adding another Trait to the pool, as it were, is considered worthwhile.

If you remove two and add one, your odds are overall better, hint hint.