NA PC BWB second attempt

Vyle_Byte

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Oh... totally forgot to post this... Went with ZZ (The Disenfranchised) down to Alessia (I think) yesterday and we're working on the outside wall and huge group of ad pushed us back to the resource we had taken earlier. We were being overwhelmed and we were falling back into the tower as I was covering us with a fire ballista. I waited too long to get off and was killed right at the door step. So ad took the resource and filed into the tower as the rest of the group hit them with aoe, oil and ballista. I was giving intel in ts while dead and racking up the ap as they killed ad after ad.... then, all of a sudden I began to glow and I got the level up music... and all of a sudden I was alive, standing on the porch surrounded by ad and couldn't use the door... and was promptly slaughtered. no one said they rezed me, so unless some random pug did it through the door as ad was streaming in.... leveling up will rez you!

Lol! Leveling up does indeed rez you! Its happened to me a few times, usually in a 'oh shiz" situation!

Lumsdenml

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Oh... totally forgot to post this... Went with ZZ (The Disenfranchised) down to Alessia (I think) yesterday and we're working on the outside wall and huge group of ad pushed us back to the resource we had taken earlier. We were being overwhelmed and we were falling back into the tower as I was covering us with a fire ballista. I waited too long to get off and was killed right at the door step. So ad took the resource and filed into the tower as the rest of the group hit them with aoe, oil and ballista. I was giving intel in ts while dead and racking up the ap as they killed ad after ad.... then, all of a sudden I began to glow and I got the level up music... and all of a sudden I was alive, standing on the porch surrounded by ad and couldn't use the door... and was promptly slaughtered. no one said they rezed me, so unless some random pug did it through the door as ad was streaming in.... leveling up will rez you!

Lol! Leveling up does indeed rez you! Its happened to me a few times, usually in a 'oh shiz" situation!

Ha! I had no idea... I was just happily dead, soaking in the free ap and then all of a sudden I'm standing and getting pummeled.

Lumsdenml

Another quick story... as I was driving with my family across the state today, in the middle of nowhere a deer jumps out onto the freeway in front of me I hit the breaks and swerve, just missing the deer. My wife looks at me in horror, death grip on the arms of her chair ... in a knee jerk reaction I blurt out "WE ALMOST GOT GANKED BY THAT DEER!" The look of disdain dripping from her face was palpable... I think I might play ESO a bit too much when I begin relating real life danger with the dangers in cyrodiil...

vamp_emily

ZOS please remove EP from BwB. They are completely worthless.

DC has Emp = EP and AD quickly try to dethrone.
AD has Emp = EP drinks beer and sits on rocks telling jokes, then talk about how pretty Chal looks when it is yellow.

AD is trying to get Emp - EP attacks Glade farm.

I seriously wonder what they are thinking sometimes. Remove EP from BwB! Then all we have to worry about is AD pop locks.

Celestial_Rift

vamp_emily wrote: »

ZOS please remove EP from BwB. They are completely worthless.

DC has Emp = EP and AD quickly try to dethrone.
AD has Emp = EP drinks beer and sits on walks telling jokes, and talk about how pretty Chal looks when it is yellow.

AD is trying to get Emp - EP attacks Glade farm.

You forgot to mention.... DC has emp, EP goes to Alessia.

Adenoma

@vamp_emily , I think some guild members and I pretty strongly discouraged EP at Chal. This game is supposed to be fun and I don't think they had a lot of fun last night repeatedly wiping to 3-6 people.

On a side note, I've noticed a huge influx of newer players after the Steam sale and I think the addition of Japanese players to PC/NA. They did do both of those things, right? I'm just taking someone else's word on that. Either way, it's been fun to be at high server pop and we can always find fights.

kit_sune

vamp_emily wrote: »

ZOS please remove EP from BwB. They are completely worthless.

DC has Emp = EP and AD quickly try to dethrone.
AD has Emp = EP drinks beer and sits on walks telling jokes, and talk about how pretty Chal looks when it is yellow.

AD is trying to get Emp - EP attacks Glade farm.

I seriously wonder what they are thinking sometimes. Remove EP from BwB! Then all we have to worry about is AD pop locks.

This happens to every faction. Just like DC when they push Arrius when AD has emp

vamp_emily

skepticalfox wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

ZOS please remove EP from BwB. They are completely worthless.

DC has Emp = EP and AD quickly try to dethrone.
AD has Emp = EP drinks beer and sits on walks telling jokes, and talk about how pretty Chal looks when it is yellow.

AD is trying to get Emp - EP attacks Glade farm.

I seriously wonder what they are thinking sometimes. Remove EP from BwB! Then all we have to worry about is AD pop locks.

This happens to every faction. Just like DC when they push Arrius when AD has emp

I understand that every alliance does this and that.

I learned something in school called "technical analysis". If you don't know, it is a technique used to predict stock prices on the stock market. I like to use it, as a tool, on other things. EP clearly has proven time over time they are worthless, the trend is so noticeable.

Of course, I don't see what they are always doing. But they always work against DC in a time when we should indirectly be working with us.

Just last week you guys were pop locked, pushing hard for Emp. We defeated you at Glade a few times, and a few times at Ales. In the end, It appeared you guys had every freaking AD possible at Ales to crown emp. What the heck was EP doing ? Three bars and all they took was glade farm?

Heck I think I did more then the entire EP alliance at the time. I had Ash, Nik and Roe prepped but we didn't have the people to do anything with it.

Last night I had to shake my head, when EP took DC and went to attack Ales. Maybe there is another unspoken rule that DC does not know about?

W0lf_z13

I'm not sure if its the same on other factions... but since summer began and the steam sale hit there have been SO many toxic players coming into BwB ... its gotten so bad that often i have to shut off zone chat and only have a group/guild chat open.... Everyone constantly arguing and calling people names ... its the worst i've ever seen the zone chat

Adenoma

AD zone has been either pretty unified. At least, I know that pretty much all the major zone guilds' leaders are friendly and we cooperate pretty easily. For the most part, we always have someone in zone picking up the LFGs and I think that tempers a lot of the vitriol.

W0lf_z13

yeah there is constant arguing and bashing going on ... people getting kicked from groups then being called a moron or an idiot or a "***" ... one person said and i am actually quoting him on this that people in the group he was in "must be autistic" ... a few of my guild ( PUGz of Daggerfall ) went off on the kid cause of what he said... its just been an extremely toxic environment lately

Dojohoda

Lumsdenml wrote: »

... in a knee jerk reaction I blurt out "WE ALMOST GOT GANKED BY THAT DEER!"

LOL, that is hilarious.

Glad you avoided the OP deer.

treborrealb14_ESO

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Another quick story... as I was driving with my family across the state today, in the middle of nowhere a deer jumps out onto the freeway in front of me I hit the breaks and swerve, just missing the deer. My wife looks at me in horror, death grip on the arms of her chair ... in a knee jerk reaction I blurt out "WE ALMOST GOT GANKED BY THAT DEER!" The look of disdain dripping from her face was palpable... I think I might play ESO a bit too much when I begin relating real life danger with the dangers in cyrodiil...

Yea lucky for you he wasn't running with proxy det on.....

treborrealb14_ESO

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

yeah there is constant arguing and bashing going on ... people getting kicked from groups then being called a moron or an idiot or a "***" ... one person said and i am actually quoting him on this that people in the group he was in "must be autistic" ... a few of my guild ( PUGz of Daggerfall ) went off on the kid cause of what he said... its just been an extremely toxic environment lately

Funny thing is there almost all the ones that left early, quite last year,played at beta or launch then left etc. . So for the next few months it will be same o same o

W0lf_z13

treborrealb14_ESO wrote: »

Yea lucky for you he wasn't running with proxy det on.....

LMMFAO!!!! must have been a NB .... nerf deer NB's!!!

Freakquent

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Oh... totally forgot to post this... Went with ZZ (The Disenfranchised) down to Alessia (I think) yesterday and we're working on the outside wall and huge group of ad pushed us back to the resource we had taken earlier. We were being overwhelmed and we were falling back into the tower as I was covering us with a fire ballista. I waited too long to get off and was killed right at the door step. So ad took the resource and filed into the tower as the rest of the group hit them with aoe, oil and ballista. I was giving intel in ts while dead and racking up the ap as they killed ad after ad.... then, all of a sudden I began to glow and I got the level up music... and all of a sudden I was alive, standing on the porch surrounded by ad and couldn't use the door... and was promptly slaughtered. no one said they rezed me, so unless some random pug did it through the door as ad was streaming in.... leveling up will rez you!

Yes, leveling up rezzes you.

Brazilionaire

Great campaign, everyone.

Congrats to Maicon and Sora for emping... Not sure if anyone else emped, just sure it wasn't EP

Stridig

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

treborrealb14_ESO wrote: »

Yea lucky for you he wasn't running with proxy det on.....

LMMFAO!!!! must have been a NB .... nerf deer NB's!!!

Wait I thought the deer had already been neerfed to reduce lag.

W0lf_z13

@Stridig no. ...that was his cousin Buck. ...he was a sorc....i think i over heard that the rest of the fam joined the Dark Brotherhood and they are out for vengeance

WhitePawPrints

@vamp_emily

I have played since Early Access and I can tell you that EP behavior is nothing new. Each faction has their players but EP consistently does things to simply annoy other factions, attacking keeps actoss the maps, getting involved in batted just to sabotage both sides, attempting to steal keeps, night capping, etc. All certainly legitimate play, but plays that have made me lose respect for the faction as a whole. Not to mention that the EP have consistently had more players using exploits than the other two factions combined.

Kick them? I don't think necessary but AD and DC should probably team up to put them back in their place now and then.

Stridig

AD and DC do not need to "team up" to put EP in their place. EP is playing how they want as a faction and that's fine. Annoying but its fine. A small group of PUGz is all that is needed to keep them in check. (That last part is an effort to make EP to come hunting for me) hehe.

WhitePawPrints

@W0lf_z13

I do not play often anymore but I have also noticed the influx of angry players. I have received more rage whispers this past week (and I only put about 8 hours in) than I have gotten probably since release.

My favorite is when I kill night blades, and they rage whisper me. One from EP did because the magblade was upset that I, with the help of others, kept defeating him after he exploits teleport to get into keeps. I have seen this EP re roll dozens of characters and has min maxed the hell out of the game... I have more of a life and play more than just ESO.

The best though is an AD that rage whispered me. She made a habit of being annoying by knocking people off their horses and immediately cloaking and hiding around Nikel, not doing any damage but being a general annoyance. I hard counter magblades with Mark, and this player used Purge and would continue to spam cloak while trying to run away and hide. To counter I would use Mark every time I saw the Purge a nation and use detect potions if she hid. Killed her numerous times before she completely raged whispering me calling me the worst NB for spamming Mark, and saying that I run away from fights. She seems to have forgotten that she attack pugs once before running away and spamming cloak. Thinking to counter my counter, and not have it work, does not make you a good player. She was so pissed she attacked me backed by an entire raid only to be killed because she couldn't spam cloak, courtesy of my Mark. Then rage quit as some in the zone said they tried to whisper the annoying NB but suddenly couldn't. Fun times. Worst attitude I have seen from any AD player. I imagine she would fit in better with EP

ŞσƦѦ

Yesterday I was talking to one of the AD guild leaders who are pretty active on this thread (not sure if they want me to call them out) & he was telling me how the main players who run groups on EP intentionally do not even try to dethrone AD when they are friends with the person who emp'd. This happens all too often, we see it almost every time AD emps (EP will either not attempt to dethrone or step in and protect AD from being dethroned). People's alliances are to friends and not to their faction and that's why in BwB it's mostly DC vs AD+EP. Sure AD and EP fight but more often than not, it's DC vs orange. I'm not saying players are wrong for being loyal to their friends. I have friends on other factions and when we see each other we usually avoid fighting, but if they are participating in taking a DC keep, scroll, resource, etc we both have a mutual understanding that we must fight each other under them circumstances. In my opinion that is how things should be.

If ZoS would stop allowing players to create toons on multiple factions that would really help create balance and make loyalty to your faction actually mean something. It doesn't even make sense that players could create toons on more than 1 faction in faction vs faction pvp. You should only be able to create toons on one faction. If a player wishes to change factions, they should have to do a long annoying betrayal quest on all of their toons to the desired faction before being allowed to create a toon on another faction.

ŞσƦѦ

Brazilionaire wrote: »

Great campaign, everyone.

Congrats to Maicon and Sora for emping... Not sure if anyone else emped, just sure it wasn't EP

Thanks. Didn't last long (as you know you guys were like 30secs from preventing it haha) but being able to get there knowing how many of the major EP and AD guilds tried their hardest to stop it was satisfying.

Sreja_Bone

EP's problem (and AD as well), is a quarter of their population spends all their time running back and forth between Sej and Alessia.

I kid (mostly.) Note that I am guilty of this myself when I get bored and just want to tussle; like last night from about 6 to 9 EST. Immense fun sometimes just to have medium sized, open field fights instead of worrying over AP, keeps, Emps, and campaigns.

Of course, that's probably my Call of Duty background rearing it's uncouth head.But you know, if that's what they find enjoyable, well, that's why we're all here in the first place, right? Otherwise you work yourself into a big over-serious fit that looks a lot like narcissism.

Brazilionaire

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Yesterday I was talking to one of the AD guild leaders who are pretty active on this thread (not sure if they want me to call them out) & he was telling me how the main players who run groups on EP intentionally do not even try to dethrone AD when they are friends with the person who emp'd. This happens all too often, we see it almost every time AD emps (EP will either not attempt to dethrone or step in and protect AD from being dethroned). People's alliances are to friends and not to their faction and that's why in BwB it's mostly DC vs AD+EP. Sure AD and EP fight but more often than not, it's DC vs orange. I'm not saying players are wrong for being loyal to their friends. I have friends on other factions and when we see each other we usually avoid fighting, but if they are participating in taking a DC keep, scroll, resource, etc we both have a mutual understanding that we must fight each other under them circumstances. In my opinion that is how things should be.

If ZoS would stop allowing players to create toons on multiple factions that would really help create balance and make loyalty to your faction actually mean something. It doesn't even make sense that players could create toons on more than 1 faction in faction vs faction pvp. You should only be able to create toons on one faction. If a player wishes to change factions, they should have to do a long annoying betrayal quest on all of their toons to the desired faction before being allowed to create a toon on another faction.

Interesting. Up until now I was very sure EP and DC worked together most of the time. One example was EP obsessing over Alessia when we had it, while we were trying to prevent you guys from emping. I played EP for a week a month ago - the only thing they talked about was how much they hate AD. There's even a dude who created a toon named "AD Killer".
But maybe it's a matter of perspective. I think they're very disorganized and don't really seem to have an objective, they might hit us when they should be hitting DC and vice-versa.

ŞσƦѦ

Brazilionaire wrote: »

Interesting. Up until now I was very sure EP and DC worked together most of the time. One example was EP obsessing over Alessia when we had it, while we were trying to prevent you guys from emping. I played EP for a week a month ago - the only thing they talked about was how much they hate AD. There's even a dude who created a toon named "AD Killer".
But maybe it's a matter of perspective. I think they're very disorganized and don't really seem to have an objective, they might hit us when they should be hitting DC and vice-versa.

I believe you because I personally show up to protect EP keeps and if I see EP and AD fighting I always go for AD first. My reasoning is probably the same as the people you spoke with; AD zergs the map to death and everyone is sick of fighting 50-100 man zergs. The people you spoke to (I'm assuming) were just random players from zone chat, not the ones you constantly see faction hopping between AD & EP every other campaign.

The random EP players aren't who I was speaking about in what you quoted, it's the organized players who organize groups that are always fighting against DC and protecting AD while we try to dethrone.

Freakquent

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Yesterday I was talking to one of the AD guild leaders who are pretty active on this thread (not sure if they want me to call them out) & he was telling me how the main players who run groups on EP intentionally do not even try to dethrone AD when they are friends with the person who emp'd. This happens all too often, we see it almost every time AD emps (EP will either not attempt to dethrone or step in and protect AD from being dethroned). People's alliances are to friends and not to their faction and that's why in BwB it's mostly DC vs AD+EP. Sure AD and EP fight but more often than not, it's DC vs orange. I'm not saying players are wrong for being loyal to their friends. I have friends on other factions and when we see each other we usually avoid fighting, but if they are participating in taking a DC keep, scroll, resource, etc we both have a mutual understanding that we must fight each other under them circumstances. In my opinion that is how things should be.

If ZoS would stop allowing players to create toons on multiple factions that would really help create balance and make loyalty to your faction actually mean something. It doesn't even make sense that players could create toons on more than 1 faction in faction vs faction pvp. You should only be able to create toons on one faction. If a player wishes to change factions, they should have to do a long annoying betrayal quest on all of their toons to the desired faction before being allowed to create a toon on another faction.

I disagree, to AD it seems more times than not, that team purple is against us.

Stridig

Freakquent wrote: »

ŞσƦѦ wrote: »

Yesterday I was talking to one of the AD guild leaders who are pretty active on this thread (not sure if they want me to call them out) & he was telling me how the main players who run groups on EP intentionally do not even try to dethrone AD when they are friends with the person who emp'd. This happens all too often, we see it almost every time AD emps (EP will either not attempt to dethrone or step in and protect AD from being dethroned). People's alliances are to friends and not to their faction and that's why in BwB it's mostly DC vs AD+EP. Sure AD and EP fight but more often than not, it's DC vs orange. I'm not saying players are wrong for being loyal to their friends. I have friends on other factions and when we see each other we usually avoid fighting, but if they are participating in taking a DC keep, scroll, resource, etc we both have a mutual understanding that we must fight each other under them circumstances. In my opinion that is how things should be.

If ZoS would stop allowing players to create toons on multiple factions that would really help create balance and make loyalty to your faction actually mean something. It doesn't even make sense that players could create toons on more than 1 faction in faction vs faction pvp. You should only be able to create toons on one faction. If a player wishes to change factions, they should have to do a long annoying betrayal quest on all of their toons to the desired faction before being allowed to create a toon on another faction.

I disagree, to AD it seems more times than not, that team purple is against us.

Wrong. Unless you consider taking our home keeps back as an alliance between blue an red.

ŞσƦѦ

Freakquent wrote: »

I disagree, to AD it seems more times than not, that team purple is against us.

I'll have to agree to disagree. I started on AD then moved to DC so I experienced it from both perspectives and it was always (in my experience) AD+EP vs DC. There are many players I could point out by name who frequently swap between EP/AD and lead groups against DC while on EP coordinating with their AD friend's groups if it wasn't against the forum rules to "name and shame".

At times (depending on who is online) I'm sure DC and EP indirectly work together, but I don't know any players on DC who directly coordinate with EP against AD.

In fact, not too long ago there was a certain guild (those who were on DC a month or two ago know what I'm talking about) who was forming pugs from DC zone chat then leading them to their friends on EP/AD and logging over to kill them.

In the end people will believe what they want. I've said my piece.