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ZOS is trying to silent forum members regarding rumored return of Cheaters

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  • kongkim
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    Khajiit_Ri wrote: »
    please everyone that is disgruntled make it trend, this is an effort to make everyone aware of this broken product. It's lack of integrity. #ESObroken.

    Broken?? So someone cheats and that make the game broken..
    Its not broken for me. so you get a LOL from here.

    But ofc. they need to fix it. But this forum QQ is always a little lame :dizzy:
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Makkir wrote: »
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    Umm, what have Mully and Sculder to do with it?
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  • Cazzy
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    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I just want to casually point out that IGN aren't great. Kotaku, Gamenesia, Polygon, PC Gamer and most importantly Games Radar.

    :tongue:
    But are they fair, aren't they just an advertising paper?
    I'm not familiar with them, so hence my question.

    Not really. I mean they're supposed to be neutral in what they report but they're not really taken seriously as they have a general bias towards certain developers and games. They may report 20x about Call of Duty and how great it is but not mention bigger, better or more recent games, as an example. IGN were one of the reasons I started my own gaming news company.
  • Clerics1985
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    Compile all the Threads about cheating here and Everywhere else and send them to MMORPG.com I'm sure they'd be Thrilled to know what the Developers they deemed "#1mmo of the year" are up to with their game. in all honesty it degrades their Reputation and they have a right to know. as well as other big Gaming sites.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Etchos wrote: »
    So people seriously think that the bad press will spur ZOS into action and all will be well?

    Sorry I just don't buy it. The kind of press that we are talking about is not the kind of press ZOS will recover from. If it does by some miracle spur ZOS to fix things then every google search will have those articles or whatever lying there for potential new players to see that and not buy the game. Because even if the issue gets fixed nobody is going to report that as emphatically as the problem was. nobody will care it was fixed........just that it was there in the first place.

    That doesn't punish ZOS that punishes us as players. ZOS will simply reduce investment and support in the face of reduced numbers accelerating the death of the game. They will still make money. We just wont have DLC and fixes will take even longer

    I like this game and don't want it to die. Please think about the wider consequences.

    There is no wider consequences. Any bad articles that appear on Google are of ZOS own makings. their outright refusal to fix serious bugs in the game was bad enough, but now they are giving cheaters and hackers a free pass...no way....If they are going to do that they don't deserve to carry the name of The Elder Scrolls.

    There is still time for Zenimax to do the right thing. If this game dies, it will die because of decisions like rewarding hackers while spitting in the face of honest paying customers. 20 people i know in game have pulled their subs on PC, how many more have or are is anyone guess at this point....but their is no sense throwing money support behind this when they are unbanning cheaters and hackers, why should I or anyone else subsidize a cheaters entertainment?

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  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I just want to casually point out that IGN aren't great. Kotaku, Gamenesia, Polygon, PC Gamer and most importantly Games Radar.

    :tongue:
    But are they fair, aren't they just an advertising paper?
    I'm not familiar with them, so hence my question.

    Not really. I mean they're supposed to be neutral in what they report but they're not really taken seriously as they have a general bias towards certain developers and games. They may report 20x about Call of Duty and how great it is but not mention bigger, better or more recent games, as an example. IGN were one of the reasons I started my own gaming news company.
    Yep, I read one or two of these mags, but I had that impression as well.
    So, not go there but look for more unbiassed ones, I'd say.
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    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • Makkir
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    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    some-x-files-mysteries-we-hope-the-new-series-answers.jpg
    Umm, what have Mully and Sculder to do with it?

    its obviously an Xfile...
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Makkir wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    some-x-files-mysteries-we-hope-the-new-series-answers.jpg
    Umm, what have Mully and Sculder to do with it?

    its obviously an Xfile...
    Odd, I'd thought it was more a a Charley Chaplin movie, or something similar.
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • Clerics1985
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    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    some-x-files-mysteries-we-hope-the-new-series-answers.jpg
    Umm, what have Mully and Sculder to do with it?

    its obviously an Xfile...
    Odd, I'd thought it was more a a Charley Chaplin movie, or something similar.

    to me seeing some of the CE videos I thought it was an "Airplane!" movie sequel myself..
  • Cherryblossom
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    Etchos wrote: »
    So instead of having a broken game the majority of the forum want an empty game. That seems like a sensible way forward (sarcasm).

    Time is what is needed here. Its an issue.....they are aware. Putting topic after topic about it is not going to help. What exactly is the expectation here? That in a 24 hour period they can close the door to the hackers with a miracle patch. That's never going to happen. Look at the DLC's........months of development and always glitches etc.

    So ZOS need to identify where the back door is. Find out how to close it. implement that close and identify what effect that has on game mechanics.......address that..... test. Go through approval processes and make the patch available. All in the 2 hours between topics. Seems like a realistic expectation (sarcasm)

    Trying to get negative press on this will simply be counter productive. If that results in a mass gamer number drop then the revenue dries up. And sure you might think you are sticking it to ZOS but in reality all that will happen is that they will reduce staff levels and stop development of new content. They will still make money.......just that us playing the game will suffer more than now. If people didn't love this game then they wouldn't be getting so worked up about these issues. So with that in mind id urge people to consider the wider implications to the game in their desire to punish ZOS for there perceived wronging.

    Everyone just needs to take a step back and think about what is important. At the end of the day this is just a game. But if it is so important to you that you need to take action then possibly consider this:

    Instead of pointing a finger at ZOS and starting multiple hate threads demanding the impossible start a thread asking how this forum as a community can help them out getting to the bottom of the issue.

    At the end of the day ZOS and the player base should be united against hackers. Having a ridiculous feud only results in the hackers winning.

    @Etchos
    Hi Etchos, I think you are missing the point of the thread and the anger currently being vented.
    Most are aware that ZOS is working on fixing the issue of hacking within the game, I think most accept this will take time and most are happy they are working on it. THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE

    What has people angry is what ZOS has done about people who have been hacking, Jessica said that they had permanently banned 43 people from the game. Some of those people who were so called Permanently Banned are now back in the game.

    The reason why these threads keep poping up is because ZOS is shuting them down when members of the community ask what the hell is going on.

    It would seem to me that ZOS stand point is now that you can use the Cheat Engine, but expect a couple of weeks ban if you get caught!
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Clerics1985 wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    some-x-files-mysteries-we-hope-the-new-series-answers.jpg
    Umm, what have Mully and Sculder to do with it?

    its obviously an Xfile...
    Odd, I'd thought it was more a a Charley Chaplin movie, or something similar.

    to me seeing some of the CE videos I thought it was an "Airplane!" movie sequel myself..
    NOOOO, those had sound.
    ZoS has no sound, it's a mute movie.
    Edited by dtm_samuraib16_ESO on June 16, 2016 12:30PM
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • Cazzy
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    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Cazzy wrote: »
    I just want to casually point out that IGN aren't great. Kotaku, Gamenesia, Polygon, PC Gamer and most importantly Games Radar.

    :tongue:
    But are they fair, aren't they just an advertising paper?
    I'm not familiar with them, so hence my question.

    Not really. I mean they're supposed to be neutral in what they report but they're not really taken seriously as they have a general bias towards certain developers and games. They may report 20x about Call of Duty and how great it is but not mention bigger, better or more recent games, as an example. IGN were one of the reasons I started my own gaming news company.
    Yep, I read one or two of these mags, but I had that impression as well.
    So, not go there but look for more unbiassed ones, I'd say.

    Yeah :smile: Games Radar news gets shared by Playstation and Xbox. Kotaku are also quite popular.
  • Clerics1985
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    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Clerics1985 wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    some-x-files-mysteries-we-hope-the-new-series-answers.jpg
    Umm, what have Mully and Sculder to do with it?

    its obviously an Xfile...
    Odd, I'd thought it was more a a Charley Chaplin movie, or something similar.

    to me seeing some of the CE videos I thought it was an "Airplane!" movie sequel myself..
    NOOOO, those had sound.
    ZoS has no sound, it's a mute movie.

    >.< shiiiiiiieet I forgot! mybad :frowning:

    wait! they edited it for for the old school Japanese fans :trollface:
    Edited by Clerics1985 on June 16, 2016 12:32PM
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Clerics1985 wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Clerics1985 wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    some-x-files-mysteries-we-hope-the-new-series-answers.jpg
    Umm, what have Mully and Sculder to do with it?

    its obviously an Xfile...
    Odd, I'd thought it was more a a Charley Chaplin movie, or something similar.

    to me seeing some of the CE videos I thought it was an "Airplane!" movie sequel myself..
    NOOOO, those had sound.
    ZoS has no sound, it's a mute movie.

    >.< shiiiiiiieet I forgot! mybad :frowning:
    s'OK, I learn everyday as well. ;)
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • STEVIL
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    Khajiit_Ri wrote: »
    How about an answer? We have spent much coin on a pretty much broken game. And we are banning together, many of us are already compiling information, and ready to go live with it. Not only that but we are contacting every social media platform we can find.

    1970s
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    1980s
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    1990s
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    Lewinski

    ...

    2016
    Khajiit-Ri and ESOGATE.

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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    STEVIL wrote: »
    Khajiit_Ri wrote: »
    How about an answer? We have spent much coin on a pretty much broken game. And we are banning together, many of us are already compiling information, and ready to go live with it. Not only that but we are contacting every social media platform we can find.

    1970s
    Pentagon Papers
    Watergate

    1980s
    Iran/contra

    1990s
    Whitewater
    Lewinski

    ...

    2016
    Khajiit-Ri and ESOGATE.

    #Peoplesrighttoknow
    #FirstWorldProblem

    Well to be fair, Lewinski is somewhere on the same playing field as ESOgate. And that was Congress.
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    See, let me make an example of back in America's Online days.
    Maybe someone remembers LtKirzillian, maybe not, but i was quite a badass with a SAW.
    I used the SAW as a sniper rifle, and dang, I was GOOD with it.
    So good, others called Admins on a regular base to have me checked out.
    Clean, of course.
    But I could take down people from distances, shooting 1 bullet at a time.
    My eyesight could be seen as 120/100, and this was my point of advantage.

    But the point is not me being good in a game, it's about people asking for a check when cheating was suspected, and no matter what time it was, one ALWAYS was around.
    And they checked THOROUGHLY, rest assured.

    I've seen people being banned with the hardest to detect cheats, they never missed one.

    Why can't ZoS not get say Server Police with a bunch of detection tools?
    With recording systems to gather proof?
    And a kick button, with a request for ban to higher up people?

    These would be unknown, of course, no special tag or so, not like the idiocy here in Belgium, where the police makes regular speed and other checks, but which are given notice of through various media.
    How can such work, God...

    But, this could be a valid system.

    Just thinking out loud.
    Earthdawn Game Master Role Play Quotes by me:
    "If it looks like a bear, if it feels like a bear, smells and tastes like a bear, then be VERY aware, it could be something ENTIRELY different..."
    "Be careful what you wish for, you might get plenty of it..."
  • Jaronking
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    Makkir wrote: »
    im going to be POd if I cant log in tomorrow bc my favorite game pulls the plug

    while dont you retaliate against the cheaters instead.
    They want all of the PC players to move to their new main version of the game Consoles.This way their no way to cheat so people can't complain.
  • moiraleafcull
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    ShedsHisTail wrote: »
    How many of you have actually gone through the proper channels and reported this, rather than just bitching on the forums?
    Four straight nights of reporting a group purposefully exploiting.
    Reported by multiple people and supporting screen shots.
    Same group at it again last night operating with impunity to the extent that these particular exploits are becoming rampant.

    There are numerous posts about the efforts of the community to go through the "proper" channels to get cheating and exploiting addressed. They have been ignored for the most part and when finally pushed to action ZOS pulled out the nerf ban hammer.



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  • Clerics1985
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Makkir wrote: »
    im going to be POd if I cant log in tomorrow bc my favorite game pulls the plug

    while dont you retaliate against the cheaters instead.
    They want all of the PC players to move to their new main version of the game Consoles.This way their no way to cheat so people can't complain.

    so it's Either play the PC version and have CEjsp run amuck farming tears and Maelstrom Records

    or Play PS4 and have my credit card info/ PS account hacked? bruh, Just nuh
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    Hey folks, as detailed here, these threads are attracting a lot of problems. For the moment, we are locking these threads to give the topic a chance to cool down. We will be re-opening that thread, or posting a new one, in the future so discussion can resume. We will hopefully have more information to share at that time.
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