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Toppling Charge 2.3.3

  • david.haypreub18_ESO
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    SirDopey wrote: »
    Too be fair the patch notes only mentioned improving the ability lock bug that occurs after using TC, from your video this is the "path routing" bug isn't it?

    I was going to make the same point. Is the Global Cool Down gone in the skill? That at least would be partial progress.
    Templars are 'just slower... by design'
    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
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  • bikerangelo
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    SirDopey wrote: »
    Too be fair the patch notes only mentioned improving the ability lock bug that occurs after using TC, from your video this is the "path routing" bug isn't it?

    I was going to make the same point. Is the Global Cool Down gone in the skill? That at least would be partial progress.

    The GCD is still present.
  • AfkNinja
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    The GCD is still present.

    Sigh.

    Just Templar Things.

    /thread or should I say /templar
  • silky_soft
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    Haha looks like you got the ambush bug
    Haha block, ha rip.
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  • LilyOra
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    OMG that broken sound it makes haunts me D: I hate this bug so much, it itchy trigger fingers my rage.

    But I DO find it funny the times it actually does go off, how my little Breton goes on some sort of magical roller coaster ride around the rock or whatever is in the way of me and le baddie >:D
  • Ashamray
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    I'm screaming like an angry hungry pig.
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  • Jura23
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    They never said you could use TC reliably after this fix. They said only: "Made further improvements to this ability and its morphs to prevent you from getting locked out of using other abilities."

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  • WolfingHour
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    So... Hummm... At least they are consistent?
  • Rudyard
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    Here's the thing: I'd like to play around with a clever alchemist build, but I don't dare, as I'll need to save my potions to get me out of the toppling charge skill lock.
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  • Vyle_Byte
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    More and more I think ZOS just wants to bury this class. Idk anymore if its bc they cant fix, or simply wont fix.

    Really thinking wont, bc if they just couldn't fix it you would think they would work on replacing it. So, maybe they don't want us playing templars.

    Seems pretty obvious to me with all the changes and Wrobels "dream" for them the people at ZOS don't give 2 craps about templars or their customer base that plays/loves them.

    Dare you to prove me wrong ZOS. Double dog dare you.
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  • timidobserver
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    You gotta take what you can get. The GCD is completely gone now as far as I can tell. I can initiate a bar swap before the focused charge animation completes and my skill bar is never locked. If they fix the pathing issue it will be golden.
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  • SirDopey
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    SirDopey wrote: »
    Too be fair the patch notes only mentioned improving the ability lock bug that occurs after using TC, from your video this is the "path routing" bug isn't it?

    I was going to make the same point. Is the Global Cool Down gone in the skill? That at least would be partial progress.

    I may be massively off the mark here but I thought ZOS said the GCD was intended and as such it wouldn't be getting removed????
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  • Mumyo
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    SirDopey wrote: »
    SirDopey wrote: »
    Too be fair the patch notes only mentioned improving the ability lock bug that occurs after using TC, from your video this is the "path routing" bug isn't it?

    I was going to make the same point. Is the Global Cool Down gone in the skill? That at least would be partial progress.

    I may be massively off the mark here but I thought ZOS said the GCD was intended and as such it wouldn't be getting removed????

    In the past they also said its not intended, it was not intended untill they couldnt fix it. Now its intended of course xD
    This is so hillarious. One big masterpiece for how not to program.
    Edited by Mumyo on February 23, 2016 12:01AM
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Rudyard wrote: »
    Here's the thing: I'd like to play around with a clever alchemist build, but I don't dare, as I'll need to save my potions to get me out of the toppling charge skill lock.

    This is a fair point. If I go to buy a car and the seller says "Well its got a functioning carburetor but the car has no alternator" I'm not going to feel like I'm getting a functioning vehicle am I? At least if I were buying this clunker, I would have the option to throw money at it and get it working. We can't do that with Toppling Charge/Templar.
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  • ColoursYouHave
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    Kilandros wrote: »
    Yeah I think I'm done with this game. The Developers are amateurs who don't give a flying ***. Seriously, this is *** unbelievable.

    Can I have your stuff?


    On a more serious note, looks like my Templar will still be sticking with Invasion to close gaps this next update.
  • david.haypreub18_ESO
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    Mumyo wrote: »
    SirDopey wrote: »
    SirDopey wrote: »
    Too be fair the patch notes only mentioned improving the ability lock bug that occurs after using TC, from your video this is the "path routing" bug isn't it?

    I was going to make the same point. Is the Global Cool Down gone in the skill? That at least would be partial progress.

    I may be massively off the mark here but I thought ZOS said the GCD was intended and as such it wouldn't be getting removed????

    In the past they also said its not intended, it was not intended untill they couldnt fix it. Now its intended of course xD
    This is so hillarious. One big masterpiece for how not to program.

    The 2.3.3 patch notes say:

    '•Focused Charge: Made further improvements to this ability and its morphs to prevent you from getting locked out of using other abilities.'

    Now, that could apply to the GCD, as it locks you out of using other abilities; it also could apply just to the charge bug that using a potion fixes. Which is it? They will never clarify, because that would mean they would then have to acknowledge the GCD issue or claim it as a feature and take the heat. And since they're not willing to fix the GCD, they won't do that.

    Further evidence: look at the way Gina responded when a Templar asked if Toppling Charge was now fixed for good:

    'We've made improvements to Toppling Charge so it should be a lot better than it was, but there are still a couple small outstanding issues we need to address with it.'

    Well, I wouldn't say those issues I see on the video in this thread are 'small' issues at all. I guess for Templars they are, considering that we are the weakest class in PvP; for any other class these 'small' issues would get hotfixes and developers coming on the boards to apologize within hours. For Templars, on the other hand, these issues are just minimized to 'small' status, and no ETA for any fixes will be given.

    Welcome to life as a Templar.

    Templars are 'just slower... by design'
    Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
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  • silky_soft
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    They created a worm hole with this code

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    Haha block, ha rip.
    Here $15, goat mount please. Not paying 45 : lol :
    Netch is free with a cleanse and free magika. You nerf siphon into the ground. Nice balance team.
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