A better option to fix shield stacking

ShalidorsHeir

k sry failed to get the last part of it -> but then everyone would have another reason to cry about sorcs :P for mana and for stamina sorcs --> but stamina sorc would be at its finest with a shield based on stamina - comparing to crit surge as 'i get heal by dealing dmg' this would be an awesome alternate healing for sorcs if you could deal dmg crits on shields! and then @Defilted pve would be the same, cuz npcs cant crit on shields --> PROBLEM SOLVED: @ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel

ofc dmg crits on shields should NOT deal 50% extra dmg but 20% would be enough i think (maybe less cuz there are only the crit reactives needed) and we need a small buff on power surge (or what ever this skill is called in english)

so we got:
1. players "can" break shields cuz they can crit on it and thats fine cuz
2. sorcs got an alternate defense / healing that works on other shields too and the crits are not that overpowered cuz they are reduced on shields ... but they exist and surge is more buffed than now
3. PvE is not affected by any nerf cuz NPCs cant crit ... ordinary
4. stamina sorc would be awesome too at the end cuz there is a stamina based ward and their most important heal does work everytime

Xeven

You guys are so dense it's unreal. If you shoved a lump of coal up your ass, in a week you'd have a diamond.

"I don't know how to set up burst combo to down a 10k shield"
"I don't want to wear one of the best overall stam sets in the game, Shield Breaker"
"I don't want to put 50 CP into Shattering Blows and gain an easy 16% damage vs shields"
"Nerf Sorc"

ShalidorsHeir

If u shoved your arguments up your ass you'd have even more sh*t in your sh*t

What i wrote is not about nerfing sorcs but its about to split up the sorc defense from only shield to shield + alternate defense (in this exmaple its surge) as all other classes work too. Btw. im playing mana sorc since f****** beta, so i wont see a nerfed sorc class in ESO. And you shield breaker f*g*ts are the result of crying about sorcs. SO DONT WRITE ABOUT PLAYERS ARE NOT ABLE TO KILL SORCS. without shield breaker you guys were still fu***** up congratulations

at least you made a good point about the dumb behavior of the crying players

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO

Lava_Croft wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

NativeJoe wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Digiman wrote: »

The problem with this is that sorcerers will die much faster if shields are weakened. Especially when they are already cut in half.

I like the fact that bleeds and crits now effect them because it applies pressure and would add leeway to adjusting their potency in cyrodiil.

The problem is that if the sorcerers survivability or damage isn't address then no one will play with it if they keep dying like they did when they marred the armor system.

Say what you like about shield stacking, but without it sorcerers would be nothing.

I disagree. The champion system has always allowed you to strengthen any ward against magic, elemental and dot damage by investing in Hardy and Elemental Defender and Thick skinned. Hardy is being changed in the next patch to reduce physical damage and Elemental Defender is gaining magic defence. So sorcs will have the option to strengthen their hardened ward by upto 25% against physical, elemental, magic and dot damage. I currently have 27cp each in hardy and elemental defender for 10% reduced damage, and 10cp in thick skinned for 5% reduced damage. This is on top of my 77cp in bastion for 20% increased strength to shields. I only have 450cp but I seem to have enough to spend in the right places to make my one ward tough enough to give me thinking time.

It's also possible to tank up a bit underneath your ward so that when your ward gets broken you can take more hits giving you more time to recast your ward. Some heavy armour, impen, boundless storm and defensive rune help with this. The major ward and major resolve from boundless storm counter the major breach and major fracture debuffs that certain skills inflict, meaning any armour investment you make only has to deal with penetration. Defensive rune pauses any single incoming damage for as much time as it takes for them to cc break. Defensive rune can be spammed as much as hardened ward. And those cp investments into hardy etc also help you when your ward is down. All of this buys you plenty of time to recast hardened ward. Sorcs are far from nothing without shield stacking, it's a shame most think that they are.

Do you even have a sorc? Shields DONT gain resists... ever. from anything. They always take full damage.

Sorcerers are by far the most delusional class in Cyrodiil, constantly thinking they are weak while in essence there's no class that combines tankiness, mobility and burst damage into a single class as much as the Sorcerer does. I highly expect them to be hit by a decent (shield) nerf bat sooner or later.

It's the only thing sorcs got to defend themselves though. Shall we just take away all the defense of all classes in cyro so that whoever hits the other first wins? As that's what you want with sorcs.

Magicka Sorcerers just need to be brought in line with the rest of the Magicka builds and Stamina Sorcerers do just fine without stacking shields and without having access the Restoration Staff and Annulment.

Magicka sorcerers are in line atm, they don't need any nerfs to hardened ward, all that's needed is shield stacking fixed. Would it be fine to have a 1.5 sec interruptable cast time on breath of life, cloak, flappy wings etc too then? As that's what you're asking for. Besides, shield breaker would do the job for you if you just decided to use it.

Xeven

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Magicka Sorcerers just need to be brought in line with the rest of the Magicka builds and Stamina Sorcerers do just fine without stacking shields and without having access the Restoration Staff and Annulment.

Dodge roll, block, vigor, rally, shuffle, impen, crit resist cp, hardy, elemental defender, spell resistance, physical resistance, medium armor passives, sprint, maneuvers, reflect, major ward, minor ward, stunning silencing gap closers, reverberating bash, heroic slash, steel tornado...

Should I go on?

Come play on Haderus sweetheart. I love it when you hate MagiSorcs. I have some teabags for you.