NA PC BWB second attempt

W0lf_z13

sometimes the heat of the moment will get to u .... like the other day when i went on a dizzying swing spam fest... it was just the rudeness from a few people that put me in that mood...but... i made sure if i recognized the name in a good way to not be the 1 button masher ... also last night @Celestial_Rift whispered me after me and and a few others killed her calling me a zerger... didnt see the name at first so i went to start going off on them in response... then i recognized the name and knew she was joking lol... good thing cause that would have been an angry message in response lmao

Stridig

I agree that DC zone has been pretty bad. It doesn't bother me too much though. Our groups put in work and tend to silence most of them. Unfortunately I have been forced to take an unwanted break because of all my stupid neighbors who want to do all their stupid yard work. I can no longer avoid home ownership duties. I am half tempted to deaden all of their yards to look like Mordor one of these nights.

vamp_emily

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

1 button masher

Do I need to confess again?

This is what I don't understand. I see people spamming the same skills over and over and over. Honestly I think there is nothing wrong with spamming.

The ganker I killed talked about how I spammed jabbed him. I said, "which skill did you spam before I forced you to use the bow". He said he used 3 skills. Well guess what dead guy, I did too. Unstoppable, BOL, and Jabs.

But really Its my character, and I should be able to be a 1 button masher if I want too.

I remember one guy from AD that spammed Teleport strikes all day long. That was kind of annoying, every time I seen the guy I was like.. jeez get off me.

W0lf_z13

lol @vamp_emily

vamp_emily

Zone chat doesn't bother me because I know I'm part of the problem. ( some times )

However, one thing that bothers me is when players disrespecting other players.

Just the other day I decided to do Sprindle and some tank called me an F'n Idiot ( long story ) but it was all over once he disrespected me.

In zone chat, I just like to joke around sometimes. If it does get kind of crazy I will go back to my corner and hide.

W0lf_z13

yeah.... i very much dislike being disrespected ... esp since i am respectful of others ... only times i bare my fangs is when someone is disrespectful... either to me or my friends... thats when this wolf will bite

Lumsdenml

EP zone chat hasn't been offensive lately (what I've noticed anyway), just dumb. "Everyone to Alessia!!!! Take Alessia!!!!" As DC has chal.... I put in my $0.02 and said we should focus on our home keeps and they replied "After Alessia!!" Then being a bit annoyed said if that ever makes sense to anyone let me know. Then I get this whisper saying they were just having fun, can't they have fun? I replied it was fun a half hour ago, but just dumb now... they stopped after that....

Stridig

It's amazing how many people in DC think that Chal is a home keep. A DC home keep.

Mjollo

Zone chat is the best. I cant speak for DC or AD but both vet and non-vet EP zone chat is where I like to live. People always being serious and mature. Thats where I like to come in toss everyone's hat in the air. Most of the newbies just figure I'm crazy all of the time but everyone else knows I'm usually the one responsible for most of the things that get done on EP lol. It's always good fun.

Adenoma

This 100% isn't directed at just the previous post (there have been earlier episodes of this sort of stuff), but when did this thread become the place for self-aggrandizement? Can't we just talk about campaign stuff without worrying people puffing their chests or calling others dogs?

W0lf_z13

had an AWESOME fight with emily and 2 AD members last night around Roe ... one was a sorc the other a temp ... lasted a GOOD while but those 2 won ....in the end at least one of them did /cheer ... which made me feel good... had been a few days since i saw respect from and AD member who killed me ... dont remember their names and tried to whisper one of them to say a good fight ... so if they are in this forum ( i was on my temp Ookami of Blackwater ) amazing fight and great job.. that was a blast

adarkartist

awww lost EMP overnight was fun while it lasted

Mjollo

Adenoma wrote: »

This 100% isn't directed at just the previous post (there have been earlier episodes of this sort of stuff), but when did this thread become the place for self-aggrandizement? Can't we just talk about campaign stuff without worrying people puffing their chests or calling others dogs?

It's already been like this since the second thread was started though. ZoS watches this one like a hawk now so no one dare share anything worth debating over. Now it's either compliments or reminiscing over old days. I tend to lean towards the latter since I haven't played in a while so I can't really appraise everyone. I also like keeping myself updated with the campaign so I can jump right in when I get back.

vamp_emily

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

had an AWESOME fight with emily and 2 AD members last night around Roe ... one was a sorc the other a temp ... lasted a GOOD while but those 2 won ....in the end at least one of them did /cheer ... which made me feel good... had been a few days since i saw respect from and AD member who killed me ... dont remember their names and tried to whisper one of them to say a good fight ... so if they are in this forum ( i was on my temp Ookami of Blackwater ) amazing fight and great job.. that was a blast

Ya that was fun. My mag drink went empty on me and had a hard time fighting. I really thought we had them, the Sorc was running low on health and kept going around the tree. That is when my mag regen went bad. After I died I watched you fight both of them and then a few minutes later I was thinking, what am i doing just laying here. So I got up to come back and help you .. but got killed on the way back.

I felt sorry for a few of those AD, most of the night I and a few others were picking them off as they road into Roe LM.

kit_sune

I just want to say that I enjoy dragon leaping into the inner of keeps. Had a nice little fight up at Rayles with the blue defending. On that note: there is massive animosity between blue and yellow now. With both factions ready to over Zerg each other of pure spite. I tried my best to tell ad zone not to gate farm dc even if they have been doing that to us. That kills the fun for us who do not run in big groups.

May the Pact be restored to what it was pre-tg. At least then we'll have a balanced server

Stridig

Pretty quiet thread today

Adenoma

@skepticalfox , I've gotta agree. I think AD has done a decent job of staying off of DC's gates - especially as we close in on primetime. I know that our glorious leader, Vic Rattlehead, has not participated in gate pushes after we got the scrolls. It's unfortunate that we can't control the folks that call for pushing Glade and don't know better.

ColoursYouHave

vamp_emily wrote: »

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

1 button masher

Do I need to confess again?

This is what I don't understand. I see people spamming the same skills over and over and over. Honestly I think there is nothing wrong with spamming.

The ganker I killed talked about how I spammed jabbed him. I said, "which skill did you spam before I forced you to use the bow". He said he used 3 skills. Well guess what dead guy, I did too. Unstoppable, BOL, and Jabs.

But really Its my character, and I should be able to be a 1 button masher if I want too.

I remember one guy from AD that spammed Teleport strikes all day long. That was kind of annoying, every time I seen the guy I was like.. jeez get off me.

I love when people cry about spamming skills. The only time I've ever been able to kill somebody solely by spamming a damage skill is when they weren't putting up a good fight. Like, if an enemy isn't applying pressure, and isn't doing well playing defensively, why wouldn't I just jabs spam them to death? Why would I prolong the fight by using something other than my main damage skill when I have no reason to use something other than my main damage skill? Don't like somebody spamming a skill to kill you? Play better and they won't be able to kill you by spamming DPS because they'll actually have to play strategically... If you are applying pressure and mitigating/healing/avoiding my damage well, spamming something like jabs will just get me killed. What do people expect, you to just stand there and do nothing while they try to light attack you to death? Maybe throw in the occasional heal or dodge roll when they start to put a dent in your health bar? Damage is how you kill people in this game, so don't be shocked when somebody uses their highest damage skill to kill you, especially when you're barely even fighting back.

That being said, I have been killed by players spamming a DPS skill, and my reaction has always been "wow, I better learn to play better against that skill" rather than "wow, my opponent tried to do damage to me, how unfair, they must be terrible."

vamp_emily

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

I love when people cry about spamming skills. The only time I've ever been able to kill somebody solely by spamming a damage skill is when they weren't putting up a good fight. Like, if an enemy isn't applying pressure, and isn't doing well playing defensively, why wouldn't I just jabs spam them to death? Why would I prolong the fight by using something other than my main damage skill when I have no reason to use something other than my main damage skill? Don't like somebody spamming a skill to kill you? Play better and they won't be able to kill you by spamming DPS because they'll actually have to play strategically... If you are applying pressure and mitigating/healing/avoiding my damage well, spamming something like jabs will just get me killed. What do people expect, you to just stand there and do nothing while they try to light attack you to death? Maybe throw in the occasional heal or dodge roll when they start to put a dent in your health bar? Damage is how you kill people in this game, so don't be shocked when somebody uses their highest damage skill to kill you, especially when you're barely even fighting back.

That being said, I have been killed by players spamming a DPS skill, and my reaction has always been "wow, I better learn to play better against that skill" rather than "wow, my opponent tried to do damage to me, how unfair, they must be terrible."

Well to be honest with you, the ones that are not spamming, and use different skills, seem to be better fighters. They seem to know more about how things work. I haven't made to that point yet, but I think I'm still learning even after a year of playing.

vamp_emily

I think ZOS needs to do a drug test on all AD players.

Geez they were hitting hard last night. AD on steroids?

ŞσƦѦ

vamp_emily wrote: »

Well to be honest with you, the ones that are not spamming, and use different skills, seem to be better fighters. They seem to know more about how things work. I haven't made to that point yet, but I think I'm still learning even after a year of playing.

You have 10 buttons.
The 5 back bar buttons are generally buffs/utility and a ranged attack or dot.
The 5 front bar buttons are generally a gap closer, finisher, utility/buff/heal, utility/buff/heal or aoe, and 1 dps spam button.

Most people use 1 button to apply dps pressure. The game kinda makes it that way with limiting players to 10 buttons.

I generally use bow/2h.
Generally my back bar is Shuffle (dodge buff), Vigor (heal), Shadowy Disguise (stealth/invis), Poison Injection (ranged dot), Piercing Mark or Relentless Focus (buff).
My front bar is Rally (heal/buff), Aspect of Terror (fear), Stampede (gap closer), Surprise Attack (dps spam), Executioner (finisher).

You really just don't have room for multiple dps buttons without gimping yourself in healing/utility.

mcurley

If you use DD skills for dps it's not typically a good idea to use more than 1 (there are a few DD skills with built in utility that are exceptions).

But if you like DoT skills ... then it becomes the more the merrier.

I rotate a handful of DoT skills on my mDK and I find that I have more time to focus on staying alive since I don't have to constantly pump out a medium attack + DD skill to keep the pressure up.

So the game really doesn't make you choose one damage skill... 10 buttons is plenty and you certainly don't need to have 9 skills for buffs/utility/heals.

Mjollo

I animation cancel/weave. Does that count?

kit_sune

Defialed wrote: »

I animation cancel/weave. Does that count?

reported for using macros

vamp_emily

Be kind to your friends.

If you see me dancing on your dead body, don't whisper your friend and tell him to attack me. There is a good chance he will die, unless you have more then 1 attack me at once.

Just a friendly reminder from Emily.

kit_sune

vamp_emily wrote: »

Be kind to your friends.

If you see me dancing on your dead body, don't whisper your friend and tell him to attack me. There is a good chance he will die, unless you have more then 1 attack me at once.

Just a friendly reminder from Emily.

If I see you dance on my friends body: I will kill you. Unless there are 5 people with you

With love,
Fox

vamp_emily

skepticalfox wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Be kind to your friends.

If you see me dancing on your dead body, don't whisper your friend and tell him to attack me. There is a good chance he will die, unless you have more then 1 attack me at once.

Just a friendly reminder from Emily.

If I see you dance on my friends body: I will kill you. Unless there are 5 people with you

With love,
Fox

I knew I would wake someone up I was thinking to NA PC BWB thread was frozen.

W0lf_z13

@skepticalfox most of the time at least i will be around her whether or not im visible is another story

ŞσƦѦ

mcurley wrote: »

So the game really doesn't make you choose one damage skill... 10 buttons is plenty and you certainly don't need to have 9 skills for buffs/utility/heals.

It certainly does for a vast majority of builds. Yes you could use more than 1 depending on your build. You could slot 10 if you wanted, sure. That doesn't mean you can effectively play a build that way.

Dodge buff, fear, stealth/invis, damage buff/heal over time, heal, damage buff or way to counter stealthed players, dot, dd, gap closer, finisher.

Why would you ever drop any of them for another attack? What attack would you even need? Another dot? You already have the damage with weaving light-heavy attacks and bash (if you want) with your 1 dd and your dot to keep constant damage.

This game most certainly does make you choose one spam button for a large majority of builds if you want to be as effective as possible (not to mention you will always find many templars in open world who will be running ritual and cleansing your dots if you run multiple dots).

kit_sune

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

@skepticalfox most of the time at least i will be around her whether or not im visible is another story

Cool! I love threesomes!