@pcar944I love sap tank builds, I want to make one so bad, but I don't want to re-level and re-undaunt-9 and then get all the shards again
my NB right now is a High Elf DD Magblade, could I use her as a Tank? I have 374/381 skyshards with a lot of major skills/passives already taken, I already have a bunch of gear you listed as it is, is it possible?
thanks
I have a solid build too. But I am looking to swap baharas with bloodthorn touch. Just need a heavy Grothdarr shoulder before I can run it. More damage and more sustain. For pledges I honestly don't need 28k health, so with that swap things should get down a bit quicker.
I have my altmer NB set up like this.
I love this build. If I can ever get bahrahas weapon and shield it will be perfect.
Now using leeching weapon and shield. Though I will really miss it when my shield no longer insults me.
phreatophile wrote: »I have my altmer NB set up like this.
I love this build. If I can ever get bahrahas weapon and shield it will be perfect.
Now using leeching weapon and shield. Though I will really miss it when my shield no longer insults me.
Also running Altmer NB. Working great. Still 2 pieces short of this build. Well, 2.5 if you count that un-enchantable mouthy shield. While I farm the pieces I've been running 5 Bahraha's, 2 Malubeth, and 5 Spectre's.
I have my altmer NB set up like this.
I love this build. If I can ever get bahrahas weapon and shield it will be perfect.
Now using leeching weapon and shield. Though I will really miss it when my shield no longer insults me.
Also, I'm using Lord Warden's monster set for more resist. Procs like crazy unlike Malubeths.
Gilliam, what would you swap around to take this toon into pvpland?
I wonder if they plan to fix BC jewelry not dropping in purple?
Also I'm kinda worried about the next patch and what they do to resolve the proc set issue in pvp. I don't think I can sap enough to keep myself up without the proc sets.
I wonder if they plan to fix BC jewelry not dropping in purple?
SolarCat02 wrote: »You also have the option of using Leeching jewelry now, as well, if the color matters that much to you. Although I think Healthy is the only option for those?
Just wanted to drop a note thanking you for the build. The build is unbelievably fun and is the perfect tank for PUGs. The setup seems to be inspired by the sets but I really appreciate that you still built it around the skills. I've tweaked it to my play style and occasionally throw on an ice staff to mix it up and be more aggressive when I have a good healer.
I also switched to the unique leeching shield that drops as the ICP quest reward because it looks badass and they finally fixed it with the Homestead patch. Did you know the shield has unique Lord Warden voice lines that play occasionally while equipped and even change based on if you are in the the dungeon or not? Made that grind a little more satisfying
Spidersnacks wrote: »I've been using the build for a few days now and I enjoy it a lot. I have 2 malubeth, 5 leeching, and 5 bahraha's because I got lucky with shields and weapons, but they aren't optimal. I don't have the money to afford prismatic enchants and don't want to waste them on non-optimal gear pieces. I'm hovering around 20-21k health unbuffed and I feel like that''s sort of low for a tank?
What should I be looking for before I start tanking vets gear wise?
Also, as someone new to the game and tanking in ESO in general, how do I balance taunting, blocking, and using abilities like sap essence?
Spidersnacks wrote: »I've been using the build for a few days now and I enjoy it a lot. I have 2 malubeth, 5 leeching, and 5 bahraha's because I got lucky with shields and weapons, but they aren't optimal. I don't have the money to afford prismatic enchants and don't want to waste them on non-optimal gear pieces. I'm hovering around 20-21k health unbuffed and I feel like that''s sort of low for a tank?
What should I be looking for before I start tanking vets gear wise?
Also, as someone new to the game and tanking in ESO in general, how do I balance taunting, blocking, and using abilities like sap essence?
Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Spidersnacks wrote: »I've been using the build for a few days now and I enjoy it a lot. I have 2 malubeth, 5 leeching, and 5 bahraha's because I got lucky with shields and weapons, but they aren't optimal. I don't have the money to afford prismatic enchants and don't want to waste them on non-optimal gear pieces. I'm hovering around 20-21k health unbuffed and I feel like that''s sort of low for a tank?
What should I be looking for before I start tanking vets gear wise?
Also, as someone new to the game and tanking in ESO in general, how do I balance taunting, blocking, and using abilities like sap essence?
If you have that gear, then all Veteran Dungeons are easily within reach of your character stat wise. I'd suggest hitting about 25k with Food buffs + Attributes though.
Priority 1 as a tank is to taunt adds that deal a lot of damage. Little guys can be left until last to taunt, or remain untaunted. This game isn't about taunting every little thing and preventing any damage from hitting your allies- but it should be mitigated.
Priority 2 is your buffs and debuffs, ESPECIALLY if they benefit your party. That means things like Warhorn, Pierce Armor (to apply Major Fracture and Breach), Shades (for maim), and Refreshing Path/Sap (to heal) are all things you should be managing.
Priority 3 is your damage. The great thing about this build, is we aren't doing actions to DPS, but to heal. We get free damage for healing, so we don't really have a priority 3. Almost every single ability in your kit benefits your party, so as long as you work on Priority 1 and 2, you'll do great with this build.
Hey Gilliam,
I'm revisiting your guide to see your updates, perhaps learn a few things, etc. If I may, I'd suggest The Thief as a very good alternative Mundus selection. I'm not 100% positive it will synergize as well in your exact setup, but I wanted to throw it out there in the event it benefits someone. Based on what I can see here, it seems like a good fit considering the focus in damage and healing as a priority. I consider The Thief to be one of the most generous Mundus selections, as the potential benefit across the board in both damage and healing potential, while still only changing a single aspect of the build, is quite substantial relative to other Mundus options.
I've found that, in the case with magblades who are comfortable with weaving their light attacks to proc resource returns, magicka recovery can be quite low (in a lot of cases, people might consider it too low, but I run with 900 recovery even in vet trials). Ordinarily, this might mean that The Atronach is unnecessary, and running Divines traits may prove to be beneficial. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, as I suspect it's something you've considered before. My initial thoughts are that foregoing this recovery would be detrimental to the build, as you are clearly accommodating more damage and healing in this setup than in a traditional setup, and as such a higher recovery might be necessary. You would know better in this setup, so I'm all ears.
As always, thanks for sharing!
P.S. I enjoyed your broom&bucket vMA run!
Hi Gilliamtherogue!
Thanks for updating your build. A couple of questions tho.
I'm turning my magblade to tank and I'm starting to gather the items for him. Your optimal armor says Leeching and Bahraha's Curse. But how would this build work with Ebon Armory or Tava's Favor instead of Leeching? Or even Seducer?
Thanks in advance,
Ranaceleb
Gilliamtherogue wrote: »Hey Gilliam,
I'm revisiting your guide to see your updates, perhaps learn a few things, etc. If I may, I'd suggest The Thief as a very good alternative Mundus selection. I'm not 100% positive it will synergize as well in your exact setup, but I wanted to throw it out there in the event it benefits someone. Based on what I can see here, it seems like a good fit considering the focus in damage and healing as a priority. I consider The Thief to be one of the most generous Mundus selections, as the potential benefit across the board in both damage and healing potential, while still only changing a single aspect of the build, is quite substantial relative to other Mundus options.
I've found that, in the case with magblades who are comfortable with weaving their light attacks to proc resource returns, magicka recovery can be quite low (in a lot of cases, people might consider it too low, but I run with 900 recovery even in vet trials). Ordinarily, this might mean that The Atronach is unnecessary, and running Divines traits may prove to be beneficial. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, as I suspect it's something you've considered before. My initial thoughts are that foregoing this recovery would be detrimental to the build, as you are clearly accommodating more damage and healing in this setup than in a traditional setup, and as such a higher recovery might be necessary. You would know better in this setup, so I'm all ears.
As always, thanks for sharing!
P.S. I enjoyed your broom&bucket vMA run!
I used to run Thief with the build back when proc sets could crit. Since that's no longer the case I went with Ritual for maximum healing. Thief still does well with the build, as any build, but I prefer Ritual for this setup.