NA PC BWB second attempt

Adenoma

The refusal to dethrone thing is a long-lasting joke about how a number of EP joked in zone about not pushing Nurse Joy's reign because they said "Nurse Joy is nice." Also, the Australians on AD prevented a dethrone for something like four days.

Edited to say that it's a truly special time when EP and AD actually work together. There is no team purple, green, or orange in BwB.

vamp_emily

Congrats to EP for actually doing something last night.

Nice to see each faction pop locked. This shows the true story that AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even. We destroy them. Why? Because we are trained to do it.

2 bars AD and 2 bars DC = DC wins
3 bars AD and 3 bars DC - DC wins
AD pop locked and DC pop locked = DC WINS!

DC goes to bed = AD night caps and thinks they have skills.. lol
AD pop locked against under populated factions = AD cheering it was a great coordinated campaign and talk about how much skills they have... lol.

You can disagree or agree, but the map does not lie.

#DC-No1

EdmundTowers

vamp_emily wrote: »

Congrats to EP for actually doing something last night.

Nice to see each faction pop locked. This shows the true story that AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even. We destroy them. Why? Because we are trained to do it.

2 bars AD and 2 bars DC = DC wins
3 bars AD and 3 bars DC - DC wins
AD pop locked and DC pop locked = DC WINS!

DC goes to bed = AD night caps and thinks they have skills.. lol
AD pop locked against under populated factions = AD cheering it was a great coordinated campaign and talk about how much skills they have... lol.

You can disagree or agree, but the map does not lie.

#DC-No1

Wow, way to contradict yourself. First you mention all 3 factions were pop locked and congratulate EP for "doing something right" (attack mainly AD). Then in the very next sentence, you completely forget about that 3 bar EP and say "AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even". Yeah, 2 pop locked alliances vs one is even, lol.

I don't know why you complain about EP. They mainly go south even when AD doesn't have emp, scrolls, or first place in campaign score and DC has chalman. The north side of the map is usually crickets, tumbleweeds, and duelers.

Incendiar

Interesting to see you guys hating on EP so much. As a raid leader of one of the more active EP guilds I can say that I've never seen anyone protecting AD/DC emp, not in zone and certainly not in my guild.

EP zone chat recently has been full of people raging at the pugs that are having fun with bridge wars and then get dragged into banging their heads against Alessia while DC has Emp or map control. The experienced raid leaders are always in zone telling the pugs to lay off DC when AD has emp and vice versa.

It's also interesting to see that each faction has all these grand conspiracy theories of team green/purple/orange when in EP I've definitely seen no co-ordination with other factions. The only exception is that when we're dethroning on the last emp keep, we'll occasionally have a 'truce' with whatever opposing faction's raid group is also trying to dethrone. Gloves come off as soon as that dethrone notification comes up though.

vamp_emily

EdmundTowers wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Congrats to EP for actually doing something last night.

Nice to see each faction pop locked. This shows the true story that AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even. We destroy them. Why? Because we are trained to do it.

2 bars AD and 2 bars DC = DC wins
3 bars AD and 3 bars DC - DC wins
AD pop locked and DC pop locked = DC WINS!

DC goes to bed = AD night caps and thinks they have skills.. lol
AD pop locked against under populated factions = AD cheering it was a great coordinated campaign and talk about how much skills they have... lol.

You can disagree or agree, but the map does not lie.

#DC-No1

Wow, way to contradict yourself. First you mention all 3 factions were pop locked and congratulate EP for "doing something right" (attack mainly AD). Then in the very next sentence, you completely forget about that 3 bar EP and say "AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even". lol.

What? I guess you are trying to say EP did not attack us? hmm .. wrong. EP has always been a problem with us, even when we are out numbered by AD.

I was actually shocked EP even knew where Roe was. Great 3 way fight at Roe but sorry DC capped it.

You must remember. We are constantly getting hit buy ADs 3 bars and also EPs 2 bars all the time. So really it has always been 5 bars vs our 3/2 bars.

Oh by the way.. you said "EP attacked mainly AD" not me. I was congratulating EP for doing something, like trying to Emp.

vamp_emily

Incendiar wrote: »

Interesting to see you guys hating on EP so much. As a raid leader of one of the more active EP guilds I can say that I've never seen anyone protecting AD/DC emp, not in zone and certainly not in my guild.

EP zone chat recently has been full of people raging at the pugs that are having fun with bridge wars and then get dragged into banging their heads against Alessia while DC has Emp or map control. The experienced raid leaders are always in zone telling the pugs to lay off DC when AD has emp and vice versa.

It's also interesting to see that each faction has all these grand conspiracy theories of team green/purple/orange when in EP I've definitely seen no co-ordination with other factions. The only exception is that when we're dethroning on the last emp keep, we'll occasionally have a 'truce' with whatever opposing faction's raid group is also trying to dethrone. Gloves come off as soon as that dethrone notification comes up though.

Wake up, I think you are in the wrong campaign. This is PC/NA/BwB.

Mjollo

@Incendiar EP had bad history in the past with zerging the map most nights. We even had a monthly holiday called Paint the Map. It was fun the first time but then everyone took it to the next level and tried to do it every day.

Brazilionaire

vamp_emily wrote: »

Congrats to EP for actually doing something last night.

Nice to see each faction pop locked. This shows the true story that AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even. We destroy them. Why? Because we are trained to do it.

2 bars AD and 2 bars DC = DC wins
3 bars AD and 3 bars DC - DC wins
AD pop locked and DC pop locked = DC WINS!

DC goes to bed = AD night caps and thinks they have skills.. lol
AD pop locked against under populated factions = AD cheering it was a great coordinated campaign and talk about how much skills they have... lol.

You can disagree or agree, but the map does not lie.

#DC-No1

That's not what I saw, and I was on from around 5pm to 12am PST... DC and EP were sieging Roe at the same time to de-emp us, which is understandable. Then DC and EP spent the whole night trying to get scrolls back. EP had a huge zerg and took one of them. At the same time, DC had a pretty big group hitting BB and got rekt a few times. At some point we had 4 people inside the castle and 20+ DC couldn't get in...
My point is that we got hit the most yesterday and you can't compare pop bar when two factions are going for the third to get their scrolls back. One evidence of that is the leaderboard - if you look at it you'll see that all 10 top ADs have twice as much AP as the other two factions... Big & fat d-ticks all around AD

gw2only1b14_ESO

EdmundTowers wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Congrats to EP for actually doing something last night.

Nice to see each faction pop locked. This shows the true story that AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even. We destroy them. Why? Because we are trained to do it.

2 bars AD and 2 bars DC = DC wins
3 bars AD and 3 bars DC - DC wins
AD pop locked and DC pop locked = DC WINS!

DC goes to bed = AD night caps and thinks they have skills.. lol
AD pop locked against under populated factions = AD cheering it was a great coordinated campaign and talk about how much skills they have... lol.

You can disagree or agree, but the map does not lie.

#DC-No1

Wow, way to contradict yourself. First you mention all 3 factions were pop locked and congratulate EP for "doing something right" (attack mainly AD). Then in the very next sentence, you completely forget about that 3 bar EP and say "AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even". Yeah, 2 pop locked alliances vs one is even, lol.

I don't know why you complain about EP. They mainly go south even when AD doesn't have emp, scrolls, or first place in campaign score and DC has chalman. The north side of the map is usually crickets, tumbleweeds, and duelers.

LOL actually this is so true and why Zeni needs to blow up the map from Friday night till Monday EP was never pushing to Chalman and beyond both Dagger and Ebon seem to just fixate and run south.


Which brings back the town capturing system they plan to put in the game with 2 towns south ( WoW really close to the AD scroll keeps) and 1 crappy town way way way up north . It will even get worse.

Ad always gets to fight the good fight and I looks like it wont change

EdmundTowers

vamp_emily wrote: »

You must remember. We are constantly getting hit buy ADs 3 bars and also EPs 2 bars all the time. So really it has always been 5 bars vs our 3/2 bars.

When you have emp yes, otherwise that's total BS.

vamp_emily

Brazilionaire wrote: »

That's not what I saw, and I was on from around 5pm to 12am PST... DC and EP were sieging Roe at the same time to de-emp us, which is understandable. Then DC and EP spent the whole night trying to get scrolls back. EP had a huge zerg and took one of them. At the same time, DC had a pretty big group hitting BB and got rekt a few times. At some point we had 4 people inside the castle and 20+ DC couldn't get in...
My point is that we got hit the most yesterday and you can't compare pop bar when two factions are going for the third to get their scrolls back. One evidence of that is the leaderboard - if you look at it you'll see that all 10 top ADs have twice as much AP as the other two factions... Big & fat d-ticks all around AD

Most players from AD can't see, so I understand.

Well you can thank us for the big fat d-ticks. We are fighters even when the odds ( pop unbalance ) are against us. Most the time AD has one more bar than any other faction.

It was funny last night I was in zone chat saying something like "How many AD does it take to capture a farm?" I was at Roe watching 50 AD players standing on the flag.. funny.

Brazilionaire

vamp_emily wrote: »

Brazilionaire wrote: »

That's not what I saw, and I was on from around 5pm to 12am PST... DC and EP were sieging Roe at the same time to de-emp us, which is understandable. Then DC and EP spent the whole night trying to get scrolls back. EP had a huge zerg and took one of them. At the same time, DC had a pretty big group hitting BB and got rekt a few times. At some point we had 4 people inside the castle and 20+ DC couldn't get in...
My point is that we got hit the most yesterday and you can't compare pop bar when two factions are going for the third to get their scrolls back. One evidence of that is the leaderboard - if you look at it you'll see that all 10 top ADs have twice as much AP as the other two factions... Big & fat d-ticks all around AD

Most players from AD can't see, so I understand.

Well you can thank us for the big fat d-ticks. We are fighters even when the odds ( pop unbalance ) are against us. Most the time AD has one more bar than any other faction.

It was funny last night I was in zone chat saying something like "How many AD does it take to capture a farm?" I was at Roe watching 50 AD players standing on the flag.. funny.

You may be right. We clearly have different perspectives because were both biased. I wish Zenimax released metrics on this so we can see who got higher pop most of the time, by how much, what faction got hit the most, etc. Maybe I'll just write an add-on that logs pop bars and zerg sizes

gw2only1b14_ESO

Brazilionaire wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Brazilionaire wrote: »

That's not what I saw, and I was on from around 5pm to 12am PST... DC and EP were sieging Roe at the same time to de-emp us, which is understandable. Then DC and EP spent the whole night trying to get scrolls back. EP had a huge zerg and took one of them. At the same time, DC had a pretty big group hitting BB and got rekt a few times. At some point we had 4 people inside the castle and 20+ DC couldn't get in...
My point is that we got hit the most yesterday and you can't compare pop bar when two factions are going for the third to get their scrolls back. One evidence of that is the leaderboard - if you look at it you'll see that all 10 top ADs have twice as much AP as the other two factions... Big & fat d-ticks all around AD

Most players from AD can't see, so I understand.

Well you can thank us for the big fat d-ticks. We are fighters even when the odds ( pop unbalance ) are against us. Most the time AD has one more bar than any other faction.

It was funny last night I was in zone chat saying something like "How many AD does it take to capture a farm?" I was at Roe watching 50 AD players standing on the flag.. funny.

You may be right. We clearly have different perspectives because were both biased. I wish Zenimax released metrics on this so we can see who got higher pop most of the time, by how much, what faction got hit the most, etc. Maybe I'll just write an add-on that logs pop bars and zerg sizes

Nice Idea but how would it tell the numbers above ground compared to the ones in the instances or in IC

Valen_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

Congrats to EP for actually doing something last night.

Nice to see each faction pop locked. This shows the true story that AD can not compete with DC when the sides are even. We destroy them. Why? Because we are trained to do it.

2 bars AD and 2 bars DC = DC wins
3 bars AD and 3 bars DC - DC wins
AD pop locked and DC pop locked = DC WINS!

DC goes to bed = AD night caps and thinks they have skills.. lol
AD pop locked against under populated factions = AD cheering it was a great coordinated campaign and talk about how much skills they have... lol.

You can disagree or agree, but the map does not lie.

#DC-No1

You were doing so well. You just has to pull out your old bag of BS.

If EP and DC ever fight, this could be true. However, EP attacks nothing but AD. DC attacks nothing but AD. The top of the map never looks any different. Do I need to go back to posting screen shots everyday of Bleakers being blue, chal being red? That is how the map is 99% of the time. So dont start that sht. If DC has 2 bars, and EP has 2 bars and AD has 2 bars...that means AD is fighting 4 bars of enemy.

Dont start this crap again. We have been over this a million times. Dead horse...let it lie.

Stridig

Just so you all know.... there are some in Azura's Star who think we are all a bunch of noobs.

vamp_emily

Valen_Byte wrote: »

You were doing so well. You just has to pull out your old bag of BS.

If EP and DC ever fight, this could be true. However, EP attacks nothing but AD.

I disagree with you in so many ways, really there is no reason to comment. But i do have to say that I learned a little more about my kill counter. Guess who is the person I killed the most Screen shots available upon request.

Valen_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

You were doing so well. You just has to pull out your old bag of BS.

If EP and DC ever fight, this could be true. However, EP attacks nothing but AD.

I disagree with you in so many ways, really there is no reason to comment. But i do have to say that I learned a little more about my kill counter. Guess who is the person I killed the most Screen shots available upon request.

Ok I will post a SC everyday of the map. It will show that DC and EP don't fight. Please do share your kill counter info...then I will show mine. We will see who killed who the most ; )) Then I will post something special if we are going to start this BS arguing back and forth. I have been collecting ammo for months.

Valen_Byte

Stridig wrote: »

Just so you all know.... there are some in Azura's Star who think we are all a bunch of noobs.

Thats because they cant hack it in BwB....you know...the hardcore server ; ))

gw2only1b14_ESO

Stridig wrote: »

Just so you all know.... there are some in Azura's Star who think we are all a bunch of noobs.

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

You were doing so well. You just has to pull out your old bag of BS.

If EP and DC ever fight, this could be true. However, EP attacks nothing but AD.

I disagree with you in so many ways, really there is no reason to comment. But i do have to say that I learned a little more about my kill counter. Guess who is the person I killed the most Screen shots available upon request.

Ballista shots are for nooblets ask your bud Sora 1v1 is the skillzzz



Hell My healer had 31 kbs and a 100 ks due to Dagger face rolling thru the wall at Nikel a week and 1/2 ago and guess what? some named the ***** heals was on there 3 times

But yea them kill trackers nice

kit_sune

AD has emp.
Dc pushes Chal and arrius
DC=Useless

If we're going to argue using that logic

vamp_emily

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Ok I will post a SC everyday of the map. It will show that DC and EP don't fight. Please do share your kill counter info...then I will show mine. We will see who killed who the most ; )) Then I will post something special if we are going to start this BS arguing back and forth. I have been collecting ammo for months.

You and I are like:

Mustard and Peanut Butter
Pizza and Vodka
Mayo and chocolate cake

We were not meant for each other. I'm sure your kill counter has my name all over it. One thing you will find out about me is I don't lie I'm not the best player but I'm getting better.

gw2only1b14_ESO

skepticalfox wrote: »

AD has emp.
Dc pushes Chal and arrius
DC=Useless

If we're going to argue using that logic

and Fox comes outta left field. actually Chalman is due for a 3 way again

gw2only1b14_ESO

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Ok I will post a SC everyday of the map. It will show that DC and EP don't fight. Please do share your kill counter info...then I will show mine. We will see who killed who the most ; )) Then I will post something special if we are going to start this BS arguing back and forth. I have been collecting ammo for months.

You and I are like:

Mustard and Peanut Butter
Pizza and Vodka
Mayo and chocolate cake

We were not meant for each other. I'm sure your kill counter has my name all over it. One thing you will find out about me is I don't lie I'm not the best player but I'm getting better.

Pizza goes with EVERYTHING

Valen_Byte

vamp_emily wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Ok I will post a SC everyday of the map. It will show that DC and EP don't fight. Please do share your kill counter info...then I will show mine. We will see who killed who the most ; )) Then I will post something special if we are going to start this BS arguing back and forth. I have been collecting ammo for months.

You and I are like:

Mustard and Peanut Butter
Pizza and Vodka
Mayo and chocolate cake

We were not meant for each other. I'm sure your kill counter has my name all over it. One thing you will find out about me is I don't lie I'm not the best player but I'm getting better.

You are getting better. We have also been doing better here on the forums. I think that is mainly because you and I have not been posting ego driven posts. You know I'm not the best either. You have seen me die many times.

Neither one of us needs to come on here and talk about population or how imbalanced it can be. I dont think it matters to either one of us. We will both still log on and do our best to move the map and have some good fights. Hopefuly we can at least agree on that.

Btw..those things could go together if in the right situation. Like if you were on a deserted island or on the moon or something.

W0lf_z13

@Lumsdenml btw... i think i saw a relative of the deer that almost ganked you the night u posted that.... it ran away from me instead of towards me though

gw2only1b14_ESO

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

@Lumsdenml btw... i think i saw a relative of the deer that almost ganked you the night u posted that.... it ran away from me instead of towards me though

Must have been 1 of the pve'rs gathering skyshards....

W0lf_z13

lmao @gw2only1b14_ESO

Adenoma

skepticalfox wrote: »

AD has emp.
Dc pushes Chal and arrius
DC=Useless

If we're going to argue using that logic

I think @vamp_emily forgets that DC believes Chalman is a home keep. Given how often they push it, AD emp or no, I'm inclined to believe the same at this point.

Let's be clear that our master mason was dethroned last night because of EP attacks, not DC. I forget who ended up taking Roe, but it was EP that kept it flagged and in active combat for an hour. It wasn't the DC that kept dying at Nikel or the lucky ones that wiped at front door that tipped the tables.

I think all alliances do similarly silly and nonsensical things.

vamp_emily

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Hopefuly we can at least agree on that.

Btw..those things could go together if in the right situation. Like if you were on a deserted island or on the moon or something.

Sometimes, I do overreact. But I agree.

Honestly I don't think Vodka goes with anything. The sound of Vodka makes my tummy turn.

Long story short. I used to be a human and the owner of the company I work for bought a round of drinks. He said "Tequila" but the bartender brought us Vodka.

I haven't been the same since. It really is embarrassing when you get sick in front of the person you work for.

EdmundTowers

vamp_emily wrote: »

Most the time AD has one more bar than any other faction.

While this is true, we also have the most newish players, who run around in crappy gear and don't even know where to buy/how to fire a stone trebs. When there is no emp, there may not be an official purple alliance, but there is way more crossswords south of the map then north. Even when DC is first place in campaign score. I think I know why. EP would rather fight AD's mob of newish players than take back their home keeps and scrolls from DC. That's why EP has been last place every single campaign.

And you shouldn't be complaining about AD zerging as if we were the only ones. The faction with the most pop keeps changing between DC and AD every few weeks. Two weeks ago: