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Vampire skin doesnt display when wearing disguise - visual bug

  • idk
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
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    Which costumes???

    Costumes purchased from the Crown Store do NOT remove the vampire appearance. However, it seems that ANY disguise acquired during questing will do so.

    Once again, I'll take this opportunity to beg for the ability to be able to TOGGLE the vampire skin, turning it on and off at will. Failing that, I'd gladly buy this ability on the Crown Store.

    Most of the appearance of being a vampire has a toggle, at least it used to when the game launched. Just turned one of my previous vamps back and Seles to still be the case.

    Beyond that there should not be a hard toggle and crown costumes should not hide the appearance. It's a choice to be a vamp which includes the awesome appearance.

    Vampirism is a set of four cosmetic skins. This is effectively identical to the Soul Shriven visual effect. And now the skin collectibles.

    It was never a toggle, or at least not a mechanic players could manually adjust (beyond moving between different stages).

    Feeding it controlled it allowing player control of appearance. I say toggle you do call it something else. In the end what we call it is irrelevant since one can control the appearance easily.

    At stage 1 it's hardly noticeable. Rosy cheeks and light red tint to be eyes.

    Also an utter lack of skin pigmentation, and depending on your original eye color they can be vibrantly red at stage 1.

    And? At save 1 the change is minimal. Of course someone could get cured if they don't like it.

    It's a choice to be a vamp and it should be recognizable that someone is a vamp, especially at stage 2. Players should know someone is sucesptable to fire just as they know when a WW is susceptible to poison.

    No costume should hide that someone is a vamp and it should not be something that can be completely hide. By any other means.

    Again you are wrong. Unless you're using add-ons, there's no way to know anyone is a werewolf. There is no visual cue until they use werewolf abilities via their Ult. Stage 2 visuals are fine. Stage one STILL makes it obvious that you are a vampire and this is what many of us object to. There's no game mechanic that depends on being able to see the vampire appearance as a visual cue. Add-ons will tell you who is a vampire as well as who is a werewolf. Many armors and costumes completely cover all of the skin, hiding the visual cue of vampirism quite effectively. Are you going to say vampires should not have access to that armor?

    I am wrong? Omg. Lol. I expext the comment was made out of ignorance.

    The only time a WW is more sucesptable to poison is when they are in WW form. If someoej cannot tell the difference between human and WW form I suggest a different game. Ask any WW. They should know their passives well enough.

    I didn't waste my time reading the rest of the post do to the incorrect response you started out with.
    Edited by idk on July 7, 2016 8:42PM
  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Which costumes???

    Costumes purchased from the Crown Store do NOT remove the vampire appearance. However, it seems that ANY disguise acquired during questing will do so.

    Once again, I'll take this opportunity to beg for the ability to be able to TOGGLE the vampire skin, turning it on and off at will. Failing that, I'd gladly buy this ability on the Crown Store.

    Most of the appearance of being a vampire has a toggle, at least it used to when the game launched. Just turned one of my previous vamps back and Seles to still be the case.

    Beyond that there should not be a hard toggle and crown costumes should not hide the appearance. It's a choice to be a vamp which includes the awesome appearance.

    Vampirism is a set of four cosmetic skins. This is effectively identical to the Soul Shriven visual effect. And now the skin collectibles.

    It was never a toggle, or at least not a mechanic players could manually adjust (beyond moving between different stages).

    Feeding it controlled it allowing player control of appearance. I say toggle you do call it something else. In the end what we call it is irrelevant since one can control the appearance easily.

    At stage 1 it's hardly noticeable. Rosy cheeks and light red tint to be eyes.

    You're wrong. This is Morna as she appears as a mortal with the vampirism dropped:
    MornaMortal2_zpscjnyreko.png

    This is Morna at Stage 1 vampirism:
    Morna27_zpsuepoijud.png

    At the very LEAST I want my green eyes back!

    tumblr_nm591ywczx1rhh90ho1_1280.png

    I do so love the glowly eyes effect back in Skyrim ;D I wish the vampires had the skyrim's glowly eyes in ESO.

    I'd love to see that as a skin you could purchase in the Crown Store!

    Costume or crafting ... I would like to have this to purchase at the crown store:

    tumblr_nlls89MHHM1rhh90ho2_1280.png
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  • starkerealm
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.
  • idk
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.
    Edited by idk on July 7, 2016 9:15PM
  • starkerealm
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.
  • idk
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.

    LOL, and if you read my post and especially further back for history you would see I am 100% correct. If I need to educate others with further detail pls let me know.
  • starkerealm
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.

    LOL, and if you read my post and especially further back for history you would see I am 100% correct. If I need to educate others with further detail pls let me know.

    I understood what you meant, I also read what you actually said. Unfortunately these weren't quite the same thing. You'll probably want to work on that.
  • idk
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.

    LOL, and if you read my post and especially further back for history you would see I am 100% correct. If I need to educate others with further detail pls let me know.

    I understood what you meant, I also read what you actually said. Unfortunately these weren't quite the same thing. You'll probably want to work on that.

    Unless you want to TRY to educate me, then your words are empty.
  • starkerealm
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.

    LOL, and if you read my post and especially further back for history you would see I am 100% correct. If I need to educate others with further detail pls let me know.

    I understood what you meant, I also read what you actually said. Unfortunately these weren't quite the same thing. You'll probably want to work on that.

    Unless you want to TRY to educate me, then your words are empty.

    Start with specificity and clarity.

    If you're talking about transformed werewolves, don't just say, "when they're vulnerable to poison," because there was a time when that penalty was always on. When you're being snippy, you've no one else to blame for someone else thinking you're either misinformed or an idiot.

    While we're on the subject, tone the snark way back. No one here is impressed.

    Also, don't try typing long posts on my phone. This keyboard ia terrible.
  • susmitds
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.

    LOL, and if you read my post and especially further back for history you would see I am 100% correct. If I need to educate others with further detail pls let me know.

    I understood what you meant, I also read what you actually said. Unfortunately these weren't quite the same thing. You'll probably want to work on that.

    Unless you want to TRY to educate me, then your words are empty.

    You can just put on full body armor and nobody will know what you are.

    If you want to know which players are vampires, there is a skill, which is specialized for that.

    Sorry, but your statements come off as useless right now.
  • idk
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.

    LOL, and if you read my post and especially further back for history you would see I am 100% correct. If I need to educate others with further detail pls let me know.

    I understood what you meant, I also read what you actually said. Unfortunately these weren't quite the same thing. You'll probably want to work on that.

    Unless you want to TRY to educate me, then your words are empty.

    Start with specificity and clarity.

    If you're talking about transformed werewolves, don't just say, "when they're vulnerable to poison," because there was a time when that penalty was always on. When you're being snippy, you've no one else to blame for someone else thinking you're either misinformed or an idiot.

    While we're on the subject, tone the snark way back. No one here is impressed.

    Also, don't try typing long posts on my phone. This keyboard ia terrible.

    How things used to is irrelevant. Only how the game is today which is what this conversation is about.

    The same advice you are sharing with me is advice you should head yourself. Especial since your post that started this convo was nothing more than a troll post.

    In the end, based on what you just said, I have been correct. Thank you and we can let this rest.
  • starkerealm
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    I am wrong? Omg.

    Yeah.

    Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post.

    Trolls will be trolls. @starkerealm

    And really, sho cares that you didn't read it. Was directed towards someone else.

    Well, there was the part where you were wrong about werewolves.

    LOL, and if you read my post and especially further back for history you would see I am 100% correct. If I need to educate others with further detail pls let me know.

    I understood what you meant, I also read what you actually said. Unfortunately these weren't quite the same thing. You'll probably want to work on that.

    Unless you want to TRY to educate me, then your words are empty.

    Start with specificity and clarity.

    If you're talking about transformed werewolves, don't just say, "when they're vulnerable to poison," because there was a time when that penalty was always on. When you're being snippy, you've no one else to blame for someone else thinking you're either misinformed or an idiot.

    While we're on the subject, tone the snark way back. No one here is impressed.

    Also, don't try typing long posts on my phone. This keyboard ia terrible.

    How things used to is irrelevant. Only how the game is today which is what this conversation is about.

    The same advice you are sharing with me is advice you should head yourself. Especial since your post that started this convo was nothing more than a troll post.

    In the end, based on what you just said, I have been correct. Thank you and we can let this rest.

    You asked.

    It's like they say, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think."
  • Lylith
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    leave it be.

    there ARE more important things that actually need fixing, no?
  • starkerealm
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    Lylith wrote: »
    leave it be.

    there ARE more important things that actually need fixing, no?

    If this leads to vampires gaining the ability to hide their natue in a less ad-hoc way, I'm fine with them fixing this bug...
    Edited by starkerealm on July 7, 2016 11:01PM
  • notimetocare
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    Hope they fix this bug, I like my vamp looking vamp. And vamp should always look that way, no adding a skin tohide it
  • Nova Sky
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Which costumes???

    Costumes purchased from the Crown Store do NOT remove the vampire appearance. However, it seems that ANY disguise acquired during questing will do so.

    Once again, I'll take this opportunity to beg for the ability to be able to TOGGLE the vampire skin, turning it on and off at will. Failing that, I'd gladly buy this ability on the Crown Store.

    Most of the appearance of being a vampire has a toggle, at least it used to when the game launched. Just turned one of my previous vamps back and Seles to still be the case.

    Beyond that there should not be a hard toggle and crown costumes should not hide the appearance. It's a choice to be a vamp which includes the awesome appearance.

    Vampirism is a set of four cosmetic skins. This is effectively identical to the Soul Shriven visual effect. And now the skin collectibles.

    It was never a toggle, or at least not a mechanic players could manually adjust (beyond moving between different stages).

    Feeding it controlled it allowing player control of appearance. I say toggle you do call it something else. In the end what we call it is irrelevant since one can control the appearance easily.

    At stage 1 it's hardly noticeable. Rosy cheeks and light red tint to be eyes.

    You're wrong. This is Morna as she appears as a mortal with the vampirism dropped:
    MornaMortal2_zpscjnyreko.png

    This is Morna at Stage 1 vampirism:
    Morna27_zpsuepoijud.png

    At the very LEAST I want my green eyes back!

    Aww. Morna, I think your toon has gorgeous, vibrant *red* eyes. And the longest, sharpest fangs concealed by that full-lipped mouth! And that alabaster, veined skin of hers! I bet that toon would be the pick of the crop at a vampire ball! ;)
    "Wheresoever you go, go with all of your heart."
  • notimetocare
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Which costumes???

    Costumes purchased from the Crown Store do NOT remove the vampire appearance. However, it seems that ANY disguise acquired during questing will do so.

    Once again, I'll take this opportunity to beg for the ability to be able to TOGGLE the vampire skin, turning it on and off at will. Failing that, I'd gladly buy this ability on the Crown Store.

    Most of the appearance of being a vampire has a toggle, at least it used to when the game launched. Just turned one of my previous vamps back and Seles to still be the case.

    Beyond that there should not be a hard toggle and crown costumes should not hide the appearance. It's a choice to be a vamp which includes the awesome appearance.

    Vampirism is a set of four cosmetic skins. This is effectively identical to the Soul Shriven visual effect. And now the skin collectibles.

    It was never a toggle, or at least not a mechanic players could manually adjust (beyond moving between different stages).

    Feeding it controlled it allowing player control of appearance. I say toggle you do call it something else. In the end what we call it is irrelevant since one can control the appearance easily.

    At stage 1 it's hardly noticeable. Rosy cheeks and light red tint to be eyes.

    You're wrong. This is Morna as she appears as a mortal with the vampirism dropped:
    MornaMortal2_zpscjnyreko.png

    This is Morna at Stage 1 vampirism:
    Morna27_zpsuepoijud.png

    At the very LEAST I want my green eyes back!

    Easy fix: cure vampirism
  • NovaShadow
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    Why would you report this.

    Wearing a certain costume I refuse to mention I could actually look like a human instead of a fugly pasty vamp. The skin is hideous. Being able to look normal is badly needed.

    Of all the bugs you can report this should be at the bottom of the list.
    Edited by NovaShadow on July 9, 2016 7:55AM
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  • notimetocare
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    NovaShadow wrote: »
    Why would you report this.

    Wearing a certain costume I refuse to mention I could actually look like a human instead of a fugly pasty vamp. The skin is hideous. Being able to look normal is badly needed.

    Of all the bugs you can report this should be at the bottom of the list.

    A bug is a bug and needs fixed. Don't want vamp, cure it
    Edited by notimetocare on July 9, 2016 8:04AM
  • Phinix1
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    People have been asking for years for glamours. Vampires traditionally (even in ZOS lore) are illusionists. The powerful ones (especially females) blend in with their human cattle. You can see this in all TES games. The ability to put on some cosmetic costumes and hide your vampire appearance was a step in the right direction.

    A better solution, as @ZOS_JessicaFolsom hinted at, would be a settings toggle that allowed you to hide it.

    You can already hide it with gear that shows no skin so the "PVP people need to know" argument is nullified.

    I don't see any reason to punish RP'ers that play vampires how they're SUPPOSED to be.
    Edited by Phinix1 on July 9, 2016 8:25AM
  • ListerJMC
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    Wait nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't fix this I only just discovered it a week ago! I was so happy with my Redguard not being purple for a change!
    Thanks @bhlegit! We're tracking this bug with another costume, so we'll add this costume to the list. (Also, the request to toggle the vampire skin visual effect is noted. :))

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom this is the best thing I've read all day please say it's on the way soon and not soon(tm)! Characters who weren't a pale white to start with will eternally thank you for reversing the intense bleach/lavender paint! :)
    Edited by ListerJMC on June 1, 2017 2:38PM
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  • ListerJMC
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Which costumes???

    Costumes purchased from the Crown Store do NOT remove the vampire appearance. However, it seems that ANY disguise acquired during questing will do so.

    Once again, I'll take this opportunity to beg for the ability to be able to TOGGLE the vampire skin, turning it on and off at will. Failing that, I'd gladly buy this ability on the Crown Store.

    Most of the appearance of being a vampire has a toggle, at least it used to when the game launched. Just turned one of my previous vamps back and Seles to still be the case.

    Beyond that there should not be a hard toggle and crown costumes should not hide the appearance. It's a choice to be a vamp which includes the awesome appearance.

    Vampirism is a set of four cosmetic skins. This is effectively identical to the Soul Shriven visual effect. And now the skin collectibles.

    It was never a toggle, or at least not a mechanic players could manually adjust (beyond moving between different stages).

    Feeding it controlled it allowing player control of appearance. I say toggle you do call it something else. In the end what we call it is irrelevant since one can control the appearance easily.

    At stage 1 it's hardly noticeable. Rosy cheeks and light red tint to be eyes.

    You're wrong. This is Morna as she appears as a mortal with the vampirism dropped:
    MornaMortal2_zpscjnyreko.png

    This is Morna at Stage 1 vampirism:
    Morna27_zpsuepoijud.png

    At the very LEAST I want my green eyes back!

    Easy fix: cure vampirism

    I can't agree with that kind of logic. I mean

    Easy fix to Cyrodiil lag: Don't pvp.
    Easy fix to group finder bugs: Don't use group finder.
    Easy fix for weapon swap glitches: Don't equip weapons.

    etc. etc.

    Additionally as per my above post I agree with Morna that vampirism is definitely not "hardly noticeable" at stage one, at least not for Redguards. It's really, really, awfully noticeable :/.
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    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
  • Actually_Goku
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    Yeah, I wore the Phaer mercenary one for about 3 seconds, no longer appear as a vamp, even with the disguise removed.
  • Phinix1
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    Easy fix: cure vampirism

    Don't like looking mangy, fle-bitten, and rancid? Tired of that wirey daedric fur tufting through your gear?

    Easy fix: Cure lycanthropy.

    Oh wait...

    There are no visual signs of lycanthropy whatsoever until you CHOOSE to show it!
  • NovaShadow
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    NovaShadow wrote: »
    Why would you report this.

    Wearing a certain costume I refuse to mention I could actually look like a human instead of a fugly pasty vamp. The skin is hideous. Being able to look normal is badly needed.

    Of all the bugs you can report this should be at the bottom of the list.

    A bug is a bug and needs fixed. Don't want vamp, cure it

    LOL

    Seriously...

    That is your answer.

    Just...lol...
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  • Phinix1
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    NovaShadow wrote: »
    That is your answer.

    No, but it seems like it might have been yours.
  • notimetocare
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Which costumes???

    Costumes purchased from the Crown Store do NOT remove the vampire appearance. However, it seems that ANY disguise acquired during questing will do so.

    Once again, I'll take this opportunity to beg for the ability to be able to TOGGLE the vampire skin, turning it on and off at will. Failing that, I'd gladly buy this ability on the Crown Store.

    Most of the appearance of being a vampire has a toggle, at least it used to when the game launched. Just turned one of my previous vamps back and Seles to still be the case.

    Beyond that there should not be a hard toggle and crown costumes should not hide the appearance. It's a choice to be a vamp which includes the awesome appearance.

    Vampirism is a set of four cosmetic skins. This is effectively identical to the Soul Shriven visual effect. And now the skin collectibles.

    It was never a toggle, or at least not a mechanic players could manually adjust (beyond moving between different stages).

    Feeding it controlled it allowing player control of appearance. I say toggle you do call it something else. In the end what we call it is irrelevant since one can control the appearance easily.

    At stage 1 it's hardly noticeable. Rosy cheeks and light red tint to be eyes.

    You're wrong. This is Morna as she appears as a mortal with the vampirism dropped:
    MornaMortal2_zpscjnyreko.png

    This is Morna at Stage 1 vampirism:
    Morna27_zpsuepoijud.png

    At the very LEAST I want my green eyes back!

    Easy fix: cure vampirism

    I can't agree with that kind of logic. I mean

    Easy fix to Cyrodiil lag: Don't pvp.
    Easy fix to group finder bugs: Don't use group finder.
    Easy fix for weapon swap glitches: Don't equip weapons.

    etc. etc.

    Additionally as per my above post I agree with Morna that vampirism is definitely not "hardly noticeable" at stage one, at least not for Redguards. It's really, really, awfully noticeable :/.

    Dont care if you agree or not becauae it is an easy fix. Doesnt compare with what you tried to compare the issue to because only the vampire issue ia cosmetic.
  • NovaShadow
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    NovaShadow wrote: »
    That is your answer.

    No, but it seems like it might have been yours.

    Quote me exactly where I said curing vamps was the fix?

    You can't, because I never said it.
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  • MornaBaine
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    Hey folks, let's not derail this any further. It's a rare day when a bug comes along people LIKE but the fact that so many of us do highlights that ZOS is missing an opportunity here. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom if you were to sell a "mortal appearance" skin in the crown shop, as well as alternate vampire skins, some like the Skyrim vamp appearance, some other creative ones to maybe mimic some of the other lore-based bloodlines, you'd make a killing. My personal favorite "dream skin" would be one that is as pale as Stage one WITHOUT the reddish veins showing and that did NOT alter my character's eyecolor or wash out her makeup.

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

  • ListerJMC
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Which costumes???

    Costumes purchased from the Crown Store do NOT remove the vampire appearance. However, it seems that ANY disguise acquired during questing will do so.

    Once again, I'll take this opportunity to beg for the ability to be able to TOGGLE the vampire skin, turning it on and off at will. Failing that, I'd gladly buy this ability on the Crown Store.

    Most of the appearance of being a vampire has a toggle, at least it used to when the game launched. Just turned one of my previous vamps back and Seles to still be the case.

    Beyond that there should not be a hard toggle and crown costumes should not hide the appearance. It's a choice to be a vamp which includes the awesome appearance.

    Vampirism is a set of four cosmetic skins. This is effectively identical to the Soul Shriven visual effect. And now the skin collectibles.

    It was never a toggle, or at least not a mechanic players could manually adjust (beyond moving between different stages).

    Feeding it controlled it allowing player control of appearance. I say toggle you do call it something else. In the end what we call it is irrelevant since one can control the appearance easily.

    At stage 1 it's hardly noticeable. Rosy cheeks and light red tint to be eyes.

    You're wrong. This is Morna as she appears as a mortal with the vampirism dropped:
    MornaMortal2_zpscjnyreko.png

    This is Morna at Stage 1 vampirism:
    Morna27_zpsuepoijud.png

    At the very LEAST I want my green eyes back!

    Easy fix: cure vampirism

    I can't agree with that kind of logic. I mean

    Easy fix to Cyrodiil lag: Don't pvp.
    Easy fix to group finder bugs: Don't use group finder.
    Easy fix for weapon swap glitches: Don't equip weapons.

    etc. etc.

    Additionally as per my above post I agree with Morna that vampirism is definitely not "hardly noticeable" at stage one, at least not for Redguards. It's really, really, awfully noticeable :/.

    Dont care if you agree or not becauae it is an easy fix. Doesnt compare with what you tried to compare the issue to because only the vampire issue ia cosmetic.

    The weapon swapping bug is a cosmetic issue, I did have one in there.
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